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Mach Midnight 10-20-2016 10:55 AM

Production Numbers
 
Looking for production numbers by year, bonus points for including colors.

I know Toyota is rather tight lipped about it, and this may have been covered before, so apologies in advance.

Ultimately trying to find out how many other MY16 Ravens were made :)

Tcoat 10-20-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach Midnight (Post 2779218)
Looking for production numbers by year, bonus points for including colors.

I know Toyota is rather tight lipped about it, and this may have been covered before, so apologies in advance.

Ultimately trying to find out how many other MY16 Ravens were made :)

I have spent hours and hours looking for that data. It does not seem to be available.
There was some questionable data in and old thread someplace where a guy claimed to have found the breakdown of colours for the 2013 MY.


From memory (and remember they were not official to start with):


Black 20%
White 20%
Silver 15%
Red 15%
Blue 15%
Grey 10%
Orange 5%


In summary when looking for the number of Ravens the total would be a shitload.

Mach Midnight 10-20-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2779224)
I have spent hours and hours looking for that data. It does not seem to be available.
There was some questionable data in and old thread someplace where a guy claimed to have found the breakdown of colours for the 2013 MY.


From memory (and remember they were not official to start with):


Black 20%
White 20%
Silver 15%
Red 15%
Blue 15%
Grey 10%
Orange 5%


In summary when looking for the number of Ravens the total would be a shitload.

Hmm, well thanks. Maybe this information will surface later, as was the case with the Celica and Supra.

Tcoat 10-20-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach Midnight (Post 2779240)
Hmm, well thanks. Maybe this information will surface later, as was the case with the Celica and Supra.

Maybe but I doubt it. There is no value to Toyota in releasing this and anything that doesn't come directly from them is questionable anyway.

userjack6880 10-20-2016 11:42 AM

I have sales numbers by month, but not separated out by color, model year, etc... Assuming MY16 sales *started* around Sept (because they're now selling MY17 Toyota 86's as of Sept)...

Between Sept 2015 and Sept 2016, 8495 FR-S were sold.

Assuming 20% of them were Raven...

That's a total of 1699 Raven examples for MY16. But, those numbers are gonna be inaccurate.

Tcoat 10-20-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by userjack6880 (Post 2779245)
I have sales numbers by month, but not separated out by color, model year, etc... Assuming MY16 sales *started* around Sept (because they're now selling MY17 Toyota 86's as of Sept)...

Between Sept 2015 and Sept 2016, 8495 FR-S were sold.

Assuming 20% of them were Raven...

That's a total of 1699 Raven examples for MY16. But, those numbers are gonna be inaccurate.


Yep, sales numbers are easy to get but they don't mean much without production numbers. Could have sold 1000 black ones in one month and none in the next.

strat61caster 10-20-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by userjack6880 (Post 2779245)
I have sales numbers by month, but not separated out by color, model year, etc.

So does everyone with Google...

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/05...s-figures.html

With 60k sold so far and almost no noteworthy trim levels or upgrades, the only 'rare' 86's will be Scion's silly release series and a late model orange car with MT.

Tcoat 10-20-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2779364)
So does everyone with Google...

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/05...s-figures.html

With 60k sold so far and almost no noteworthy trim levels or upgrades, the only 'rare' 86's will be Scion's silly release series and a late model orange car with MT.

A 2013 blue (not WRB) BRZ with a MT will be the winner for rarity between the two badges.

Fishbed77 10-20-2016 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2779224)
I have spent hours and hours looking for that data. It does not seem to be available.
There was some questionable data in and old thread someplace where a guy claimed to have found the breakdown of colours for the 2013 MY.


From memory (and remember they were not official to start with):


Black 20%
White 20%
Silver 15%
Red 15%
Blue 15%
Grey 10%
Orange 5%


In summary when looking for the number of Ravens the total would be a shitload.


I find those numbers surprising. I see lots of orange, white, and red FR-Ss driving locally, but over the years, I can think of having seen only one silver one ever. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a blue one.

Granted, I live in South Carolina and every car is a pickup truck.

Tcoat 10-20-2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishbed77 (Post 2779438)
I find those numbers surprising. I see lots of orange, white, and red FR-Ss driving locally, but over the years, I can think of having seen only one silver one ever. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a blue one.

Granted, I live in South Carolina and every car is a pickup truck.

No doubt regional preferences will skew what you see. Around here it is mostly red, blue or white that I spot. The black or white ones can also sneak past without even noticing them.

funwheeldrive 10-20-2016 04:45 PM

I never see Hot Lava or Ultramarine here. Everything else is very common in Northern California. I usually see more BRZs though.

userjack6880 10-20-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2779274)
Yep, sales numbers are easy to get but they don't mean much without production numbers. Could have sold 1000 black ones in one month and none in the next.

Well, nobody bothered chiming in with that. lol

Adam_L 10-20-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2779364)
So does everyone with Google...

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/05...s-figures.html

With 60k sold so far and almost no noteworthy trim levels or upgrades, the only 'rare' 86's will be Scion's silly release series and a late model orange car with MT.

Silly huhhhhh, hmmmm silly. I got to sleep on that one, and rethink my life some more :confused0068::barf::bonk::bow::respekt::eyebulge:

strat61caster 10-20-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_L (Post 2779579)
Silly huhhhhh, hmmmm silly. I got to sleep on that one, and rethink my life some more :confused0068::barf::bonk::bow::respekt::eyebulge:

jmho

Three thousand bucks for a different shade of paint and a bunch of 'features' I have zero interest in just never tickled my fancy.

Glad you're happy with yours!

:cheers:

Mach Midnight 10-21-2016 10:26 AM

Just remembered something - The dealer that I got mine from said there were only two MY16 Ravens, and a red(?) one left in all of Pennsylvania.

funwheeldrive 10-21-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2779620)
jmho

Three thousand bucks for a different shade of paint and a bunch of 'features' I have zero interest in just never tickled my fancy.

Glad you're happy with yours!

:cheers:





It's all about the headlights my man. The 86 just looks wrong without them.

http://scionfremontca.fremontscion.c...s-at-NAIAS.jpg

strat61caster 10-21-2016 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2780056)
It's all about the headlights my man. The 86 just looks wrong without them.

If you lined up every headlight that's come in an 86 I don't think I could pick mine out.

Edit: seriously, in that picture I guess that angular white bar is what you're excited about? I really don't care.

Can't see it when I'm driving it, don't care what it looks like, and I'm strongly anti-HID.

:burnrubber:

Tcoat 10-21-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2780171)
If you lined up every headlight that's come in an 86 I don't think I could pick mine out.

Can't see it when I'm driving it, don't care what it looks like, and I'm strongly anti-HID.

:burnrubber:

We need to start a club! I despise those things for so many reasons.

venturaII 10-21-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2780175)
We need to start a club! I despise those things for so many reasons.



I'm already in that club, and I'm the CEO. HIDs are one of the worst automotive trends, ever.

Adam_L 10-21-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2780171)
If you lined up every headlight that's come in an 86 I don't think I could pick mine out.

Edit: seriously, in that picture I guess that angular white bar is what you're excited about? I really don't care.

:burnrubber:

That is the day time running LED lights = increased safety depending upon time/ place. Are we all for , or against being more safe on the open roads with other drivers ? ... check them tires ...... at least out here in CA, lots of people run their tires thin, then rain hits ... and people are driving way-way slower , slipping and sliding :thumbsup: Safety is job #1 :thumbsup::clap:

FR-Sky 10-21-2016 03:42 PM

I wonder how many 10 series they have O.o ?

lol jk.

strat61caster 10-21-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_L (Post 2780299)
That is the day time running LED lights = increased safety depending upon time/ place. Are we all for , or against being more safe on the open roads with other drivers ? ... check them tires ...... at least out here in CA, lots of people run their tires thin, then rain hits ... and people are driving way-way slower , slipping and sliding :thumbsup: Safety is job #1 :thumbsup::clap:

DRL have been on every 86 in every trim level across the world since the car has been made, so my car already has DRL. I guess those look different than my car? idfk, it's not making me nod my head and say 'oh yeah definitely worth spending extra money to get those'.

NHTSA and IIHS are critical of most car manufacturer headlights for inducing too much glare for other motorists. The IIHS just released it's headlight report and labeled 1 out of 82 cars as 'good', literally 1 car passed their test with flying colors (the new Prius V btw). The base halogens in the Honda Accord is noted as scoring 'acceptable' while the LED 'upgrade' scores lower at 'marginal', likely due to glare.

Quote:

A vehicle with excessive glare on any of the approaches can't earn a rating above marginal.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/deskto...ed-improvement

What part of California are you driving in? Dumbasses up here don't slow down at all in the rain which is why every major freeway gets an accident during any noteworthy storm. I agree proper lighting and tires and brakes are absolutely necessary for safe motoring, but all of those come on a base model 86.

Adam_L 10-21-2016 05:18 PM

Sounds like you are all good to go then on your exterior lighting situation then.

In some circumstances it is good to slow down a bit during a rain storm (especially when it is really dumping down) , but if it is light to moderate raining... and you have good tires ( I have Michelin hydroedge rain tires on my xA) , then posted speed limit can be maintained.. going that speed steady.

I live where it doesn't rain much , 30 miles from the coast , however mainly rains (Dec-March ... off/on). We got about a 1/4" a week ago.

strat61caster 10-21-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_L (Post 2780391)
I live where it doesn't rain much , 30 miles from the coast , however mainly rains (Dec-March ... off/on). We got about a 1/4" a week ago.

I went autocrossing in that 'storm'

Most fun I've had all month, just wish I was in my car and not someone elses, oh well.

:burnrubber:

Adam_L 10-21-2016 07:02 PM

ohhh yeah you are from SF.

That storm was pretty much from Santa Barbara and to the north. I think Sat. night was the heaviest point. The kicker with first storms of the season is the oil run off / dirty roads , so cars can get squirly out there, especially when rolling with a janky tire that almost has no tread left on it , and abrupt stopping going 30+ mph
Stay safe folks


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