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dvasqu01 09-17-2016 12:29 AM

Big bear snow chain or tires
 
So I'm planning on renting a cabin up in big bear or crest line for my gf and I for our anniversary of one year in the December most of the them in their description said that they highly recommend snow chains for the winter months but I've been reading that it's no Bueno for the twin ??? So I'm kinda lost I won't buy snow tires just for weekend that's kinda dumb imo what should I do ?


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gramicci101 09-17-2016 12:32 AM

If it's just for a weekend, rent a 4wd truck.

dvasqu01 09-17-2016 12:32 AM

My pops has a tundra just might ask him then 🤔😔


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Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dvasqu01 (Post 2754888)
So I'm planning on renting a cabin up in big bear or crest line for my gf and I for our anniversary of one year in the December most of the them in their description said that they highly recommend snow chains for the winter months but I've been reading that it's no Bueno for the twin ??? So I'm kinda lost I won't buy snow tires just for weekend that's kinda dumb imo what should I do ?

True. For a twin, chains are contraindicated.

Suggest buying a set of wheels with snow tires and maybe sell them once you're finished with them

...or rent a car. :(

dvasqu01 09-17-2016 12:36 AM

Thanks sigh 😔😔😔😔😔😤😤😩😩😩😏


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Stang70Fastback 09-17-2016 12:37 AM

There is no reason ANY car can't run chains. Generally the limitation comes from whether or not there is enough clearance around the wheel for the chains. If you can install chains that don't contact the strut/spring perch and any other parts of the car (a tight set of chains should work) then you could run them.

But all of what I just said is moot, because I think if you're renting a cabin, you can afford to rent a more appropriate vehicle for a few days, which is the MUCH better option. It's one thing if you know the area, and you will be driving regularly, in which case buying winter tires would make sense, but you're going somewhere unknown, and it's best not to find out when you get there that you need something that can plow through 8-12" of snow uphill.

dvasqu01 09-17-2016 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 2754893)
There is no reason ANY car can't run chains. Generally the limitation comes from whether or not there is enough clearance around the wheel for the chains. If you can install chains that don't contact the strut/spring perch and any other parts of the car (a tight set of chains should work) then you could run them.

But all of what I just said is moot, because I think if you're renting a cabin, you can afford to rent a more appropriate vehicle for a few days, which is the MUCH better option. It's one thing if you know the area, and you will be driving regularly, but you're going somewhere unknown, and it's best not to find out when you get there that you need something that can plow through 8-12" of snow uphill.



Been up there a couple of times just that I wanted to take my car up there I'll just ask the father for the dang truck lol


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Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dvasqu01 (Post 2754890)
My pops has a tundra just might ask him then 🤔😔

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dvasqu01 09-17-2016 12:49 AM

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Mr.ac 09-17-2016 01:01 AM

I pretty sure you could use tire chains. Read the manual for that one.
I know if you lower your car chains or have non OEM wheels chains will wreck things up.

but if it doesn't snow you good. If it does rent a truck or use your dads.

Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 2754893)
There is no reason ANY car can't run chains.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2754902)
I pretty sure you could use tire chains. Read the manual for that one.
I know if you lower your car chains or have non OEM wheels chains will wreck things up.

Hey, you guys are right. I could've sworn I read it in the manual but maybe it was some bullshit here.

So far, all I've found in the manual was "Be careful not to scratch your aluminum wheels with chains."

Tcoat 09-17-2016 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754918)
Hey, you guys are right. I could've sworn I read it in the manual but maybe it was some bullshit here.

So far, all I've found in the manual was "Be careful not to scratch your aluminum wheels with chains."

Page 186 winter driving. Do not use chains. Spring chains may be ok.

Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2754930)
Page 186 winter driving. Do not use chains. Spring chains may be ok.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Confirmed - page 186:sign0012:

retoocs 09-17-2016 01:44 AM

Your are assuming there's going to be snow there. Let's be realistic here.

dvasqu01 09-17-2016 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754918)
Hey, you guys are right. I could've sworn I read it in the manual but maybe it was some bullshit here.

So far, all I've found in the manual was "Be careful not to scratch your aluminum wheels with chains."



Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2754930)
Page 186 winter driving. Do not use chains. Spring chains may be ok.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754933)
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Confirmed - page 186:sign0012:



Hahahaha made my night


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dvasqu01 09-17-2016 01:47 AM

Big bear snow chain or tires
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 2754938)
Your are assuming there's going to be snow there. Let's be realistic here.



Shit man you never now but then again haha


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Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dvasqu01 (Post 2754940)
Hahahaha made my night

Shut up, kid. Go get your manual and read it for yourself.

dvasqu01 09-17-2016 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754945)
Shut up, kid. Go get your manual and read it for yourself.



Make me grumpy


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Thefear13 09-17-2016 02:07 AM

There's a good chance that you wont need chains. It didnt really snow much up there.

Toyarzee 09-17-2016 02:18 AM

I have a 4wd rav4 and chains even still, and I've only ever passed a chain checkpoint going up there maybe 8 or 9 times in over a decade...

It's sad cause i wish for it and it still doesnt happen. Before January id gamble that your tires will never see anything but dry pavement. If good luck is upon us, use the tundra lol.

Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thefear13 (Post 2754950)
There's a good chance that you wont need chains. It didnt really snow much up there.

He's going in December.

...not that it changes anything. :popcorn:

vincelive123 09-17-2016 03:43 AM

Listen to me very carefully, GET BLIZZAKS TIRES(how ever you spell it).
get some 16s black wheelies and put those bad boys in them. Make sure you use OPEN style lug nuts with the wheelies because if you dont, your stock lug nuts will get fxcked because it can protrude.
I would know all about driving a RWD FRS in the winter. I use to be stationed in Great Falls for 4 years & we had -40F snow day temperatures & had ICE, not snow, but straight ICE on the roads. Get some BLIZZAKS and you will be perfect. The best investment I ever had so far.... Make sure you also know how to handle cars in the snow....

Stang70Fastback 09-17-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754918)
Hey, you guys are right. I could've sworn I read it in the manual but maybe it was some bullshit here.

So far, all I've found in the manual was "Be careful not to scratch your aluminum wheels with chains."

The manual knows things, but the manual is also overly conservative. The manual also states you cannot tow anything with this car, but I tow a 650 lb trailer regularly without any issues :)

retoocs 09-17-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dvasqu01 (Post 2754941)
Shit man you never now but then again haha

2009 December total 10"
2010 December 8"
2011 December zero
2012 December zero
2013 December 15"
2014 December 6"
2015 December zero

Chances are it's not going to snow like I said. I would just rent a SUV and buy the extra insurance and go hoon it. If there are white stuff falling, you don't want to be on the road with your own car considering how bad California drivers are in general, most of whom have never driven in the snow.

Tcoat 09-17-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vincelive123 (Post 2754994)
Listen to me very carefully, GET BLIZZAKS TIRES(how ever you spell it).
get some 16s black wheelies and put those bad boys in them. Make sure you use OPEN style lug nuts with the wheelies because if you dont, your stock lug nuts will get fxcked because it can protrude.
I would know all about driving a RWD FRS in the winter. I use to be stationed in Great Falls for 4 years & we had -40F snow day temperatures & had ICE, not snow, but straight ICE on the roads. Get some BLIZZAKS and you will be perfect. The best investment I ever had so far.... Make sure you also know how to handle cars in the snow....

He is going for a weekend. Snow tires would be a horrible investment.

Tcoat 09-17-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754945)
Shut up, kid. Go get your manual and read it for yourself.

Fun fact. I found the page while on a boat, in the middle of Georgian Bay, in the rain, while holding a fishing pole. What is his excuse.

MuseChaser 09-17-2016 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincelive123 (Post 2754994)
Listen to me very carefully, GET BLIZZAKS TIRES(how ever you spell it).
get some 16s black wheelies and put those bad boys in them. Make sure you use OPEN style lug nuts with the wheelies because if you dont, your stock lug nuts will get fxcked because it can protrude.
I would know all about driving a RWD FRS in the winter. I use to be stationed in Great Falls for 4 years & we had -40F snow day temperatures & had ICE, not snow, but straight ICE on the roads. Get some BLIZZAKS and you will be perfect. The best investment I ever had so far.... Make sure you also know how to handle cars in the snow....

OK. Do NOT buy a set of snows and steel wheels for a single weekend trip, unless you hate money and feel a burning need to get rid of it. If you DO, let me know.. I'm sure I can help you part with it.

Second, as someone who's also spent the majority of his life in severe winter climates, the severe cold actually HELPS. -40F, no matter whether you're driving on snow or ice, helps keep things dry and solid so you don't have that extra thin layer of liquid lubricant (water) on top of the ice or snow. The worst roads I've experienced have always been on salted surfaces with temperatures in the 20s up to freezing. Where I live now we get a ton of snow, so they salt frequently to help melt it simply because we have no place to put it all. Previously, I lived even further north where we got subzero temperatures on a fairly regular basis, but less snowfall. They didn't salt up there.. just plowed, and sanded when necessary. The roads were much, MUCH better. I hate salt.

And, just to show how old I am, my dad would never have lent me a car or truck to take my girlfriend anywhere for weekend, unless I happened to be married to her. It's not my place to judge anyone, but I kind of miss those days. Value each other highly.

Best wishes,

Barry

Thefear13 09-17-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754958)
He's going in December.

...not that it changes anything. :popcorn:

ya, but that doesn't really matter in Southern California. Last year it only snowed up there like 5 times and it didn't stick.

Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thefear13 (Post 2755157)
ya, but that doesn't really matter in Southern California. Last year it only snowed up there like 5 times and it didn't stick.

I know, right? That's why I was saying "meh."

Dad's truck will come in handy. Kudos for thinking ahead. Hopefully he'll remember to pack some condoms too.

continuecrushing 09-17-2016 06:06 PM

leave the car and just take a snowmobile up there instead.

dvasqu01 09-17-2016 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2755158)
I know, right? That's why I was saying "meh."

Dad's truck will come in handy. Kudos for thinking ahead. Hopefully he'll remember to pack some condoms too.



I am lots of them too haha


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Ultramaroon 09-17-2016 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dvasqu01 (Post 2755396)
I am lots of them too haha

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08stiguy 09-30-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2754902)
I pretty sure you could use tire chains. Read the manual for that one.
I know if you lower your car chains or have non OEM wheels chains will wreck things up.

but if it doesn't snow you good. If it does rent a truck or use your dads.



I've used them with no problem. Just make sure to use either stock wheels or some you could really care less about http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0282dd2d58.jpg


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Josue Cafe FR-S 09-30-2016 04:48 PM

I'm a huge snowboarder and I took my twin up to Big Bear about 5 times last season with no snow tires nor chains. Here in so cal is tough to have enough snow built up to really require chains unless you drive up or down in the middle of the storm. Its hot enough during the day to melt anything that comes down over night. They always say its recommended you need chains but rarely required enforced. Check the website the days leading up to your drive and you should be good to go. Toughest part of the trip was parking and getting out of parking since we are low and they tell you to park on ice so I was spinning tires trying to get out. All in all I had no worries about going to Big Bear in the twin.

dvasqu01 09-30-2016 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 08stiguy (Post 2765277)
I've used them with no problem. Just make sure to use either stock wheels or some you could really care less about http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0282dd2d58.jpg


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Originally Posted by Josue Cafe FR-S (Post 2765337)
I'm a huge snowboarder and I took my twin up to Big Bear about 5 times last season with no snow tires nor chains. Here in so cal is tough to have enough snow built up to really require chains unless you drive up or down in the middle of the storm. Its hot enough during the day to melt anything that comes down over night. They always say its recommended you need chains but rarely required enforced. Check the website the days leading up to your drive and you should be good to go. Toughest part of the trip was parking and getting out of parking since we are low and they tell you to park on ice so I was spinning tires trying to get out. All in all I had no worries about going to Big Bear in the twin.



Thank you guys 👍🏼


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