ABS off button?
 

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...8&d=1255200028

did anyone else notice that? on the left it looks like a traction control/stability control button, but on the right, it looks like an ABS on/off button???

-Mike

Hmm, very interesting. Good eye!

maybe...

OMG only one-touch auto window on the driver side? whyyyyy?

Repost.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38

my bad. i thought it made more sense in this forum and didn't see it here, so... anyway, i read the other thread and as far as the discussion regarding having an ABS-off feature...

my truck disables ABS when i engage my rear diff lock, so i don't think it would be a legality issue. it'd be nice if it toggled through different ABS levels, as stated previously. maybe normal-sport-snow-off.

-Mike

what's the point of different abs levels?

not different levels, just on or off i think, for track work for instance
Jay

different levels for differing road conditions/driving styles. the ideal amount of lock is different on dry roads or snow. on a track you want more lock than on the street. and some of us might want to practice threshold braking with the ABS turned off.

-Mike

on wet condition you may want to turn that ABS on, but best way to appreciate ABS is to practice on a non ABS car thats why the AE86 is a great teacher makes you enhance the feel or understand the brake feed back and teaches you how to react on a wheel lock.

I am a big fan of being able to turn off all driver aids and learning how to actually drive the car yourself. An esp/ tc system that can be turned off completely is a must for me. I have never seen a car with an abs off button, but it sounds like a great idea.

yeah, that's the first time i've seen an ABS off button. it will be interesting to see if that makes production, and exactly what it does. like i said up there, my truck disables ABS when i have my rear diff locked, but that's different...

-Mike

i doubt it will make it to production, but it's still a fun idea.

i could see the benefit of having the ABS off button on the subaru AWD version of the FT if it doesn't disable the EBC. For off-roading in gravel and ice ABS can be a hassle to deal with, many offroad vehicle owners pull the ABS fuse to disable ABS during competitions.

It wont make into production because when susy with her chewing gum buy the car and gets in an knocks the button into off mode with her handbag and has a crash because she didn't know how to stop she will sue and get millions... but would be an awesome idea!

That's why they'll put it on the dash next to the red triangle button (the e-blinkers)... that's not something they'd want susy bubblegum dropping her handbag on and skidding out into the middle of an intersection because of it.

I'd like to see them bring it to production.

The 86 has taught me much. Mostly that old cars break down too much. But also how to actually drive.

ABS + Snow & Ice = Oh Shit Oh Shit

Tires locking on Ice and Snow is good. Bad if you're trying to turn and you lock them up, but for stopping its good. It works like a plow and builds up more snow and crap in front of the tires and slows you down faster than braking. ABS just lets you roll over the snow and never build up that wall to slow you down. Great for pavement though :)

Nice eye, I sure wouldnt mind it... better than having to pull the fuse and have that stupid light bother me.

Toyota is billing this car as a factory drift machine, as such being able to disengage abs and esc is a must. Hopefully Toyota doesn't get gun shy after the recent unpleasantness.

Are you sure bout that? It makes sense if you're braking straight and stopped straight. Most of the time when ABS locks on the snow/ice, half of the time it spins due to F/R brake pressures are difference.

Tires locking up on ice and snow is not good. Lived in Canada all my life, never heard that nor has it proven useful in any of the situations I have been in.

In many instances ABS increases braking distance in snow/gravel/slush conditions.

There are many people who have personally done this test - I recommend you do as well because its like night and day difference.
find and remove the fuse for your ABS system. Do an emergency stop on an icy surface. mark distance.. Replace the fuse and reattempt the same test and watch as you ROLL past your previous stop point.

"Testing also shows that good snow tires reduce the stopping distance of ABS-equipped vehicles in winter conditions (Transport Canada urges the installation of four snow tires to maintain equal traction on each wheel). Nevertheless, it’s recommended that drivers allow for a longer stopping distance with ABS than for conventional brakes when driving on gravel, sand, ice, snow and mud. This is because the rotating tire will stay on top of these low-traction road surfaces and effectively “float” on the boundary layer. (Conversely, a non-ABS-braked vehicle can lock its tires and create a snowplow effect in front of the tires that helps slow the vehicle. These locked tires can often find more traction below this “boundary layer.”)"

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2005/0...ock-brakes.htm

ABS increases the ability for YOU to maintain vehicle direction / stability.