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shattered_memory 10-23-2016 08:03 PM

Any advice on making steering heavier?
 
Does anyone have advice on making steering feel a bit more heavy? Are there any alignment settings or modifications that can do this? I have done several suspension mods to try and get a heavier steering feel. The mods have definitely improved overall handling, but have not helped in a more weighted steering feel. Below are my current suspension mods. I am looking into sway bars to see if this may help. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

Current Suspension Mods:

Tein Flex Z (lowered 1.4 inch front/1 inch rear) 7/8 clicks from full stiff.
Grimmspeed Front strut bar
Energy Suspension Poly Front LCA bushings
Energy Suspension Poly steering rack bushings
17X9 +45 RPF1 w/ 245/40/17 Hankook RS3 (running 30 PSI cold all around)

Alignment Settings from the top of my head:
Front Camber: -1.5
Front Toe: 0
Front Caster: little over 6 degrees

Rear Camber: -.9
Rear Toe: Can't remember, but I know it is slight toe in.

swarb 10-23-2016 08:07 PM

More camber.

twag4 10-23-2016 08:15 PM

Whiteline caster correcting bushings. KCA-434 is the part number.

guybo 10-23-2016 08:19 PM

Yeah up the caster a few degrees. I don't know exactly how much. But bear in mind, you'll be changing the front suspension geometry which will have effects on front end grip and you may end up over working the electric steering motor.

Changing caster is a fundamental change.

DAEMANO 10-23-2016 08:21 PM

Wider tires, wheel spacers.

Marat 10-23-2016 08:42 PM

Smaller steering wheel :lol:

gramicci101 10-23-2016 08:44 PM

Air the tires out to 20 psi.

why? 10-23-2016 09:44 PM

remove the fuse for the electric steering.

Tor 10-23-2016 10:10 PM

Some of the other suggestion might help, but the most cost-effective would be slight toe-in at the front. It will make it stay in lane better too, but at the cost of turn-in.

Personally, I'll take a light feel (toe out) and good turn in over heavy steering feel.

With toe, we are talking miniscle differences with large effect. Try 0.05 inch deg toe-in instead of 0.

x808drifter 10-24-2016 05:26 PM

Go to a +35, or get 10mm spacers.
Cheap to try.

nikitopo 10-24-2016 05:37 PM

There are some bigger steering bolts and you can change also the bushings. Image of bolts:

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minka...t=c4fe6e91e735


After installation it is definetly heavier, but after a few days you'll get used to it ...

finch1750 10-24-2016 06:51 PM

Drive a car with lighter steering for a few days and then swap back

SkAsphalt 10-24-2016 07:04 PM

50 pound wheels

Captain Snooze 10-24-2016 07:20 PM

Buy a tractor.

shattered_memory 10-25-2016 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twag4 (Post 2781500)
Whiteline caster correcting bushings. KCA-434 is the part number.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I already installed energy poly bushings for front LCA. I probably should have gotten the whiteline bushings in the first place lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tor (Post 2781565)
Some of the other suggestion might help, but the most cost-effective would be slight toe-in at the front. It will make it stay in lane better too, but at the cost of turn-in.

Personally, I'll take a light feel (toe out) and good turn in over heavy steering feel.

With toe, we are talking miniscle differences with large effect. Try 0.05 inch deg toe-in instead of 0.

Thanks for the advice! I want the best in both worlds for turn in and steering weight. I will probably go -2 degrees of camber in front with a little bit of toe out in the front.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2782252)
There are some bigger steering bolts and you can change also the bushings. Image of bolts:

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minka...t=c4fe6e91e735


After installation it is definetly heavier, but after a few days you'll get used to it ...

After your post, I went ahead and ordered a set of the STI bolts. I currently have energy poly steering rack bushings,but with the stock bolt.

ap5512 10-25-2016 03:13 PM

I'm glad I ran into this thread. Last year I got RCE Yellows installed and noticed a huge difference in handling but that was to be expected. I think i noticed the lighter steering the most and i wasn't a huge fan of that. I went back and checked the alignment report and saw that the car had negative toe up front and I had asked to be dialed back to 0 degrees thinking any amount of toe wasn't good. This thread helped answer the question as to why the steering feels so light...not a bad thing but I also prefer just a tad more heavy-ness.

twag4 10-25-2016 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=shattered_memory;2783015]Thanks for the suggestion, but I already installed energy poly bushings for front LCA. I probably should have gotten the whiteline bushings in the first place lol

Easy to change, and not too expensive. You will get the results you're after.


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