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matadormi5 04-06-2011 02:03 PM

2012 Subaru Impreza
 
http://www.insideline.com/subaru/imp...auto-show.html

Interesting. Shows a better idea of Subaru's new design direction.

I like it much better than the current one, which imo is way too bland.

OldSkoolToys 04-06-2011 02:45 PM

Really? That one looks just as bland as any other sedan.

Seriously they could've said "2012 Corolla" and I would've been none the wiser.

NESW20 04-06-2011 02:48 PM

i'd like to see the whole thing from various angles.

matadormi5 04-06-2011 02:50 PM

It's still dull, but there's at least some character in the lines (pronounced wheel arches etc.)

The current gen. is as flat as can be.

aliphian 04-06-2011 03:07 PM

Looks like a last gen Kia.

fernan2 04-06-2011 03:36 PM

Looks like a suzuki sx4.

Franisco 04-06-2011 03:56 PM

I have to agree. That looks pretty bland

Giccin 04-06-2011 05:45 PM

I saw it at the LA auto show. I'll post the picture up once I get home. It looks like a scion tC. :/

Exage 04-06-2011 06:46 PM

I think it will probably sell well, I like to judge a car once I've seen it in person but it looks ok so far. 36mpg hwy for an AWD car is in my books impressive even if it is from a CVT transmission (consider the jump for it's current base 2.5L of 27mpg hwy). I see it as good news that the FB20 is going global and will reached the North American market.

I'm actually looking forward to NY to see how the various cars that have been teased apart from the FT. It should be a good show!

MtnDrvr86 04-06-2011 09:26 PM

I kinda thought the same when I saw it, way to boring to be Subaru. Its no longer a funky, dare I say, ugly design. Just boring.

RRnold 04-06-2011 09:31 PM

I agree with the rest; very bland and boring like a current American sedan. :thumbdown:

Zaku 04-06-2011 11:25 PM

I was hoping it be like the concept that thing just screamed GTFO of my way Im bad ass ! but now... it's alittle... hmm... Im hoping the WRX and STI variant are much more aggressive and nice. I was thinking of the MPG is good and the FT86 bombed in both Subie and Toyota/Scion form I save for an Impreza WRX. But they get terrible MPG. But the 4wd is nice to have when I have to work in winter and it snows.

john 04-06-2011 11:37 PM

What ever happened to mean/aggressive looking Imprezas? In my opinion, Subaru has a done an exceptional job with their Impreza line up until 2008. Anyone know how the market numbers are for the 08-11 impreza's compared to the 02-03,04-05, and 06-07? If anyone can provide numbers of how much Subaru sold those years, that would be great. I'll assume that the 08-11 will have the least, considering they're getting more american, more heavy every year.

1GoZoom 04-07-2011 01:48 AM

eww. That is yucktacular. being the base model though, they want bland so it'll sell. I'm sure the racier specs will be much more aggressive.

Giccin 04-07-2011 03:12 AM

Well these the ones I were able to take. Although... every other photographer was towering over me and got the much better shots.. :<

Plus I was new with my camera then. :happy0180: Also sorry about the quality. Photobucket screwed it up. lol

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...o/IMG_0077.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...o/IMG_0079.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...o/IMG_0080.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...o/IMG_0082.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...o/IMG_0083.jpg


So tell me this doesn't look like a tC. LOL

NESW20 04-07-2011 03:51 AM

oh, that's the concept. the one just released (teased) is the production version, it seems.

fernan2 04-08-2011 05:01 PM

new spy shot.
 
Spy shot! but i have to say, that my hart is officially broken!:brokenheart:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/08/s...hows-its-face/

4agze 04-08-2011 05:06 PM

Wow This design is worst than the bug eye

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/08/s...hows-its-face/

ichitaka05 04-08-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 33107)
Wow This design is worst than the bug eye

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/08/s...hows-its-face/

Is it just me or that new design looks like one of Dodge car

john 04-08-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 33114)
Is it just me or that new design looks like one of Dodge car

I think you're right. I just can't put my head on what American car it is..:iono:

Sea1monkey2 04-08-2011 06:18 PM

is it a stretch to say chevy inspired the front http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/i...t_03_large.jpg

RRnold 04-08-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernan2 (Post 33105)
Spy shot! but i have to say, that my hart is officially broken!:brokenheart:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/08/s...hows-its-face/

They went from a decent concept to this ugly rental-looking car! :thumbdown: Makes me wonder how the MKII concept will develop into a spy shot production car...

zigzagz94 04-08-2011 07:24 PM

Reminds me of a 4 door chevy cruze and I don't like it at all.

It will probably sell like hot cakes though because most people like boring vanilla designs that's why camry's, accords, etc sell so many vehicles. Since subaru has gone down this boring design path with their current line-up they have the largest market share in the U.S. ever in their history. Don't see them changing directions any time soon.

Not holding out hope for this current design team to magically make a good looking FT-86II clone.

4agze 04-08-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 33114)
Is it just me or that new design looks like one of Dodge car

your a subaru guy what you think?

ichitaka05 04-08-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 33138)
your a subaru guy what you think?

After Subaru stop making coupe (first gen), it's been failure to me :bellyroll:

But seriously, it's a disappointment. Not sure if they gonna do sedan only or gonna bring out hatch, but so far, so bad... BUT it's not a STI, that pic is only 2.5i (NA ver), so not sure what & how they gonna do STI ver.

Franisco 04-08-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4agze (Post 33107)
Wow This design is worst than the bug eye

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/08/s...hows-its-face/

The bug eye always takes so much crap..I never thought it was that bad

Dimman 04-08-2011 09:34 PM

Weak. The four spare tires don't help either. I'm trying to imagine it as an STI, all flared out with a huge wing and 300+ hp, but not succeeding...

4agze 04-08-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franisco (Post 33148)
The bug eye always takes so much crap..I never thought it was that bad

lol i knew someone will react on that, my brother loves the bug eye also, he almost got one with a 2004 STI motor but i guess its just looks but for performance wise its good. yeah the bug eye bugged me lol

fernan2 04-11-2011 07:43 AM

maybe the WRX/STI versions wont have those ugly looking side mirrors! those are the biggest problem for this car right now, ohh and the cheap looking tail lights.

matadormi5 04-12-2011 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 33147)
After Subaru stop making coupe (first gen), it's been failure to me :bellyroll:

I so want a modern day Impreza coupe, especially in a WRX/STI form. Why they stopped is beyond me, the 2.5rs coupe was great looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franisco (Post 33148)
The bug eye always takes so much crap..I never thought it was that bad

Of the sedans, the bug-eye is the top of my list (tied with the blob-eye/tear-drop). That being said, I absolutely hate the "hawk eye"

ichitaka05 04-13-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matadormi5 (Post 33412)
I so want a modern day Impreza coupe, especially in a WRX/STI form. Why they stopped is beyond me, the 2.5rs coupe was great looking.

Modern Impreza coupe? Like this?
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...ed-1copy-2.jpg



Quote:

Originally Posted by matadormi5 (Post 33412)
Of the sedans, the bug-eye is the top of my list (tied with the blob-eye/tear-drop). That being said, I absolutely hate the "hawk eye"

Hm... only design I don't really care for is bulb eye ver. Maybe cuz I have seen more bulb eye ver more than hawk eye ver.

Want.FR-S 04-13-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 33114)
Is it just me or that new design looks like one of Dodge car

Quote:

Originally Posted by john (Post 33115)
I think you're right. I just can't put my head on what American car it is..:iono:

Dodge Magnum? or Caliber without the hatch?

To me, the side profile looks like Mazda 3, especially the rear door. I have to agree, this styling is just bland like anyone else.

Dragonitti 04-13-2011 05:55 PM

I fell asleep looking at those pics.

fernan2 08-06-2011 08:57 PM

2012 impreza info. (from nasioc)
 
and some subaru coupe info.
EDIT: i COPY PASTED THIS STORY !!!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/imag...n_standard.gif Drove the 2012 Impreza.
I just got back from the 2011 Subaru National Business conference. Yesterday I did a ride-and-drive of the 2012 Impreza. My thoughts::

Background: I'm a long time auto enthusiast and experienced autocrosser. My daily driver is a 2006 WRX and my wife drives a 2008 2.5i premium sedan so I have quite a bit of perspective on the last two previous generation Imprezas. This ride-and-drive was held in a large parking lot and consisted of 3 driving stations, each with a very short course meant to highlight one or two dynamic features. These are quick impressions, formed without the benefit of much time behind the wheel or any time driving the car on real roads in real-world traffic.

Powertrain performance: One station was a ~400' drag strip where 2011 and 2012 Impeza's ran side-by-side. You got to drive once in each car. Unfortunately it was restricted to automatic transmission cars. With the auto, it was pretty much a toss-up. In general, whoever cut the best light won. If the two cars got the same launch they were neck-and-neck all the way. I was pleasantly surprised with the 2.0. It felt more powerful than I expected and revved very smoothly. The CVT obviously helps performance compared to the old 4EAT. I'm told the 2012 manual cars will have "gearing adjustments" compared to the 2011's so I would expect the results would be similar, if not exactly the same. Overall, I'd guess most people who thought the 2.5i performed well enough will think this performs well enough and those who think this is too slow would probably think the same of the 2.5i. It will be a thin segment of people, in my opinion, who would find the actual performance of then new 2.0 objectionable but the current 2.5 satisfactory.

Handling: This car handles substantially better than the current 2.5i. There is less body roll, helped no doubt by the standard rear sway bar. Grip, at least with the 17" alloy wheel package which all the test cars had, seems improved. All the test cars had Yokohama Avid S34s; there wasn't an RE92 to be found anywhere! The steering assist is now electric instead of hydraulic. There is a little less feel, but the steering is very accurate and rather quick. Not crazy-quick like in a MINI Cooper or EVO VIII, but certainly quicker than in my WRX. One benefit of the electric steering is that there is no cavitation in the rack on quick back-to-back transitions, something I sometimes encounter when autocrossing my WRX. Because of the quick ratio and lack of cavitation, the new Impreza zipped through a tight multi-cone slalom in a very impressive fashion. I wish it were this easy in my WRX. As expected in this segment, the terminal attitude is moderate understeer. One station included a tight-ish 180 on wet pavement. The front started to wash out a bit, but the stability control came in subtly and kept the push to a minimum without impeding the progress. The slalom station had a very tight decreasing-radius 180 on dry pavement. Understeer was more pronounced here, although I'm not sure anything short of a compact RWD sportscar like a miata would have been able to get though that without noticeable push.

Styling: I'm generally biased towards hatches. I like the hatch of the current Impreza better than the sedan. My initial impression of the PICTURES of the new Impreza had me more excited about the hatch. I thought the sedan looked like an improvement, but nothing remarkable. In 3-D sheet metal, however, the sedan came off as the more handsome of the two. It's not exactly stunning, but its much more attractive than the baby-Legacy impression it makes when seen in pics. The hatch is more "square" at the back than the current model; this gives it better cargo capacity but it makes it look a little chunkier than the sedan. I like them both, but think the sedan will be the choice of the vast majority of buyers. Inside this will be the nicest Subaru available; not only nicer than the current Impreza but nicer even than the Legacy/Outback. Gone is the hard-plastic on the dash and top of the door cards. Materials are top-notch, and the styling is attractive. Some of the cars had leather which felt quite rich. The cars with cloth seats had a "sport mesh" fabric like that found in the GD RS/WRX. Styling is obviously subjective, but I think most shoppers are going to find the newcar much more attractive than the current version.

Other Notes: What we drove I think were "premium" and "limited" trims. There were not any "base" models to drive or even see. I did get to see (but not drive) a few "Sport" trim hatches. The "Outback" half of the moniker has apparently been dropped. One was all-silver (like has been shown in the press photographs), and there were a couple two-tones; Green over silver and carbon black over dark grey.

Base pricing on the new Impreza will be surprisingly competitive. Can't say the exact number but I can say it will be very close to the current price. Will have to wait and see what the optioned up versions cost. Expect the very first ones to hit dealers in late November, and significant ground stock to be established by early Feb.

I also got a quick look at a production-spec RWD sport coupe. I can't say much other than it look very good in a mini-Maserati kind of way. Forget the plexiglass show car, those are not the lines at all. Its much sexier. I'm in love and really want one to compliment my WRX.

I have some pics if anyone is willing to host them. (Of the Imprezas, not the coupe. There was a strict no-photo policy at the couple unveil)

[es vi: eks] 08-06-2011 10:48 PM

Interesting read.
I cant wait to see pics of the Subaru coupe when it comes out.
I wonder what model Maserati he thought it looked liked.

Fly Guy 08-07-2011 03:28 AM

Really cool news! More confirmation on the great new styling. :)

[es vi: eks] 08-07-2011 08:37 AM

Quote:

The actual car was shown. Honestly, I've said all I can say about the coupe. Besides, this is the 2012 Impreza thread. When/if I can talk more about the coupe I'll post in the FRS thread.
Man the actual coupe has been shown. Those guys that went to it are bloody lucky to view it.

Mr.Jay 08-07-2011 10:36 PM

If only someone woulld. Share

Allch Chcar 08-08-2011 12:40 AM

Aww snap. The 2012 Impreza sounds pretty interesting.

And of course the Coupe. Nothing to say but wait it out I suppose.

Levi 08-15-2011 12:15 PM

I hope the Subaru Coupé and the Toyota FT-86 will be shown in the same time. I don't car about brand, I just would take the car that fits me better: the more hard core one with more modding potential, especially concerning CF parts such as trunk, hood, roof, fenders,...


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