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Terruko 09-14-2016 06:17 AM

What do you guys use to wash your FR-S?
 
What products?

Thanks.

KendallH 09-14-2016 06:21 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=42

RichardsFRS 09-14-2016 06:52 AM

He uses a link to wash his car I guess, I use armorall car wash and turtle wax, windex glass cleaner, thats it, nothing else, no claybar buffers are any of that junk, just the basics

MarkR171 09-14-2016 09:20 AM

Optimum No-Rinse Wash and Wax using the two-bucket method. Because I'm too lazy to load the car and drive half a mile across my apartment complex to the carwash stall and would rather wash the car on my driveway.

Two coats of Zaino Z2 sealant once every 4-6 months. Zaino Tire Shine (does not streak, does not leave a slimy residue, just looks dark satin black, not actually glossy.)

For wheels, I use Sonax wheel cleaner, but the FRS stock brakes/pads never need it... mostly use this on the AMG after track days with track pads.

DJCarbine 09-14-2016 09:28 AM

2 bucket with ONR or *insert soap here*

Been fond of Chemical guys honeydew soap, sometimes I use the foam lance to soap it up, other times just the 2 bucket

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR171 (Post 2752720)
For wheels, I use Sonax wheel cleaner, but the FRS stock brakes/pads never need it... mostly use this on the AMG after track days with track pads.

Sonax is amazing, I bought the 5 Liter jugs when I was running very dusty pads. Didn't have to touch the wheels to get them clean.

JD001 09-14-2016 09:32 AM

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Seriously, just pressure washer and dry with microfiber towels as I have had a ceramic coating applied to the paint and it's very slippery....

NOHOME 09-14-2016 09:43 AM

Mother Nature.

Teseo 09-14-2016 09:51 AM

Water and soap

https://youtu.be/CFXfSBR5Q9w

kmbkk 09-14-2016 10:10 AM

I use Adam's Car Care products:


http://adamspolishes.com/

Mr.Impreza 09-14-2016 11:07 AM

Water, Soap, Towel

Than for wax, I use Meguiars
For interior I use this leather/pleather shiner from some UK company and Armor All

For tire shine I use Simonz

MuseChaser 09-14-2016 12:07 PM

What is this "wash your car" activity you speak of?

humfrz 09-14-2016 12:40 PM

Car wash soap and water.


humfrz

Kaotic Lazagna 09-14-2016 12:42 PM

Two bucket method. Meguiar's Gold Class soap. One microfiber mitt for the the body, one microfiber mitt for the wheels. One Absorber for the body and another for the wheels. Meguiar's QD spray while drying to help prevent marring/scratches. Collinite 476s wax. When I do a full detail, Meguiar's blue clay bar with Ultimate Quick Detail. I have Meg's Ultimate Compound, Swirl-x, Scratch-x, Deep Crystal Polish, and Plast-x on standby should I need them.

Kaotic Lazagna 09-14-2016 12:43 PM

Oh and for bird crap or other debris, Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax Anywhere with a microfiber towel. Stoner's Window Cleaner for the windows.

radroach 09-14-2016 12:53 PM

I use Meguiar's D110 Shampoo Plus (buy it in bulk 1 gallon at a time), two bucket (chemical guys bucket with grit guard) and two different mitts,
Water magnets for drying.

For the front bumper and lower panels I use a green chenile mitt, it has a lot of cleaning power for removing bugs and is fairly soft.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1000_.jpg

And for the rest of the body paint I use a Microfiber wash mitt, which has less cleaning power, but is very soft and gentle on the paint, almost too gentle sometimes!:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg


For waxing I use Meguiar's ultimate wax liquid on the body paint and wheels. Sometimes I also use the spray wax.

For wheel cleaning I use acid-free wheel and tire cleaner and an assortment of brushes. For rubber and trim dressing and interior I use 303 aerospace.

weederr33 09-14-2016 04:37 PM

I use the AMMO NYC Paint Regimen kit, which includes the foam cleanser, ammo hydrate, and ammo skin (a sealant) every couple months. I also put a layer of Ammo Reflex on every 6 months or so. To make it look shiny, I use Meguiar's Gold carnauba wax and endurance tire shine. I've only used a clay bar once on my car. Didn't really need it honestly. The AMMO stuff is totally worth the price, too.

https://www.ammonyc.com/shop/ammo-paint-regimen-kit/

Gello 09-14-2016 05:24 PM

I've always used Maguiars Gold on all my cars I've had over years. Just last week I noticed new product by them. The Ultimate Maguiars wash and wax. So far so good, suds up great! and nice shine too. Not sure if wax part actually works but I'm too lazy wax anyways lol

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MuseChaser 09-14-2016 06:24 PM

OK, you guys inspired me. I just spent three quality hours with my car, two buckets, two crappy sponges, Maguire's wheel cleaner, Maguire's car wash concentrate, and Maguire's Carnuba/Polymer blend stuff. Now I remember why I hate washing and waxing my cars so much, and why I kind of just stopped a while ago (years).

I'm too compulsive. Every little chip (pinhead size and smaller) bums me out. Washing the car, for me, is an exercise in total depression. "Crap.. where did I get THAT chip?" "I don't remember this many little paint imperfections in my {any previous German car}..." "I wonder how much it would cost to have the whole car repainted..." .. and on and on in my head. I HATE washing my car. I'd rather replace rusted rotors and calipers than wash my car.

With my newish-to-me 2013 FR-S (owned for 11 months), I decided to try and turn over a new leaf and keep it clean. My previous love (E36 325i) got washed and waxed once after I bought it used, and that was about it for the next 180K miles. Obviously, here in central NY, it eventually rusted out, but it took 10 years and that many miles. Knowing (OK, assuming) that the FR-S would probably not hold up to salt quite as well, I vowed to be a better person. Knowing me, that meant I'd take it to a drive-thru carwash every month or two. I was pretty good about it over the winter. Today was its first wash since May, and its first hand wash/wax ever.

I hated every minute of it. Pretty sure it'll be its last. Sigh.

How do you guys enjoy washing, waxing, and detailing a car when you have to look at all those chips, especially up front? This car's paint must be made out of balsa wood dust.

Terruko 09-14-2016 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2753156)
OK, you guys inspired me. I just spent three quality hours with my car, two buckets, two crappy sponges, Maguire's wheel cleaner, Maguire's car wash concentrate, and Maguire's Carnuba/Polymer blend stuff. Now I remember why I hate washing and waxing my cars so much, and why I kind of just stopped a while ago (years).

I'm too compulsive. Every little chip (pinhead size and smaller) bums me out. Washing the car, for me, is an exercise in total depression. "Crap.. where did I get THAT chip?" "I don't remember this many little paint imperfections in my {any previous German car}..." "I wonder how much it would cost to have the whole car repainted..." .. and on and on in my head. I HATE washing my car. I'd rather replace rusted rotors and calipers than wash my car.

With my newish-to-me 2013 FR-S (owned for 11 months), I decided to try and turn over a new leaf and keep it clean. My previous love (E36 325i) got washed and waxed once after I bought it used, and that was about it for the next 180K miles. Obviously, here in central NY, it eventually rusted out, but it took 10 years and that many miles. Knowing (OK, assuming) that the FR-S would probably not hold up to salt quite as well, I vowed to be a better person. Knowing me, that meant I'd take it to a drive-thru carwash every month or two. I was pretty good about it over the winter. Today was its first wash since May, and its first hand wash/wax ever.

I hated every minute of it. Pretty sure it'll be its last. Sigh.

How do you guys enjoy washing, waxing, and detailing a car when you have to look at all those chips, especially up front? This car's paint must be made out of balsa wood dust.



My car has no imperfections, it's beautiful.

new2subaru 09-14-2016 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2753156)
OK, you guys inspired me. I just spent three quality hours with my car, two buckets, two crappy sponges, Maguire's wheel cleaner, Maguire's car wash concentrate, and Maguire's Carnuba/Polymer blend stuff. Now I remember why I hate washing and waxing my cars so much, and why I kind of just stopped a while ago (years).

I'm too compulsive. Every little chip (pinhead size and smaller) bums me out. Washing the car, for me, is an exercise in total depression. "Crap.. where did I get THAT chip?" "I don't remember this many little paint imperfections in my {any previous German car}..." "I wonder how much it would cost to have the whole car repainted..." .. and on and on in my head. I HATE washing my car. I'd rather replace rusted rotors and calipers than wash my car.

With my newish-to-me 2013 FR-S (owned for 11 months), I decided to try and turn over a new leaf and keep it clean. My previous love (E36 325i) got washed and waxed once after I bought it used, and that was about it for the next 180K miles. Obviously, here in central NY, it eventually rusted out, but it took 10 years and that many miles. Knowing (OK, assuming) that the FR-S would probably not hold up to salt quite as well, I vowed to be a better person. Knowing me, that meant I'd take it to a drive-thru carwash every month or two. I was pretty good about it over the winter. Today was its first wash since May, and its first hand wash/wax ever.

I hated every minute of it. Pretty sure it'll be its last. Sigh.

How do you guys enjoy washing, waxing, and detailing a car when you have to look at all those chips, especially up front? This car's paint must be made out of balsa wood dust.

MuseChaser,

The very first thing I did with the car is spend the weekend polishing, waxing and detailing the car. It sat for a year on a lot and it was a mess...Shit happens, I don't look at all the chips. They can't be seen from 2' away!

More important, to me, is that this car is polished to a mirror like shine. You really can't see a lot of dirt, dust and grime if you have a polished paint job. Maintenance is pretty easy if you do the clear coat some justice.

Cheese doesn't shine!

MuseChaser 09-14-2016 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terruko (Post 2753261)
My car has no imperfections, it's beautiful.

Nice. I, on the other hand, drive mine... a lot. ;)

MuseChaser 09-14-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new2subaru (Post 2753269)
..... I don't look at all the chips. They can't be seen from 2' away!...

That's the thing. You're right, but I can't stop seeing them once I see them up close. It's better if I just never look at'em in the first place.

new2subaru 09-14-2016 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 2753295)
That's the thing. You're right, but I can't stop seeing them once I see them up close. It's better if I just never look at'em in the first place.

Think about it, any car that's used daily is scarred, it's expected.

Kaotic Lazagna 09-15-2016 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gello (Post 2753100)
I've always used Maguiars Gold on all my cars I've had over years. Just last week I noticed new product by them. The Ultimate Maguiars wash and wax. So far so good, suds up great! and nice shine too. Not sure if wax part actually works but I'm too lazy wax anyways lol

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I used that for a bit. Great scent. The trick to it is to lather it on, wait for it to semi dry, then rinse off. I never used it on my twin, but on my Yaris sedan, I found that every third panel, you rinse off the first, is a good amount of curing. I wouldn't substitute actual waxing with it tho, more like a wax maintainer.

86geek 09-15-2016 01:46 AM

Two bucket method for me using CarPro Reset Intensive Car Shampoo. Then to dry off the car I use Optimum Instant Detailer with a waffle weave towel.
My car has Optimum Opticoat Pro so washing my car is so effortless since the water sheets off the car. Opticoat Pro the best $400.00 I spent. ;)
No need to wax although I do once every few months with Optimum Spray wax.

radroach 09-15-2016 11:08 AM

@Gello I hate meguiar's ultimate wash and wax. It's been around for years, tried it on my BRZ once. It leaves a waxy film all over everything, degrades black plastic and rubber IMO. Much prefer deep crystal soap, gold class wash, or shampoo plus.


@MuseChaser You can fix the rock chips on your bumper using a Dr. Colorchip kit. Last year I'd spend hours on saturday mornings with a small paintbrush fixing the rock chips on my bumper. For larger paint chips I just put a small sticker / decal over it.

radroach 09-15-2016 11:13 AM

@weederr33

> He doesn't own the $50 Wheel Regimen Kit

> He doesn't use $60 Ammo Creme wax

why even try pleb :P

Gello 09-15-2016 01:22 PM

@radroach first time I seen it, oh well..btw did you wipe car down with micro towel after rinse like direction say? I Did notice film but went away as was drying left nice shine. I'll have keep eye on rear plastic now thanks for heads up. Just Be safe Im just got back to gold

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Marcbrz86 09-15-2016 04:50 PM

1. Chemical guys glossworkz 2 bucket wash with foam gun once a week
2. Dried with chemical guys waffle weave towel
3. Wiped down with meguars quick detailer and microfiber towels from chemical guys to get rid of any left over water
4. Chemical guys butter wax if it needs it, but will use a spray wax every 2 weeks


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notout86 10-06-2016 10:33 PM

Purely for WASHING I use plenty of Armorall car wash mixed with rain water ( not our mains tap water ) in an oil drain pan.

I squirt off grit first with the hose. Then I dip a broom with dense soft plastic bristles in the pan and LIGHTLY paint with the tips of the bristles and plenty of wash all over in one (front to back) direction using one stroke only. If the wash does not wet well enough to form a continuous film I add more Armorall. Each time I dip the broom in I agitate it to let dirt drop out to the bottom of the pan.
Then I squirt off before it dries.

I tip out the original wash and squirt out any dirt.

Then I repeat with fresh Armorall/rain-water, but this time I go back and forth LIGHTLY with the broom ( one direction front to back ) then squirt off the wash thoroughly before it dries, repeating the broom if I see any missed dirt and squirt that area off. The idea is to let only the tips of the bristles do the work and do not press the bristles flat so no dirt gets dragged.

Finally I throw rainwater over the lot and lightly pull a towel (one direction) over it to dry. If the towel starts to leave a bit of water-film behind, flip over, or use another. This method TRULY leaves the paint water-spotless. The only rubbing I do is on the glass but not the lights.

If the rainwater shows a lack of beading then I might apply polish/wax, but that's another story.

humfrz 10-07-2016 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notout86 (Post 2769662)
Purely for WASHING I use plenty of Armorall car wash mixed with rain water ( not our mains tap water ) in an oil drain pan.

I squirt off grit first with the hose. Then I dip a broom with dense soft plastic bristles in the pan and LIGHTLY paint with the tips of the bristles and plenty of wash all over in one (front to back) direction using one stroke only. If the wash does not wet well enough to form a continuous film I add more Armorall. Each time I dip the broom in I agitate it to let dirt drop out to the bottom of the pan.
Then I squirt off before it dries.

I tip out the original wash and squirt out any dirt.

Then I repeat with fresh Armorall/rain-water, but this time I go back and forth LIGHTLY with the broom ( one direction front to back ) then squirt off the wash thoroughly before it dries, repeating the broom if I see any missed dirt and squirt that area off. The idea is to let only the tips of the bristles do the work and do not press the bristles flat so no dirt gets dragged.

Finally I throw rainwater over the lot and lightly pull a towel (one direction) over it to dry. If the towel starts to leave a bit of water-film behind, flip over, or use another. This method TRULY leaves the paint water-spotless. The only rubbing I do is on the glass but not the lights.

If the rainwater shows a lack of beading then I might apply polish/wax, but that's another story.

DANG! ...... there, @notout86 ...... weren't you the one who was claiming that a clay bar scratched your car's paint ..... ??

Now, you say you use a BROOM to wash your car ...... :eyebulge:

Maybe an Australian broom is different from an American broom ..... :iono:


humfrz

notout86 10-08-2016 12:35 AM

I've never once used a clay bar after reading of the scratching risk. Apparently if you are super careful it need not happen but just one bit of embedded stuff could screw you. I might use it one day but I would feel for roughness and just kind of dab the clay on the spot rather than drag it over the paint. If someone produced a clay on a roller arrangement that would constantly present fresh clay to the surface then I might try it.

The broom with dense soft plastic bristles does not scratch. Originally the bristles were fluffy on their ends but the frayed ends wore off but it still does not scratch. I have tested it on an area of virgin paint. I do squirt off chunky grit first. Note that I said to use it lightly and let the tips of the bristles do the work. On horizontal surfaces I only use the weight of the broom. On vertical surfaces I apply gentle pressure such that the bristles make all the tips go away from me, then hold that gentle pressure and push the broom. If I want to pull the broom I make the tips point the other way. I only ever use it on water-wet paint so the water reduces what little immediate heat is generated by the friction in case that might melt/soften the clear coat.
As you can imagine the broom cleans a wide area with each stroke and the handle makes it easy to reach and encourages correct front to rear strokes just in case micro scratches were to occur.

I did this with our previous car for seventeen years, never used a cut and polish, waxed/polished about every 8 to 10 months, washed maybe every 3 weeks on average and it was fine.

Now, I must go and take my OCD medication :D

humfrz 10-08-2016 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notout86 (Post 2770422)
I've never once used a clay bar after reading of the scratching risk. Apparently if you are super careful it need not happen but just one bit of embedded stuff could screw you. I might use it one day but I would feel for roughness and just kind of dab the clay on the spot rather than drag it over the paint. If someone produced a clay on a roller arrangement that would constantly present fresh clay to the surface then I might try it.

The broom with dense soft plastic bristles does not scratch. Originally the bristles were fluffy on their ends but the frayed ends wore off but it still does not scratch. I have tested it on an area of virgin paint. I do squirt off chunky grit first. Note that I said to use it lightly and let the tips of the bristles do the work. On horizontal surfaces I only use the weight of the broom. On vertical surfaces I apply gentle pressure such that the bristles make all the tips go away from me, then hold that gentle pressure and push the broom. If I want to pull the broom I make the tips point the other way. I only ever use it on water-wet paint so the water reduces what little immediate heat is generated by the friction in case that might melt/soften the clear coat.
As you can imagine the broom cleans a wide area with each stroke and the handle makes it easy to reach and encourages correct front to rear strokes just in case micro scratches were to occur.

I did this with our previous car for seventeen years, never used a cut and polish, waxed/polished about every 8 to 10 months, washed maybe every 3 weeks on average and it was fine.

Now, I must go and take my OCD medication :D

I think you should kick up the dose on your OCD meds, if you think that friction from a hand held broom can "melt/soften" the clear coat .....:eyebulge:

Speaking of meds ....... I'm having a good time with my post op "pain killers" ...... I'm feeling no pain ...... :happyanim:

Besides that, I haven't had a cigarette all day and I'm a bit jjjjjjjjuuuuuummmmmmpppppyyyyyyy ........... :bonk:


humfrz - what's left of me

Packofcrows 10-09-2016 10:48 PM

Meguiars wash n wax, turtle ICE wax. Amazing combo.

I just wipe down windows normally. Here and there I use alcohol to wipe exterior of windows then a simple glass cleaner.


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