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2017 Driven first impressions
This was a premium, since my primary goal is combining autox and dd in one. Just amazing, all what I expected, strong, responsive and gorgeous.
2nd gear goes uo to 57 mph, not too bad eith revised gear ratio;3rd to 80 mph. Did not buy it yet , the offered nothing for my trade and did not have the blue one I wanted. Loved the rear spoiler and the front. Andres |
Have you driven a zenki model (2013-2016)?
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2017 MT Test Drive impression
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussZRLV8eMA"]–ž‹‚ƒƒBRZに試—！ - YouTube[/ame] 4K interior/exterior [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyT6i9sfg-M"]4K –ž‹ ‚ƒƒBRZ S(MT) ƒ‡‚ƒ†ƒƒ‚’ƒ‚ƒƒ‚！ - YouTube[/ame] Quick Key translation, around dead center steering feels is less vague, Car doesn't move around after taking a turn like the old one. more smooth power...pretty much things we all know?... he said hand break feels different but maybe just him. >__> |
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Does the new one have sequential tails? I think it looks like they could be, but I haven't seen a vid of the turn signal on.
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they were selling this one at $26220 , this particular Premium one had a red intake manifold , look really nice.. this is the link but the one shown in the pic is a limited look at the foglights (not present on the Premium) http://www.westhoustonsubaru.com/new...4aa1115e30.htm Andres |
It's got a more aggressive gear in the rear. It's going to have slightly better acceleration.
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Shortest review ever :/
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remember that time the ap1 and ap2 had the same SAE rating but were 15 peak hp apart?
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...yno-comparison |
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I think once we get a stock zenki and a stock kouki model on the same dyno, you'll be able to see the wheel HP difference. Quote:
The 2017 cars dyno more to the wheels. Functionally speaking, the 2017 has better factory headers, better tune, better intake, and a more aggressive final drive. Peak HP may be the same but total area under the curve will be much, much better. Let's make a wager on it. $50 Starbucks card? |
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I can't wait to test drive one though. |
Fuck me dead I want that steering wheel!
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Multiple reviews have noticed very little difference. The butt dyno is usually biased and not reliable. It is likely incrementally better. For DD it is likely not a big change, if you are autox or tracking probably better to start your mod with a 2017, but not necessarily if you get a 2013 on the cheap.
If you are a due a new car than get a 2017, but if you like your older one, keep it. |
Glad I ran into this thread. I wanted to see in person how the 2017 looks before committing into one. Although it seems it'll be til much later this year before you can get one with the track pack.
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i.e. stock OD 24.7 - 225/40-18 = 25.1. i think 225/45-17 is 25+ as well. |
I dropped a friend off at my local Subie dealer today to pick up a legacy he bought and lo and behold they had a 2017 berz on the lot. It was the lesser trim package (whatever they call it now) so no cool multi-function display. I sat in it, played with a few thins and got to feel the interior bits for quality.
Thoughts: 1.) New panels material is OK. It's not a huge upgrade, or maybe even an upgrade at all. It feels a little bit nicer but there is no padding to it so it doesn't feel as premium as perhaps you might expect. 2.) Saw the steering wheel and was convinced I would have to swap it ... until I touched it. The leather wrap is OK - but again not as soft as it looks like it should be. And even bigger for me was the plastic molding at the 9-3 on the back protrudes more than the 13'-16' wheel. TO ME it was less comfortable as I couldn't close my grasp as much as I like to - others may have no issue. The new plastic on the button surround was just getting in the way. Couple of pics ... Yes, there is piano black: http://i.imgur.com/oCIA7gh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AMMY2Oy.jpg Door panels and dash panel are now a NEW kind of fake leather but still much better than silver plastic: http://i.imgur.com/6MecQ2H.jpg and also ... I couldn't overlook the blank wheel buttons on this trim. Pretty brutal since they are so hard to overlook. My guess is that they didn't want it not to be symmetrical so maybe this was the lesser of two evils: http://i.imgur.com/yMImhRL.jpg |
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The plastic covers are ugly. Why bother with steering wheel buttons to begin with?
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does anyone make CF vinyl overlay for that horrible piano black panel?
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http://images.hgmsites.net/med/2004-...00294495_m.jpg Much less fussy, easier to reach instinctively, and when the printed lettering eventually wears of the buttons (it always does), you are not left with an ugly worn-out buttons staring you in your face. One great thing about the original FR-S/BRZ is that (aside from the "coin tray"/ seat heater space that is easily remedied with a plaque), even the lower trim line vehicles look "complete" on the interior. |
Glad I didn't order a premium. Those blanks would've annoyed me to no end.
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I'll have to see it in person, but I don't like the look of the new leather they used on the door panels.
The leather on the current models is textured and matches the rest of the interior plastic. The smooth leather looks cheap and out of place. I feel the same way about material used on the steering wheel. The original is perforated and looks purpose built. It almost seems like a lot of these changes were made for the sake of being new instead of adding functionality or practicality (Like that piano black dash trim) |
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This New BRZ is at best, a WRX interior imho. That piano Black is straight from the WRX,Crosstek etc. in terms of Interior user experience, and how they did things, the twin lag behind the others. This is speaking from the view if you were a mass consumer and not an enthusiast. Honestly if they gave us to option to choose the none button steering wheel in the lower models, we probably wouldn't be having these issues with it. |
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Exactly, at this point we're just splitting hairs. The interior has always been a low priority for these cars. All of these pieces are relatively easy to change. Anyone buying a new BRZ will have plenty of OEM parts to pick from if it bugs them that much. |
Going by the hi-res images in the Canadian 2017 BRZ official brochure, we get none of the piano black trim here (and the HU itself is matte black) - looks much better without it. Plus the red lettering and backlighting for the HU knob and buttons nicely matches the red used for the HVAC etc. It still looks aftermarket, but at least well-matched aftermarket.
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SMH, I really don't know why they chose to make that right set of buttons the LCD control. It could've easily have been just controlled with a cluster control stem like other cars. It's not like that LCD has THAT much functionality that it requires the four arrows. Then they could've just dedicated those right buttons for cruise and gotten rid of the early 90s cruise control stalk on the side. IMHO, they really went the cheap route on this. That gauge LCD screen is nothing but a small 5" rectangular screen with the bezel covering it. Looks like someone took apart a cluster, cut a section of the overlay for a cell phone screen, then put it back together. Then they found left over steering wheel controls and jury rigged it all together. It's frustrating because only a few simple decisions would've made the final product much more complete. :( |
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I think the smooth leather would have worked better if it were another color like baseball glove brown for example.
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