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MechanicallyChallenged 11-22-2016 06:47 PM

FRS Aftermarket intake question
 
Hey guys, first post, so here goes.
To make a long story short, got my car first FRS from a dealership recently. It had an aftermarket intake that made my check engine light on.
Took it to get diagnosed and they said both banks are running rich and it is throwing off the mass air flow sensor.
I have pictures of the intake that i'll try to post as soon as I can. It also has an electric fan in the intake piping if that means anything.
My poor googling skills made me come across this forums and something called unichip. Just wondering if using something like that will allow me to use the aftermarket intake without having to go back to stock.
Sorry about the long first post. Thanks guys.

Cole 11-22-2016 06:53 PM

Just use the stock intake with an aftermarket filter. Sell the aftermarket intake.

Do not ever buy a unichip, @guybo had tons of luck with his :lol::lol::lol:

Lonewolf 11-22-2016 07:05 PM

As Cole said, get a stock (oem) intake, get a drop-in air filter and sell that aftermarket intake.

*If you want more power...do not buy the unichip, there are way better tuning options out there like OpenFlash Tablet and Ecutek

***Better question is why a dealership sold you a car with an aftermarket intake that has been clearly throwing cels...

MechanicallyChallenged 11-22-2016 07:11 PM

Thank for the quick response guys! You guys know of a good website to order OEM parts? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first real dive into getting to know all the ins and outs of my baby. :D And I'll definitely check out that OpenFlash Tablet. Thanks again!
Edit:
@Lonewolf I'm partly to blame for not bringing someone more mechanically inclined with me when I made the purchase. They diagnosed it for free but wanted 700$ out of me for the parts and labor to take care of that issue.

mrg666 11-22-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2801978)
Thank for the quick response guys! You guys know of a good website to order OEM parts? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first real dive into getting to know all the ins and outs of my baby. :D And I'll definitely check out that OpenFlash Tablet. Thanks again!
Edit:
@Lonewolf I'm partly to blame for not bringing someone more mechanically inclined with me when I made the purchase. They diagnosed it for free but wanted 700$ out of me for the parts and labor to take care of that issue.

Instead of OEM intake, you can install the TRD intake which is OEM as well. Installation of TRD intake could be easier (and cheaper) since we don't know how much of the sound generator was left in place.

Sapphireho 11-22-2016 07:24 PM

Why would you ever buy any car throwing codes?

Life lesson.

mrg666 11-22-2016 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 2801970)
As Cole said, get a stock (oem) intake, get a drop-in air filter and sell that aftermarket intake.

*If you want more power...do not buy the unichip, there are way better tuning options out there like OpenFlash Tablet and Ecutek

***Better question is why a dealership sold you a car with an aftermarket intake that has been clearly throwing cels...

Are you seriously recommending someone OFT tune who is trying to return to OEM and resolve the error codes?

go_a_way1 11-22-2016 07:25 PM

Points for picking an appropriate username

Lonewolf 11-22-2016 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 2801985)
Are you seriously recommending someone OFT tune who is trying to return to OEM and resolve the error codes?

No, I said IF he wanted more power (via a real tuning solution with ability to take care of fault codes, not Unichip as he had mentioned) to go that route. Is that clear enough for you...jeeze

mrg666 11-22-2016 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 2802000)
No, I said IF he wanted more power (via a real tuning solution with ability to take care of fault codes, not Unichip as he had mentioned) to go that route. Is that clear enough for you...jeeze

Nobody asked for more power, wasn't that clear enough for you?

Lonewolf 11-22-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 2802012)
Nobody asked for more power, wasn't that clear enough for you?

Someone piss in your friskas, fella?

Tcoat 11-22-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 2802030)
Someone piss in your friskas, fella?

The irony of you two's avatars right now is astronomical!

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/image...ine=1476650154

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/image...ine=1336245428

KR-S 11-22-2016 08:52 PM

Here we see two natural enemies of the animal kingdom go at each other.

:lol:

Seriously guys, chill out.

KR-S 11-22-2016 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2802050)

Please have all my thanks! :laughabove:

Tcoat 11-22-2016 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 2801982)
Instead of OEM intake, you can install the TRD intake which is OEM as well. Installation of TRD intake could be easier (and cheaper) since we don't know how much of the sound generator was left in place.

Not sure how it would be "cheaper" really. TRD stuff costs. If they go with a stock intake they could pick one up from a wrecking yard and get the whole works or we can point them to the sound tube delete DIYs and they can just do that.

humfrz 11-22-2016 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2801986)
Points for picking an appropriate username

........like YOURS ........ :lol::lol::lol:



humfrz - jest ah messen wich ya.....:)

Summerwolf 11-22-2016 10:08 PM

I got a trd intake you could put on. Save you some money over dealer parts and still be "modded."

MechanicallyChallenged 11-23-2016 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 2801983)
Why would you ever buy any car throwing codes?

Life lesson.

Yeah lesson learned. At the time I test drove the car, the check engine light wasn't on. It was a couple days after that paperwork had already been processed to finance the car that it came on. Took it back to the same dealership and they pretty much just told me I was SOL but in a slightly nicer way.
Anyways guys. Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.

go_a_way1 11-23-2016 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2802065)
........like YOURS ........ :lol::lol::lol:



humfrz - jest ah messen wich ya.....:)

Hahahaha!! That backfired on me real quick :eyebulge:

steve99 11-23-2016 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2801959)
Hey guys, first post, so here goes.
To make a long story short, got my car first FRS from a dealership recently. It had an aftermarket intake that made my check engine light on.
Took it to get diagnosed and they said both banks are running rich and it is throwing off the mass air flow sensor.
I have pictures of the intake that i'll try to post as soon as I can. It also has an electric fan in the intake piping if that means anything.
My poor googling skills made me come across this forums and something called unichip. Just wondering if using something like that will allow me to use the aftermarket intake without having to go back to stock.
Sorry about the long first post. Thanks guys.




Hmmm it sound like its got the electric supercharger ?


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719


so it might already be "tuned"

Luftwaffel 11-23-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2801959)
It also has an electric fan in the intake piping if that means anything..

Uh... wat. Like a shitty eBay electric supercharger? How did that pass inspection at a dealer? Get rid of that shit right meow.

Tcoat 11-23-2016 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 2802290)
Hmmm it sound like its got the electric supercharger ?


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719


so it might already be "tuned"

Or one of these dumb ass things!


http://www.dhresource.com/0x0/f2/alb...X72uUEk732.jpg


https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1P9l4L...Filter-Fit.jpg


15HP for $75. This is how the car should have come from the factory!


3inch Universal Supercharger Magic Electric Fan Cold Air Intake Kit
Feature:
  • Works on any engines.
  • Adds more power on top of all existing modification.
  • It provides and increase of 1PSI to your intake.
  • Up to 15 more horsepower guaranteed.
  • Develop 5% HP gain througout the RPM range.
  • Safety draws over 833 watts from the battery wen activated at full-throttle.
  • All accessories are include
  • No instructions include
Packing Size:
  • Length:18cm
  • Width:16cm
  • Height:25cm
Packing Include:
  • 1×air filter.
  • 1× electric fan.
  • Exactly shown please look at the pictures blow.

Luftwaffel 11-23-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2802295)

This was the first thing that came to mind.

We need pictures.

MuseChaser 11-23-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2802163)
.. At the time I test drove the car, the check engine light wasn't on. It was a couple days after that paperwork had already been processed to finance the car that it came on. Took it back to the same dealership and they pretty much just told me I was SOL but in a slightly nicer way...

I don't understand this. If you bought it from a licensed dealership (Toyota, Subaru, Uncle Bob's House of Ill Repute and Used Cars, whatever,...) that car usually comes with SOME form of protection for at least the first 30 days.. usually 60 or 90 for newer model years. If the problem surfaced truly in a matter of days, I would still be nice, but a little firmer with the dealership. If that doesn't work (and don't let it escalate into a shouting match or hurtful argument), contact your state's DMV and/or your county's district attorney and find out what the law is where you are. They may offer to help.

Swapping out an intake isn't a real expensive or difficult proposition. I'm surprised the dealership isn't more willing to help you out, unless there's more to the problem, they already know about it, and don't want it become obvious to you. Start making some calls.

Barry

86Boyz 11-23-2016 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2802050)

I was thinking the exact same thing after looking at their avatars and reading their posts.

Summerwolf 11-23-2016 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2802311)
I don't understand this. If you bought it from a licensed dealership (Toyota, Subaru, Uncle Bob's House of Ill Repute and Used Cars, whatever,...) that car usually comes with SOME form of protection for at least the first 30 days.. usually 60 or 90 for newer model years. If the problem surfaced truly in a matter of days, I would still be nice, but a little firmer with the dealership. If that doesn't work (and don't let it escalate into a shouting match or hurtful argument), contact your state's DMV and/or your county's district attorney and find out what the law is where you are. They may offer to help.

Swapping out an intake isn't a real expensive or difficult proposition. I'm surprised the dealership isn't more willing to help you out, unless there's more to the problem, they already know about it, and don't want it become obvious to you. Start making some calls.

Barry



Probably "used car, bought as is" but they should definitely cover the engine lights. If it was found to be caused by something they sold with the vehicle....it could get muddy but I'm sure there is recourse for the purchaser.

KoolBRZ 11-23-2016 01:40 PM

What kind of electric fan? Post pics.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2801959)
Hey guys, first post, so here goes.
To make a long story short, got my car first FRS from a dealership recently. It had an aftermarket intake that made my check engine light on.
Took it to get diagnosed and they said both banks are running rich and it is throwing off the mass air flow sensor.
I have pictures of the intake that i'll try to post as soon as I can. It also has an electric fan in the intake piping if that means anything.
My poor googling skills made me come across this forums and something called unichip. Just wondering if using something like that will allow me to use the aftermarket intake without having to go back to stock.
Sorry about the long first post. Thanks guys.

Post pics before going any further! If that is a Phantom Electric Supercharger, (electric fan) it is worth upwards of $1500 used. If not, you'll be better off with a stock intake and an after-market filter.

SlammedSilly 11-23-2016 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2801978)
Thank for the quick response guys! You guys know of a good website to order OEM parts? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first real dive into getting to know all the ins and outs of my baby. :D And I'll definitely check out that OpenFlash Tablet. Thanks again!
Edit:
@Lonewolf I'm partly to blame for not bringing someone more mechanically inclined with me when I made the purchase. They diagnosed it for free but wanted 700$ out of me for the parts and labor to take care of that issue.

TOYOTAPARTSDEAL.COM that is the place to get all toyota oem stuffs

MechanicallyChallenged 11-24-2016 02:20 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here is a picture of the intake.
Attachment 146414

Probably unnecessary but here is a picture of the switch that turns on the electric fan inside the piping.
Attachment 146415

Edit:Sorry about weird formatting, tried to downsize the picture in paint. Also I'm going to talk to the salesperson at the dealership I went to and push a little harder again but still be nice about it.

Teseo 11-24-2016 03:01 PM

This site auto adjust size, my bet is a cheap ass ebay e supercharger

KoolBRZ 11-24-2016 03:09 PM

That's going to throw off the MAF compensation for sure. The electric fan isn't anything special. No telling what the fan vortices are doing to the MAF sensor just 12 inches away. I'd recommend pulling a stock intake from a junkyard car. Disconnect the battery, then install the stock intake. Reconnect the battery and drive. CEL should be gone and stay gone. Car will drive normally now, unless it has a tune.

steve99 11-24-2016 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2803050)
Here is a picture of the intake.
Attachment 146414

Probably unnecessary but here is a picture of the switch that turns on the electric fan inside the piping.
Attachment 146415

Edit:Sorry about weird formatting, tried to downsize the picture in paint. Also I'm going to talk to the salesperson at the dealership I went to and push a little harder again but still be nice about it.



Unfortunaty that intake is rubbish. Just bin it an put stock one back on, wreckers should have plenty of stock intakes.


The maf is way to close to throttle body and its likely different tube size and will just cause you problems even if you tried to "scale maf" with tuning.

Tcoat 11-24-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicallyChallenged (Post 2803050)
Here is a picture of the intake.
Attachment 146414

Probably unnecessary but here is a picture of the switch that turns on the electric fan inside the piping.
Attachment 146415

Edit:Sorry about weird formatting, tried to downsize the picture in paint. Also I'm going to talk to the salesperson at the dealership I went to and push a little harder again but still be nice about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2803063)
This site auto adjust size, my bet is a cheap ass ebay e supercharger

I called it back in post #22. In fact from the little bit of the fittings we can see it may be the very one I posted. Get that crap out of there it was nothing but somebody playing the "I have a supercharger" BS card. Not only messing with your sensors but sucking loads of nice hot air into the system as well. I normally defend dealers but that one should be flogged for selling you the car with that shit on it!!!!

MechanicallyChallenged 11-24-2016 05:20 PM

Thanks everyone for all the help and info. I really appreciate it guys!

Summerwolf 11-24-2016 07:08 PM

Lmk about that trd intake, replaces all that garbage and it is a factory backed part.

Lantana frs 11-24-2016 10:13 PM

Please throw that piece of shit out. Then continue to check vehicle for other signs of stupidity. You'll be fine. Lol


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