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gymratter 09-11-2016 01:20 AM

2018 Toyota Camry Spied: Normalness in a New Generation
 
A new platform sheds weight from the next Camry.

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What It Is: One heavily concealed prototype of the all-new 2018 Toyota Camry sedan.

Why It Matters: Sales for mid-size sedans like the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, and others may have waned a bit as crossovers rise in popularity, but the quietly competent Camry remains wildly popular among consumers. With more than 429,000 of them sold last year, the Camry is not only the bestselling Toyota model, it’s the bestselling passenger car in the USA. So yeah, it matters.

A new platform sheds weight from the next Camry.

What It Is: One heavily concealed prototype of the all-new 2018 Toyota Camry sedan.

Why It Matters: Sales for mid-size sedans like the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, and others may have waned a bit as crossovers rise in popularity, but the quietly competent Camry remains wildly popular among consumers. With more than 429,000 of them sold last year, the Camry is not only the bestselling Toyota model, it’s the bestselling passenger car in the USA. So yeah, it matters.

Platform: The Camry will ride on Toyota’s new TNGA modular platform that made its production debut with the 2016 Prius and which will provide the basis for about half of Toyota’s vehicles by decade’s end. The TNGA bits have done wonders to tidy up the Prius’s dynamics, so we’re cautiously optimistic for the Camry when it makes the switch as well. Weight-reduction measures also are part of the plan, and we’ve heard that aluminum is being used for the hood and sundry other places in the structure.

Obviously, this prototype doesn’t reveal much about the new production car, except that it has four wheels, some windows, and panels that tape can stick to. But the proportions look familiar; given the Camry’s leadership position in the marketplace, don’t expect the design to take too many risks. We will probably see an evolution of Toyota’s recent Angry Birds front-end styling as seen on the refreshed 2017 Corolla, a theory supported by some strong bumper contours we can make out beneath the camouflage. One interesting aspect of the new car is a dropped shoulder line beneath large side windows, bucking the industry trend of thick-waisted bodies and slit-like windows. The low shoulder appears to extend all the way back while the roof and C-pillars drape down into a flat, tapering trunk. Other noteworthy details are the low, broad chin, door-mounted side mirrors, and taillamps that mimic those of the Avalon.

Powertrain: As with most other recently redesigned mid-size sedans, it’s likely that the next-generation Camry will offer only four-cylinder engines. A naturally aspirated four-cylinder will serve as the base engine—possibly an updated version of today’s 2.5-liter engine—and, as previously reported, a derivative of the turbocharged 2.0-liter found in the Lexus NX200 crossover will replace the venerable 3.5-liter V-6 as the uplevel powerplant. The Camry hybrid again will be offered for the eco-conscious.

A TRD-tuned version is less certain, but such a model would take on Ford’s new, 325-hp Fusion Sport. Early last year, Toyota brass suggested that as part of an expansion of TRD’s role in the company, such a thing could appear in 2016, and a tasty SEMA concept provided a nice idea of how that version might look. No such Camry model has been offered previously.

Competition: Honda Accord, Mazda 6, Nissan Altima, Chevrolet Malibu, Hyundai Sonata, Ford Fusion.

Estimated Arrival and Price: The 2018 Camry will be ready for mass consumption sometime in 2017. Given the Camry’s preeminence in the U.S. market, it would make sense for it to make its official debut at America’s preeminent auto show, Detroit North American International Auto Show in January. Prices likely will not rise much, if at all, from the Camry’s current low-$20K to mid-$30K price range, as straying too far upward would threaten Toyota’s sales supremacy.
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...py-photos-news

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turtlefeeder 09-11-2016 04:56 PM

more fish face from Toyota xD

Tcoat 09-11-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlefeeder (Post 2750759)
more fish face from Toyota xD

They really are into that croppy nose thing as well.

FX86 09-12-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2750820)
They really are into that croppy nose thing as well.

https://the-cars.net/wp-content/uplo...03-876x535.jpg
http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sit...show-floor.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...hw6v7tzbku.jpg

DAEMANO 09-12-2016 12:45 PM

With exception to the silver render a couple posts up, I actually think Toyota is on the right track. Still, it'll take a few years to dial in their new design approach (much like they've done with Lexus). It's important to remember that Toyota is trying to re-energize itself from the soulless but reliable tri-boxes of the 90's and early aughts. Stylistically they're looking to the future while still trying to retain some sense of the organic.

To my eye, the worst fish faces come from the manic grins produced by Mazda.

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...p-7_600x0w.jpg

In the meanwhile Honda seems to think looking towards the future involves tacky oversized everything. In my mind Honda's designs are heading to the 1950's on a downhill slope wearing rocket skates.

http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sit...-motion-04.jpg

Tcoat 09-12-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2751298)
With exception to the silver render a couple posts up, I actually think Toyota is on the right track. Still, it'll take a few years to dial in their new design approach (much like they've done with Lexus). It's important to remember that Toyota is trying to re-energize itself from the soulless but reliable tri-boxes of the 90's and early aughts. Stylistically they're looking to the future while still trying to retain some sense of the organic.

To my eye, the worst fish faces come from the manic grins produced by Mazda.

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...p-7_600x0w.jpg

In the meanwhile Honda seems to think looking towards the future involves tacky oversized everything. In my mind Honda's designs are heading to the 1950's on a downhill slope wearing rocket skates.

http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sit...-motion-04.jpg

But mazdas looked so happy for so long. Almost toooo happy if you know what I mean

FX86 09-12-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2751449)
But mazdas looked so happy for so long. Almost toooo happy if you know what I mean

they were on drugs for a decade...now they are experiencing withdrawal symptoms

Tcoat 09-12-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2751452)
they were on drugs for a decade...now they are experiencing withdrawal symptoms

Or worse drugs.

FX86 09-12-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2751459)
Or worse drugs.

on the other hand the new 86 looks like it tasted something nasty

vh_supra26 09-12-2016 03:43 PM

Has This NASCAR Racer Revealed The Design Of The 2018 Toyota Camry?
 
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qchlySpPT...ntitled-1a.jpg

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We may have just got our first look at the upcoming 2018 Toyota Camry thanks to NASCAR's close tie-up with the automaker.

During a recent presentation with drivers, a Camry NASCAR was displayed on stage sporting a heavily-revised front fascia compared to the current car, revealing a much more aggressive and in-your-face design.

Of course, the styling adopted by NASCAR entrants slightly exaggerates those of the road cars they're inspired by but even still, some significant differences are apparent. For starters, completely revised headlights are fitted with three L-shaped LED daytime running lights incorporated into each headlight cluster.

Additionally, the 2018 Camry's grille is vastly different to the outgoing model and reminiscent in shape to the spindle grille used by Lexus. Additionally, a new set of air intakes draw further attention to the front-end.

Compared to the current model, the 2018 Camry will be drastically lighter thanks to its use of the company's modular TNGA platform. Powertrain details are sketchy but a hybrid version is inevitable as is a four-cylinder aided by a turbocharger. A naturally-aspirated 3.5-liter V6 should continue to power high-end models.
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/09/has...n-of-2018.html

DAEMANO 09-12-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2751449)
But mazdas looked so happy for so long. Almost toooo happy if you know what I mean

Seriously... this was just plain manic and slightly terrifying.

http://static.usnews.rankingsandrevi..._frontview.jpg

http://boredombash.com/wp-content/up...lfriend-15.jpg

Cole 09-12-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2751298)
With exception to the silver render a couple posts up, I actually think Toyota is on the right track. Still, it'll take a few years to dial in their new design approach (much like they've done with Lexus). It's important to remember that Toyota is trying to re-energize itself from the soulless but reliable tri-boxes of the 90's and early aughts. Stylistically they're looking to the future while still trying to retain some sense of the organic.

To my eye, the worst fish faces come from the manic grins produced by Mazda.

[IMG]http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201609/mazda-mx-5-miata-sup-7_600x0w.jpg[IMG]

In the meanwhile Honda seems to think looking towards the future involves tacky oversized everything. In my mind Honda's designs are heading to the 1950's on a downhill slope wearing rocket skates.

[IMG]http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2015/10/2016-Honda-Civic-Touring-rear-three-quarter-in-motion-04.jpg[IMG]

Indeed.

I like what Toyota is trying to do, but as you said, they need to iron it all out. I remember when Lexus did their redesigns with the giant grilles. I hated them at first, but they look great now.

FX86 09-12-2016 03:54 PM

http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aZM2jOz_700b.jpg

Hot-Lava_Dave 09-12-2016 04:33 PM

Can't wait to get my ass kicked on the road by these.....

DAEMANO 09-12-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot-Lava_Dave (Post 2751537)
Can't wait to get my ass kicked on the road by these.....

If that Camry takes you around a corner, you should have your balls revoked. :D

Hot-Lava_Dave 09-13-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2751576)
If that Camry takes you around a corner, you should have your balls revoked. :D



I'll keep you posted! :cry:

ScoobsMcGee 09-13-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2751279)

https://muppetmindset.files.wordpres...ber1.png?w=700

Maybe it's just me who sees this.

daiheadjai 09-13-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee (Post 2751969)

Wrong amphibian (reptile?)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a3...Xif2_Mb8g=w300

everythingsablur 09-13-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee (Post 2751969)

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Originally Posted by daiheadjai (Post 2752199)
Wrong amphibian (reptile?)

GASP. Fraggles are mammals sir. Or would be if they weren't muppets.

daiheadjai 09-13-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by everythingsablur (Post 2752287)
GASP. Fraggles are mammals sir. Or would be if they weren't muppets.

Assumed it was a relative of Kermit's....
Kermit's Scottish cousin.....

WolfpackS2k 09-15-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2751496)
Indeed.

I like what Toyota is trying to do, but as you said, they need to iron it all out. I remember when Lexus did their redesigns with the giant grilles. I hated them at first, but they look great now.

Ehhhhhhhhhh, Lexus's new grill treatment works on the GS, IS and RC. Questionable at best, horribly tacky at work, on the rest of the lineup.

krayzie 09-15-2016 10:18 PM

I would have never thought that Toyota designs would end up looking more and more like Oakley sunglasses.

vh_supra26 12-01-2016 05:32 PM

Toyota Teases 2018 Camry, Says “Prepare To Stare”
 
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ClljC7eP5...85C3D92CBB.jpg

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For a nameplate that has become synonymous with the automotive equivalent of ‘beige’, Toyota is sure hyped about the styling and character of its next generation sedan coming to the Detroit Auto Show in January.

On Thursday, Toyota dropped the first official teaser of the 2018 Camry revealing the rear quarter of the car. From this angle, it looks more aggressive and stylish than anything else we’ve seen from the Camry, with swooping lines, (fake) vents under the thinner LED lamps, and a boot spoiler. But then again, that doesn’t say much, as Toyota’s mid-size sedan family hasn’t exactly been on the forefront of design.

Toyota execs have high hopes for the new iteration of the Camry that will have a difficult task ahead of it, as SUVs have eroded the segment in recent years, with the RAV-4 poised to steal its sales crown in the USA for the first time ever next year.

According to Autonews, Bob Carter, senior vice president of automotive operations at Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A, told reporters at the brand’s holiday party in Detroit: “The first time that I had the opportunity to see and drive this vehicle, this was a Camry that sent chills up my back.”

Spy shots of the 2018 Camry suggest that, if anything else, the new model will look sharper and more planted on the road (see our artist’s rendition here). Under the skin, it will ride on Toyota’s TNGA modular platform that we first saw on the 2016 Prius, while a recently spied prototype hinted at the development of a hotter TRD-tuned variant with a 3.5-liter V6 pushing upwards of 300 horses. Standard models are expected to be powered by a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated four and a 2.0-liter turbocharged four from the Lexus NX and IS. A hybrid version will also be available.
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/12/toy...s-prepare.html

funwheeldrive 12-02-2016 11:50 AM

Regardless of how you feel about the new Toyotas, no one can really call them bland.

FX86 12-02-2016 01:10 PM

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pYIQuxRxR...-CarScoops.jpg

DatsunDimer 12-02-2016 01:18 PM

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This one?

Mr.Impreza 12-02-2016 01:22 PM

Based on the renderings with the silver car with front and rear photos, It seems like the Camry will be a good looking car.

Looks much more elegant and classy. Also the wheels looks very nice/

Still prefer my 2017 Accord Sport though :)
For me the 2014+ Accord Sport is the best looking Japanese sedan on the market currently.

funwheeldrive 12-02-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza (Post 2807476)
For me the 2014+ Accord Sport is the best looking Japanese sedan on the market currently.



https://tr0l0l.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/kanye-1.jpg




https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SV0gYUmRJN4/maxresdefault.jpg

Mr.Impreza 12-02-2016 02:51 PM

Yeah, the Mazda 6 is also a beautiful sedan haha
The whole Mazda line is very nice actually.

RRnold 12-02-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2807469)

If that's indeed what the Camry will look like and not a rendering, that would be a homerun in the exterior dept. :clap:

FX86 12-02-2016 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 2807665)
If that's indeed what the Camry will look like and not a rendering, that would be a homerun in the exterior dept. :clap:

kinda has that lexus IS look to it

RRnold 12-02-2016 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2807666)
kinda has that lexus IS look to it

Yeah, very Lexus, esp with the LC 500 taillight tears and headlight housing trails.

GhostRai 12-02-2016 08:29 PM

Following the CarScoop's rendering I can't help but not like the shield-like grill piece. It feels like it has too much of a snout to me. I think I'll have to reserve my judgement until the unveiling and official photos, but I do like the rear end from the teaser, seems Toyota has spent time styling both the front and rear.

Kaotic Lazagna 12-02-2016 11:58 PM

Someone leaked this Nascar some time ago:

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/bl...yota-Camry.jpg

daiheadjai 12-05-2016 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2807666)
kinda has that lexus IS look to it

Wouldn't be surprised if that grey pic was just a photo shop IS

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mazeroni 12-06-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 2807840)
Someone leaked this Nascar some time ago:

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/bl...yota-Camry.jpg

If that is its final form (sans NASCAR)... I am impressed. It is way, way, way overdone and I think it apes the Lexus design language too much, but I personally like the predator maw and overall aggressiveness.

Maybe Toyota will make it drive like it looks...

As Autoblog commented, given the declining market for the segment, designers are being given more freedom to implement crazy new tactics to try and whoo buyers.

The new Accord will probably debut in Detroit and people expect it will be a radical department from the current car, much like the new Civic was to the old.

WolfpackS2k 12-07-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2807411)
Regardless of how you feel about the new Toyotas, no one can really call them bland.

?

They look, and mechanically are, pretty bland vehicles. Appliances really.

RRnold 12-07-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni (Post 2809256)
If that is its final form (sans NASCAR)... I am impressed. It is way, way, way overdone and I think it apes the Lexus design language too much, but I personally like the predator maw and overall aggressiveness.

Maybe Toyota will make it drive like it looks...

As Autoblog commented, given the declining market for the segment, designers are being given more freedom to implement crazy new tactics to try and whoo buyers.

The new Accord will probably debut in Detroit and people expect it will be a radical department from the current car, much like the new Civic was to the old.

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 2810206)
?

They look, and mechanically are, pretty bland vehicles. Appliances really.

Very true.


They are all becoming cookie cutter and bland. Similar auto trend with American cars in the late 70's and 80's.

All the Lexus' models with that signature predator grille, Acura when all had the chevron grille, Infiniti with all of their cars starting with Q.

Gone are the distinctive names, their identity, their soul.

When I test drove the RC-F, I happen to see a small sticker next to the window sticker stating that front bumper/grille have a crash rating of 5mph. How sad is that.

funwheeldrive 12-07-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 2810206)
?

They look, and mechanically are, pretty bland vehicles. Appliances really.





I think most of them look pretty sharp, especially the C-HR.


https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mwlZ7tDpH...ota-C-HR-7.JPG


If you want bland, look at Hyundai's 2017 line-up.


http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims...-chicago-1.jpg

daiheadjai 12-09-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2810306)
I think most of them look pretty sharp, especially the C-HR.


https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mwlZ7tDpH...ota-C-HR-7.JPG


If you want bland, look at Hyundai's 2017 line-up.


http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims...-chicago-1.jpg

Toyota/Lexus have gotten flak for over a decade for being boring and bland. Now they're pushing the envelope, so it's nice to see.

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