Question regarding Hill-start assist control
 

I apologize if this in the incorrect section, I had no idea where to post this question.

On the 2017 Toyota 86 it comes with Hill-start assist control which is disabled by default according to the manual. It seems logical to turn it on as it sounds useful, although it mentions to not depend on it with icy roads (common sense). Im not familiar with this feature nor incredibly automotive savy therefore I wonder is this something I want enabled and should I disable during winter months?

Thanks for any input

Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk

If used to a MT just leave it off and drive like normal. If new to MT then use it through the learning period and then gradually get used to driving without it. It is a great tool to learn on but until every other car ever made has it you don't want to become dependent in it's use or you will have issues with any other MT car you try to drive.

Agreed with Tcoat.

My 500 Abarth was the first car I owned with hill start, so I tried it. I felt it was harder to drive smoothly on hills with it on than with the system disabled. It holds the brake for you in order to let you get in gear before rolling back, but what that does is it sometimes requires you to give it more throttle than needed to disengage the braking.

If you can handle hills without problem with the system off, keep it off.

And giving it more throttle than needed will make you look like a total noob in traffic. Well either that or stalling it.

Great advice so far. Drive your car, learn your car, and you will never need to use hill-assist.

A little trick I used to use back when I was 16 was holding the e-brake up to prevent the car from rolling back and then released it once the clutch engaged.

E-brake is your best friend =]

Great tool to use to learn but still need to know how to do it without one. I have never pulled a handbrake on a hill in 40 years of driving. Mind you there was no handbrake for 30 years of that and since the foot engaged parking brake's life expectancy was about 6 months before they seized or snapped you had to learn to do without.

The only two times I have ever used the ebrake was when coming out of very steep underground parking garage ramps.

Well, I'm from FL, land of the hot and flat lol. We are not used to any kind of hills, generally.

we mostly drive in boring straight roads..nice scenic routes though

In san francisco ...you have to use it...cus your car is pointing 55-70 degree upward and the taxi or car behind you is like only 2 fists of distance...

Completely understood....i dont get why underground parking garage have such steep entrance/exit...
I had once got stuck in a very steep underground park exit with traffic....and the steep exit is very long too.....

Wuss. Then it just becomes a sport!

55-70 degrees? yeah...I don't think so :D

http://puu.sh/rr82O/128bead3d0.jpg

https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/b...2/Nob-Hill.jpg

I dont know about texas,, I usually dont drive my 86 to SF. It is a pain to drive a lowered car, manual in SF.

Enormous focal length does magic!

My mother taught me to drive on a manual transmission 20 years ago and would routinely make me park on the steepest hills we could find and then take off again. This hill new assist stuff is ridiculous.

Never use the handbrake, it's a bad habit to get into and you'll never learn to really use a clutch.

Hold the brake with the inside of your right foot, roll your ankle and rev the engine witht he outside of the right foot- it's the same way you heel and toe shift to blip the throttle. Use the clutch with your left foot and roll off the brake as you roll on the gas smoothly.

That said, WTF is with that hill in SF? I think I'd have to use my handbrake there, that's ridiculous.

Yep

The Steepest Streets in the City, Purportedly
1. (tie) Filbert between Leavenworth and Hyde (31.5% grade)
1. (tie) 22nd between Church and Vicksburg (31.5% grade)
3. Jones between Union and Filbert (29% grade)
4. Duboce between Buena Vista and Alpine (27.9% grade)
5. Jones between Green and Union (26% grade)
6. Webster between Vallejo and Broadway (26% grade)
7. Duboce between Alpine and Divisadero (25% grade)
8. Jones between Pine and California (24.8 grade)
9. Fillmore between Vallejo and Broadway (24% grade)
Source: San Francisco Bureau Of Engineering