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take the cannoli 10-19-2016 02:03 PM

Clutch whine during cold start
 
Hi all. First of all, sorry if this is a repost but I did do a fairly extensive search into the issue but never really found anything conclusive.

Lately during cold starts my car has been making a noticeable whining noise, particularly when I press the clutch pedal. It does get higher in pitch as the revs increase but I never have a problem with engagement or shifting. The whining noise goes away after about 15 minutes when the car is warmed up. The clutch travel also feels completely normal except for a small clutch fork squeak. I am quite worried that this is an early sign of a bad throwout bearing or something like that. My car is a 2013 model with about 47k miles.

I have tracked the car in the past, but I was never did any hard launches or clutch kicks. Nowadays, I drive the car pretty gently and rarely rev the engine above 4000 rpm. I have a habit of short shifting and I don't ride the clutch.

Can anybody tell me what's going on here? Any help would be appreciated.

Ultramaroon 10-19-2016 02:19 PM

Throwout bearing. You didn't break it. They just suck. Get it replaced before it kills the rest of your clutch.

Tcoat 10-19-2016 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2778521)
Throwout bearing. You didn't break it. They just suck. Get it replaced before it kills the rest of your clutch.


I concur^^^^^^^

microbionic 10-19-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2778543)
I concur^^^^^^^

Guess what happened to me today!!!!!!

... it was making a slight sound for about a month ... super quiet though.. only could hear it in the garage.... today it seized.

getting it towed to a shop friday.

Tcoat 10-19-2016 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbionic (Post 2778700)
Guess what happened to me today!!!!!!

... it was making a slight sound for about a month ... super quiet though.. only could hear it in the garage.... today it seized.

getting it towed to a shop friday.

And that is the way of the TOB.

wparsons 10-19-2016 05:44 PM

If it's making noise with the clutch not depressed, it shouldn't be the throw out bearing. Typical TOB symptoms are no noise clutch out, noise as soon as you start pushing the clutch.

DJCarbine 10-19-2016 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2778744)
If it's making noise with the clutch not depressed, it shouldn't be the throw out bearing. Typical TOB symptoms are no noise clutch out, noise as soon as you start pushing the clutch.

I've had cars where the TOB is in constant contact with the pressure plate fingers by design, and had the throwout bearing go bad... would make noise without touching the clutch pedal

Ultramaroon 10-19-2016 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2778744)
If it's making noise with the clutch not depressed, it shouldn't be the throw out bearing. Typical TOB symptoms are no noise clutch out, noise as soon as you start pushing the clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJCarbine (Post 2778862)
I've had cars where the TOB is in constant contact with the pressure plate fingers by design, and had the throwout bearing go bad... would make noise without touching the clutch pedal

This is one of them.

iag48st 01-16-2022 05:05 PM

Old thread I know …

Is it possible that Cold starts during the cold winter months cause the TOB to make the whirring sound when pressing clutch? It goes away after car is warmed up. Clutch feels fine, no issues shifting.

Ultramaroon 01-17-2022 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by iag48st (Post 3497283)
Old thread I know …

Is it possible that Cold starts during the cold winter months cause the TOB to make the whirring sound when pressing clutch? It goes away after car is warmed up. Clutch feels fine, no issues shifting.

It is never acceptable for a bearing to make any noise. It is failing now and won't improve on its own.

demasrv 01-20-2022 01:21 AM

Yeah likely the TOB. I'm mid rebuild and mine had been making a noise. It was very "crunchy" spinning it once I had it out.

Thanasis 09-28-2023 02:32 AM

I have same car and observation. Did you ever figure it out?




Quote:

Originally Posted by take the cannoli (Post 2778496)
Hi all. First of all, sorry if this is a repost but I did do a fairly extensive search into the issue but never really found anything conclusive.

Lately during cold starts my car has been making a noticeable whining noise, particularly when I press the clutch pedal. It does get higher in pitch as the revs increase but I never have a problem with engagement or shifting. The whining noise goes away after about 15 minutes when the car is warmed up. The clutch travel also feels completely normal except for a small clutch fork squeak. I am quite worried that this is an early sign of a bad throwout bearing or something like that. My car is a 2013 model with about 47k miles.

I have tracked the car in the past, but I was never did any hard launches or clutch kicks. Nowadays, I drive the car pretty gently and rarely rev the engine above 4000 rpm. I have a habit of short shifting and I don't ride the clutch.

Can anybody tell me what's going on here? Any help would be appreciated.


soundman98 09-28-2023 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanasis (Post 3593621)
I have same car and observation. Did you ever figure it out?

did you read the thread?

Ultramaroon 09-29-2023 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3593660)
did you read the thread?

OMG that's too hard!

Clipdat 09-29-2023 04:29 AM

Add me to the list of who this is happening to now. 2014 with 67k. Same exact symptoms as the OP, where it whines & makes a friction-y metallic whirring/grinding noise regardless of if the clutch is depressed or not (but the sound changes/gets louder when clutch pedal is pressed in) while the car is cold, and goes away when warmed up.

I've already ordered this TOB kit with fork and pivot, just waiting for it to come in so I can get it installed: https://shop.battlegarage-rs.com/pro...earing-upgrade

Thanasis 09-29-2023 04:48 AM

Yes, I did read it, that’s why I’m asking for an update and not just opinions. Subarus are known to have clunky clutches.

Ultramaroon 09-29-2023 04:26 PM

All of us in this thread have replaced our TOBs. It's going to be either that, or the accessory belt squeaking over the alternator pulley. You can unplug the control connector from your alternator while it's squeaking. If it suddenly stops when the load is removed, it's your belt.

You can also reach back and pull the top of the clutch fork forward to lift the bearing from the pressure plate. If the squeaking stops there, then it's your TOB.

soundman98 09-30-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3593697)
All of us in this thread have replaced our TOBs. It's going to be either that, or the accessory belt squeaking over the alternator pulley. You can unplug the control connector from your alternator while it's squeaking. If it suddenly stops when the load is removed, it's your belt.

You can also reach back and pull the top of the clutch fork forward to lift the bearing from the pressure plate. If the squeaking stops there, then it's your TOB.

correction-- i haven't. but i have all the parts on my shelf ready to go because i'm only at 52k, but i know it'll need to be done by the 60k service interval, along with spark plugs, brake fluid, diff, and trans fluids...

my clutch doesn't make any noises, other than some squeaking during activation(think that's the pivot, not the bearing), but just doesn't feel as rosy as it did when i first bought the car...


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