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brzzz 07-11-2012 11:08 AM

Subaru warranties
 
Does anyone have any experience with subaru warranties or zurich warranties? I am picking up my car this weekend at grand subaru in bensenville il and I am considering the extended warranty. Im looking for some feedback, experiences, whether they are good or bad. Thank you.

dsgerbc 07-11-2012 11:16 AM

You can buy Subaru ext. warranty at any point between now and when you hit 36k/3yrs (for Gold one). No reason to rush other than to lock-in the price.

Stu baru 07-11-2012 11:49 AM

I've driven Subaru's for decades and never used the extended warranties. Going with one is, in essence, betting you will have a major mechanical problem within 100K. I've run many cars well past that and have never had anything major happen in the first 100K. Now, if you don't take care of your car...

DantKR 07-11-2012 11:54 AM

Problem is that this also has a lot of new tech in it. I'm more worried about something electrical failing than I am mechanical.

ranisron 07-11-2012 12:00 PM

How was your dealing with Grand Subaru in Bensenville? MSRP or you had to pay a market value markup?

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Originally Posted by brzzz (Post 308448)
Does anyone have any experience with subaru warranties or zurich warranties? I am picking up my car this weekend at grand subaru in bensenville il and I am considering the extended warranty. Im looking for some feedback, experiences, whether they are good or bad. Thank you.


brzzz 07-11-2012 12:35 PM

Msrp, car delivered in 5 weeks even though they said probably October. Super nice staff. No issues. 500 refundable deposi

ranisron 07-11-2012 12:42 PM

Thanks for the info Brzzz, enjoy your new BRZ :)

slizoth 07-11-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 308543)
Problem is that this also has a lot of new tech in it. I'm more worried about something electrical failing than I am mechanical.

The BRZ is actually remarkably simplified for a new car.

DantKR 07-11-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slizoth (Post 308833)
The BRZ is actually remarkably simplified for a new car.

Our 2010 and 2011 Subaru and Kia don't/didn't have dual zone ac, touch screen nav, adjustable head lights, and heated seats(Legacy did Soul doesn't).

slizoth 07-11-2012 08:03 PM

Fortunately all those electronic components are not necessary to drive the vehicle which is really what I was thinking about when I said that the BRZ is simplified for being a new car. Plus half those features are only on the Limited version.

dsgerbc 07-11-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu baru (Post 308532)
I've driven Subaru's for decades and never used the extended warranties. Going with one is, in essence, betting you will have a major mechanical problem within 100K. I've run many cars well past that and have never had anything major happen in the first 100K. Now, if you don't take care of your car...

Unlike cars in your signature BRZ has a highly-strung engine and lots of other unique parts. If I end up keeping it beyond basic warranty - I'll get the Subaru Gold Plus extended warranty.

Bfly 07-11-2012 08:26 PM

I was considering getting the 7 yr extended warranty but my dealer explained to me that if you buy the warranty the day you buy your car it starts on that date rather than starting after your manufacture's 3 yr warranty is up. So as I see it, you are getting screwed out of 3 years to your extended warranty. However, I do plan to get the T.W.D.D. (Tires, Wheels, Dents, Dings) program that my dealer is offering. It covers any damages to the tires or wheels and will replace them on the spot as well as fix any door dings ($0 deductible). I've never owned a Subaru, but I have done my research and they seem to be realiable cars. Good luck with you purchase!

Enilder 07-11-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bfly (Post 309520)
I was considering getting the 7 yr extended warranty but my dealer explained to me that if you buy the warranty the day you buy your car it starts on that date rather than starting after your manufacture's 3 yr warranty is up. So as I see it, you are getting screwed out of 3 years to your extended warranty. However, I do plan to get the T.W.D.D. (Tires, Wheels, Dents, Dings) program that my dealer is offering. It covers any damages to the tires or wheels and will replace them on the spot as well as fix any door dings ($0 deductible). I've never owned a Subaru, but I have done my research and they seem to be realiable cars. Good luck with you purchase!

...or you can just think of that as 4-yr extended warranty. No one is screwing anyone over. Do simple math to figure out if it's worth it or not. Most of the time, it's not worth it.

dsgerbc 07-11-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bfly (Post 309520)
I was considering getting the 7 yr extended warranty but my dealer explained to me that if you buy the warranty the day you buy your car it starts on that date rather than starting after your manufacture's 3 yr warranty is up.

Huh? I'm fairly certain there's nothing it covers before basic warranty is up. It's just years/mileage limits in the contract are relative to when the vehicle was new.
That said - tomorrow I'm gonna have the dealer appraise my other Subaru and I'm gonna ask what kind of refund I'll get on my current gold plan. If it's based on the whole 7 years - I'll post here. I expect it to be based only on the 4 years not covered by basic warranty.

dsgerbc 07-11-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Enilder (Post 309527)
Do simple math to figure out if it's worth it or not. Most of the time, it's not worth it.

I tend to think that the gold plan is worth it on the recent turbo Subarus except for the Forester, which is considerably de-tuned hence buying some safety margin. Those turbo Subarus, however, were blowing engines left and right, right from the start.
Reliability of the BRZ is yet to be determined.

Indestruct 07-11-2012 08:40 PM

I bought the 7/70 warranty, it's transferrable and backed from SOA. Also you can cancel and get a prorata refund. I would generally say no to a warranty, but I'm risk averse on this large purchase. I plan to get the next gen brz before my extended warranty is up.

Bfly 07-11-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 309541)
Huh? I'm fairly certain there's nothing it covers before basic warranty is up. It's just years/mileage limits in the contract are relative to when the vehicle was new.
That said - tomorrow I'm gonna have the dealer appraise my other Subaru and I'm gonna ask what kind of refund I'll get on my current gold plan. If it's based on the whole 7 years - I'll post here. I expect it to be based only on the 4 years not covered by basic warranty.

According to my dealer, the extended warranty covers some things that the manufacturer's warranty doesn't cover.

dsgerbc 07-11-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bfly (Post 309552)
According to my dealer, the extended warranty covers some things that the manufacturer's warranty doesn't cover.

For example?

DantKR 07-11-2012 09:11 PM

Aren't normal warranties just engine and drive train?

Bfly 07-12-2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 309563)
For example?

I'm not sure off the top of my head right now. I'll have to call him to clarify.

#87 07-12-2012 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 309546)
I tend to think that the gold plan is worth it on the recent turbo Subarus except for the Forester, which is considerably de-tuned hence buying some safety margin. Those turbo Subarus, however, were blowing engines left and right, right from the start.
Reliability of the BRZ is yet to be determined.

My dealer was trying to sell me the extended warranty and pulled out a blown turbo from under his desk saying how it was like a 6000 repair for blown turbo. I asked him with a huge shit eating grin if my car had a turbo.

Oriental Life 07-12-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu baru (Post 308532)
I've driven Subaru's for decades and never used the extended warranties. Going with one is, in essence, betting you will have a major mechanical problem within 100K. I've run many cars well past that and have never had anything major happen in the first 100K. Now, if you don't take care of your car...

^ This. Every word.

Oriental Life 07-12-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 308889)
Our 2010 and 2011 Subaru and Kia don't/didn't have dual zone ac, touch screen nav, adjustable head lights, and heated seats(Legacy did Soul doesn't).

None of which are high-tech or new to the world. If by 30K car will be giving any problems (30K - first major service), then and only then it makes sense to look into extended warranties. Or to consider an upgrade, which I don't think will be necessary.

Realistically, the only major f-up so far was high pressure fuel pump being noisy for some when used with 10% ethanol (US) gasoline. Toyota-Subie should take care of it.

wallace03 07-12-2012 01:34 AM

this is kind of off topic, but does the floor mats come with the car or do they charge extra for it?

fistpoint 07-12-2012 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wallace03 (Post 310156)
this is kind of off topic, but does the floor mats come with the car or do they charge extra for it?

They are standard equipment. That does NOT include the trunk mat though, which you can buy online for much cheaper.

DantKR 07-12-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriental Life (Post 310126)
None of which are high-tech or new to the world. If by 30K car will be giving any problems (30K - first major service), then and only then it makes sense to look into extended warranties. Or to consider an upgrade, which I don't think will be necessary.

Realistically, the only major f-up so far was high pressure fuel pump being noisy for some when used with 10% ethanol (US) gasoline. Toyota-Subie should take care of it.

It's not high tech but we have no idea how long they'll last. And not being high tech doesn't mean it won't cost a boat load of cash to fix if need be.

brzzz 07-12-2012 10:36 AM

If they offer me a good price for the warranty, I think I'll take it. New motor with probably expensive parts. I liked to do my own work on my cars when I was in school, but with a new full time job I have to evaluate how much my time is worth. It may pay off to have the dealer do warranty work rather than take off time from work to fix something. Also this will be my daily driver and the warranty provides a loaner vehicle if I need it when my car is being serviced.

dsgerbc 07-12-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by brzzz (Post 310697)
Also this will be my daily driver and the warranty provides a loaner vehicle if I need it when my car is being serviced.

That might be the part of ext. coverage not covered by basic warranty. Unless Subaru recently decided to mandate loaners for all their dealers. This used to be voluntary and not many dealers participated.

slizoth 07-12-2012 12:43 PM

Getting an extended warranty on my Motorcycle was a total waste of money and I think everyone should avoid getting an extended warranty on a quality vehicle that is purchased directly from a reliable manufacturer. If and when the costs come up, you can just pay for it out of pocket. As long as you stay on top of your maintenance and dont let problems snowball, it won't cost you more than the warranty does.

DeeezNuuuts83 07-12-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bfly (Post 310023)
I'm not sure off the top of my head right now. I'll have to call him to clarify.

If you can't remember a single thing, then I'm sure it was just a sales pitch. But I'd love to be proven wrong about that, so let us know if it ends up being extremely comprehensive.

xjohnx 07-12-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83 (Post 311211)
If you can't remember a single thing, then I'm sure it was just a sales pitch. But I'd love to be proven wrong about that, so let us know if it ends up being extremely comprehensive.

http://www.subaru.com/owners/resourc...ity/index.html

click contract comparisons.

DeeezNuuuts83 07-12-2012 03:42 PM

It seems pretty good, but this is more of an "extended service contract" rather than it just being an extended warranty, which makes sense then if it covers additional stuff.

But what it was comparing was the Subaru product versus similar products not offered by Subaru (which typically aren't going to be as good), not the "extended" product against the standard Subaru warranty.

Oriental Life 07-13-2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 310541)
It's not high tech but we have no idea how long they'll last. And not being high tech doesn't mean it won't cost a boat load of cash to fix if need be.

Which, if its going to be the case, will be coverd by manufacture warranty and/or will be reported here, given the numbe of users. Extended warranties don't bring extra coverage to the existing manufacture warranty, unless you buy specific, like dents and wheel protection, for example.

But if people want peace of mind, let them spend hard earned money. I used to do the same thing, but after I never used those warranties, or they didn't cover parts requirung maintenance, I now put money into the bank.

dsgerbc 07-13-2012 01:41 PM

Well, a case in point. Took my legacy in yesterday, cause the rear diff was 'wet' with oil for a while. They said the the air vent in the diff was a bit plugged, leading to a bit of excess pressure, probably resulting in an occasional mist of oil from the vent.
Somehow that itsn't covered by either Gold Plus or the powertrain warranty.

DeeezNuuuts83 07-13-2012 03:19 PM

Has your vehicle been properly maintained? I'd assume that the service plans/powertrain warranty would still require you to have followed the required maintenance before they did anything.


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