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DarrenDriven 07-09-2012 11:51 AM

Suspension Review: Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs
 
This topic is linked from:
BRZ/FR-S Suspension Options List (Springs and Coilovers)


http://i.imgur.com/MP8PJ.jpg

Product: Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs
Front: claimed 1.0" vs actual 7/8" (rate: 3.6kg/mm)
Rear: claimed 1.0" vs actual 7/8" (rate: 4.9kg/mm)
Part No: 8210.5.140
MSRP: $359

Manufacturer Link

Lowering Spring Installation DIY



I have had the Eibach Pro-Kit on my FR-S for about a week now, with over 200 miles of spirited driving on the street and in the mountains. I am extremely happy with this product as it simply improves the driver's experience with a slightly stronger connection to the road without being overly harsh.

The drop is advertised as a 1.0" front and rear, although my 2013 FR-S was only lowered 7/8" evenly at all four corners. That is close to an inch, but with the car riding so high to start off with I wish that the error would have been in the other direction. The new look simply removes the unsightly wheel gap that plagues the Scion. The front spring rate is increased by 56% (3.6kg/mm vs 2.7kg/mm stock) and the rear by 29% (4.9kg/mm vs 3.8kg/mm stock) and although this sounds a little extreme, some coilover kits have four times the stiffness of the stock springs.

These springs aren't harsh. Road feel is improved, but I don't cringe when I see a ripple, pothole or driveway. The car has a tendency to bounce just a bit more under aggressive driving on extremely rough surfaces, though, and I would definitely recommend upgrading the dampers (shocks) as a complimentary modification if you plan to take driving seriously. Around town you could easily live with the stock shocks (until they die, possibly)

I would recommend these springs for the BRZ/FR-S owner who simply wants to remove the 4WD look of the car without resorting to any extreme measures. The Eibach brand is an industry staple and customer satisfaction is high. This is a safe bet at a good price.




http://i.imgur.com/RkmKi.jpg
Front Spring comparison with stock on top and Eibach Pro-Kit on bottom

http://i.imgur.com/yqwKw.jpg
Rear spring comparison with Eibach Pro-Kit on top and stock on bottom


http://i50.tinypic.com/2ngv80j.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/f1msup.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/14kz1ww.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/zvbpsz.jpg

jeebus 07-09-2012 12:13 PM

looks nice! I don't ever upgrade springs without upgrading shocks though.

DarrenDriven 07-09-2012 12:16 PM

Well, I have coilovers on the way but I simply couldn't look at the car any longer with the nosebleed altitude.

Kiwi 07-09-2012 12:24 PM

One thing I don't understand.

How do they measure the spring rates on a progressive coil design?
Did they measure the rate of the first, middle or last section of compression??

Synack 07-09-2012 12:36 PM

Good review. but at the looks of that, I'm going to need at least a 2" drop. I will have nothing less than HELLA FLUSH.

Synack 07-09-2012 12:39 PM

These: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tein-Tech-Sp...449c6a&vxp=mtr

Look like they could give a bit more of a drop. I'm curious as to what Megan Racing will provide since they always seem to give a lower drop than others.

f0rge 07-09-2012 01:14 PM

damn that looks good but not enough drop for me either, i was hoping i could avoid coilovers but maybe not....

DarrenDriven 07-09-2012 01:19 PM

The Eibach Sportline springs are a 1.4" drop all around, those are another good alternative to coilovers if you want to save $$$.

lucchesi423 07-09-2012 07:28 PM

thanks for the review! did you by chance take a before and after picture of the wheel gap from the fender to the wheel at close range? id love to see those as well if you did.

Apex Chase 07-09-2012 07:51 PM

Nice post. The car looks great!

DarrenDriven 07-09-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucchesi423 (Post 305026)
thanks for the review! did you by chance take a before and after picture of the wheel gap from the fender to the wheel at close range? id love to see those as well if you did.

Not up close, I didn't. Shoot.

Synack 07-10-2012 11:36 PM

Seems like 19 inch wheels and the lowest drop springs might achieve a decent flush status. But 18 inch wheels and smaller will probably need coilovers.

lucchesi423 07-11-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 305259)
Not up close, I didn't. Shoot.

its all good. all you really have to do is get another board member with the same color car to take the stock height photo, then you yourself take the photo of your car as it is now. Overall, looks really good, what shocks are you eventually switching to once the stockies go?

DarrenDriven 07-11-2012 02:20 AM

I have coilovers on the way, these springs are just temporary until the coilovers show.

f0rge 07-11-2012 03:39 PM

any updates? did your car ever settle at the full 1inch drop?

BioRage 07-11-2012 03:41 PM

Needs more low.

If you can fit your hand in it, it's not low enough.

You rears especially. :thumbsup:

:happy0180:

lucchesi423 07-11-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 308020)
I have coilovers on the way, these springs are just temporary until the coilovers show.

money much? what coilover set did you get?

7thgear 07-11-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioRage (Post 309142)
Needs more low.

If you can fit your hand in it, it's not low enough.

You rears especially. :thumbsup:

:happy0180:

if you can fit your hand in, that means you have suspension travel and your car won't skid at the slightest bump in a corner.

skoodge 07-11-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack (Post 304301)
These: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tein-Tech-Sp...449c6a&vxp=mtr

Look like they could give a bit more of a drop. I'm curious as to what Megan Racing will provide since they always seem to give a lower drop than others.

Anyone know if these are actually in stock/ready to ship? I've checked everywhere and most websites aren't getting these springs 'til the end of July, find it hard to believe that this guy is sitting on a nice stock of them ready to ship/sell.

DarrenDriven 07-11-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f0rge (Post 309140)
any updates? did your car ever settle at the full 1inch drop?

Nope. 7/8" and I've put hundreds of miles on the car. I don't think it's going down any more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucchesi423 (Post 309149)
money much? what coilover set did you get?

KWs showed up last week, but I am waiting for D2s to arrive. I want to try the $1000 set before deciding to install or sell the $2000 set.

funbeatsfast 07-11-2012 11:52 PM

A similar review of the D2's would be awesome and much appreciated. Not that this one wasn't.

DarrenDriven 07-12-2012 01:40 AM

I will definitely do that.

TRD_86 07-12-2012 04:06 PM

Nice to see your eibach prokit. Nice drop compare to stock. The drive diffinitely improved over stock in handling. I currently have the sportlines. Car has good handling thru curves at high speed

Jackson 07-12-2012 07:37 PM

Darren, great review! Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 304259)
looks nice! I don't ever upgrade springs without upgrading shocks though.

Our Eibach engineers design the springs around the factory shocks. We rate test the factory springs and shock dyno the factory shocks. A sport tuned shock should would perform better over a factory shock, of course. But the factory shocks will perform well enough for street use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skoodge (Post 309187)
Anyone know if these are actually in stock/ready to ship? I've checked everywhere and most websites aren't getting these springs 'til the end of July, find it hard to believe that this guy is sitting on a nice stock of them ready to ship/sell.

We've been shipping these since the end of last month. Some distributors may have gotten them sooner than others based on their location. We definitely have plenty of these in stock and ready to ship.

skoodge 07-12-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson (Post 311990)

We've been shipping these since the end of last month. Some distributors may have gotten them sooner than others based on their location. We definitely have plenty of these in stock and ready to ship.

Can I get a link to an order page? Or a pm with details on how to get these, definitely want them asap.

DarrenDriven 07-12-2012 11:24 PM

Hey AJUSA, please keep the commercial replies in the commercial forum and don't hijack my review to sell product. Thanks.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48

Jackson 07-13-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skoodge (Post 312355)
Can I get a link to an order page? Or a pm with details on how to get these, definitely want them asap.

We are the manufacturer and, unfortunately, we do not sell direct to retail customers. I would recommend contacting Evasive at the link below or one of the other dealers advertising in the link Darren provided above.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10693

f0rge 07-13-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD_86 (Post 311575)
Nice to see your eibach prokit. Nice drop compare to stock. The drive diffinitely improved over stock in handling. I currently have the sportlines in red drop at 1.4"; Look very low, aerodynamic, w/ excellent handling at high speed passing !

can you post some pics of how your car sits on the sportlines? these are the springs i'm looking to get and i want to see how low they drop the car.

CBR600RR 07-13-2012 03:35 PM

Here you go - quoted from another thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven (Post 311487)
A couple people asked for better photos of the fender gap on the Eibachs.

http://i49.tinypic.com/f1msup.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/14kz1ww.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/zvbpsz.jpg


DarrenDriven 07-13-2012 03:49 PM

Oops, I should have added those to the first page... fixed that. Thanks.

Z86 07-13-2012 06:32 PM

Any chance of some profile pics @DarrenDriven to see how much they poke now.
Just to confirm that at the moment you have the Rota Torque 17x9 +30 and lowering springs - thats it wheels and suspension wise (until your coil overs arrive).
Any rub issues?

DarrenDriven 07-13-2012 10:51 PM

Yeah, I will take some soon.

No rubbing at all with the 1" drop and 17x9.0 +30, but I am still going to get the front pair of wheels machined slightly to raise the offset about 10mm.

detainu 07-15-2012 09:51 PM

Mine after 1" Eibach Kit
 
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DarrenDriven 07-16-2012 02:48 AM

It really just strikes me as the way the car should have come in the first place. Not scraping-the-speedbumps low, just sexy low. Car looks great!

leej 07-16-2012 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detainu (Post 317263)


that looks awesome!!! im 100% sold now lol

how much negative camber did u get at the front after the springs? u reckon 18x8.5 +38 wheels will be tucked in??

detainu 07-16-2012 09:27 PM

Hey thanks, we sure like it! Yours looks great as well Darren, want to see it in person some day. I'm not really sure about the camber, I had Les Schwab install them for me and my wife picked it up so I didn't get a chance to talk to them after. I wanted to go 8.5, but they advised against it. But honestly, I think you'd be just fine after looking at mine with 8.0 wheels.

ultra 07-21-2012 03:17 PM

Any issues with shock travel or hitting the bump stops?

rcm47 07-23-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detainu (Post 317263)

Really nice! I'm considering this set up on mine. Nice, simple, classy, and not too expensive.

DarrenDriven 07-24-2012 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra (Post 330201)
Any issues with shock travel or hitting the bump stops?

No bottoming out, and it comes with new bump stops anyway so I think that helps. Feels just a little stiffer than stock, like how it LOOKS like it should feel, if that makes sense.

killercl0wnfish 08-06-2012 08:55 AM

did u have any camber problems with only droping 1 inch ? and if so what did u do to currect this ? thanks


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