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Grace 07-08-2012 09:03 AM

Need advices on parking sensors
 
I know I am sounding like a noob, but when I was test driving the FR-S, I found that the visibility wasn't that great...
I know FR-S is a small car but I want to baby it a little while I am getting used to the car.
I haven't got my car yet, but I am considering to install some parking sensors (possibly front and rear).
But I bargained a little, my dealer is offering me both front and rear parking sensors for around $1000, sounded like I still getting ripped off.
Also, the sensors they will be putting in are ultrasonic sensors which requires drilling... I am kind of reluctant to drill holes on my brand new 86.

I have done some researches and found that there is a electromagnetic sensor which doesn't require drilling. Anyone has any experiences on that?
Any DIY advices?

Would love to hear some opinion on this matter?

Rossman 07-08-2012 09:48 AM

http://www.antilaser.ca/

It's a parking sensor, I swear, officer!

j/k

Grace 07-08-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 302507)
http://www.antilaser.ca/

It's a parking sensor, I swear, officer!

j/k

haha Interesting find =]

Any serious advices?

chulooz 07-08-2012 10:14 AM

Pony up the bills if you are afraid to park... no whining allowed. :happy0180:

Rossman 07-08-2012 10:15 AM

I just searched Consumer Reports and they don't have any "Ratings" for sensors but they do have an overview article which makes most systems sound pretty lackluster, as most of them appear to require drilling :(

Hopefully someone else here will have some better information.

Flat Black VW 07-08-2012 05:33 PM

any decent system will need drilling. I have installed the no drill ones and they are always shitty and/or break/fall off easily.

$1000 is definitely very pricey. I work at a fairly expensive car audio shop and I only charge $450 for 4 rear sensors painted to match the vehicle and $250 for 2 fronts. if you do both its only $600. These are the prices I hold when installing on porsche/maserati/land rovers/bmw ect., so if they say its a premium for a difficult car they are just trying to take your money.

Grace 07-09-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 302921)
any decent system will need drilling. I have installed the no drill ones and they are always shitty and/or break/fall off easily.

$1000 is definitely very pricey. I work at a fairly expensive car audio shop and I only charge $450 for 4 rear sensors painted to match the vehicle and $250 for 2 fronts. if you do both its only $600. These are the prices I hold when installing on porsche/maserati/land rovers/bmw ect., so if they say its a premium for a difficult car they are just trying to take your money.

Thank you for your advice!!:thumbsup:
It is nice to hear from someone who has experience using both.
When I was doing some research online, I noticed that Audi uses the non-drill solution, which is very tempting not having to damage the bumper. A little bit of me is resisting from drilling holes on a brand new car.

It sounded like I am getting robbed by my dealer. I will definitely have to look for solution elsewhere.
Would FR-S be considered a "difficult car"? Does Toyota provide drill hole positions? Hole drilling is not something I can afford to mess up

Flat Black VW 07-09-2012 03:57 PM

Since we technically do these as aftermarket systems, although we do them on mostly brand new cars for dealerships who add them as a factory option for the customer for financing, none of ours come with drill hole positions or templates, we simply measure them out and mark the spots before drilling.

I would definitely not consider the FR-S a difficult car. There is plenty of room behind the bumper and running wires through this car is cake. What I consider a difficult car and would have to upcharge for would be a Lamborghini, Ferrari, Mclaren, Ect. These are cars where I must run wires past an engine, they have minimal room behind the bumpers, and panels inside the car are a PITA to take apart properly. Even with these difficulties it simply takes more time and I still would only be at around $600 to install rear sensors on these cars.

Turbowned 07-09-2012 04:42 PM

I wouldn't waste the money. My car has parking sensors and I never use them. The car has less outward visibility than the FR-S and is a lot bigger, too.

Bonburner 07-09-2012 04:53 PM

I'd consider them for the rear - not used to reverse parking yet :/

Fenrir 07-09-2012 06:29 PM

The car is tiny, if you need sensors to help you park.... You're probably not buying the right car.

Getting a gimmick to overcompensate instead of actually learning the proper way is one of the reasons drivers are continuing to worsen.

DIE1000DEATHS 07-09-2012 07:58 PM

Get added value and install an in-dash screen with back-up cam... Audio upgrade and parking assist!

sesmls 07-09-2012 08:08 PM

I just bought ordered one of these to warn me of impending doom to the lower front of my car:
http://www.southerncarparts.com/curb-alert-p-3474.html

They make a version with a smaller sensor for $259.00 or this one for $159.00

jcs 07-09-2012 09:23 PM

I'll save you some money:
http://www.thehotrodgirl.com/curbfeelers.html

Grace 07-09-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 304532)
Since we technically do these as aftermarket systems, although we do them on mostly brand new cars for dealerships who add them as a factory option for the customer for financing, none of ours come with drill hole positions or templates, we simply measure them out and mark the spots before drilling.

I would definitely not consider the FR-S a difficult car. There is plenty of room behind the bumper and running wires through this car is cake. What I consider a difficult car and would have to upcharge for would be a Lamborghini, Ferrari, Mclaren, Ect. These are cars where I must run wires past an engine, they have minimal room behind the bumpers, and panels inside the car are a PITA to take apart properly. Even with these difficulties it simply takes more time and I still would only be at around $600 to install rear sensors on these cars.

Thank you very much!
I am feeling very well informed =]

Grace 07-09-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesmls (Post 304993)
I just bought ordered one of these to warn me of impending doom to the lower front of my car:
http://www.southerncarparts.com/curb-alert-p-3474.html

They make a version with a smaller sensor for $259.00 or this one for $159.00

I haven't seen this before.

But, how is this different from a parking sensor?

Curb feelers?... no thanks... the car will look handicapped.

Bairex 07-10-2012 12:53 AM

Parking sensors
 
I have installed the ultrasonic type on my Mazda. I will on the BRZ once I get it. The sensors have saved me from being hit and from hitting others backing out of a parking lot.

Furthermore, I can't count the number of time that small kids on a parking lot, barely tall enough to be seen thru the rear windshield have crossed behind my car and the sensors have detected them.

Yes, I had to drill. You have to be very careful, you only have one shot at this. Where you locate them will also affect how they perform.
I got mine from this place: http://www.carsensors.com/Home.html . They sell them painted to match the bumper.

sesmls 07-10-2012 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grace (Post 305431)
I haven't seen this before.

But, how is this different from a parking sensor?

Curb feelers?... no thanks... the car will look handicapped.

This is a parking sensor, but doesn't require drilling holes in your bumper...the sensor mounts with adhesive (or however else you want to mount it) behind the grille, low to the ground. You set the angle of the sensor and it gives you a warning (which can be muted) when the front of your car gets too close to a curb or post.

poudre 07-10-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs (Post 305149)


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Alfalasy 06-13-2013 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesmls (Post 304993)
I just bought ordered one of these to warn me of impending doom to the lower front of my car:
http://www.southerncarparts.com/curb-alert-p-3474.html

They make a version with a smaller sensor for $259.00 or this one for $159.00

I find this very useful especially with an extended lowered front lip

Demandred7 06-13-2013 06:12 AM

I was going to say back up camera, but, really, the car is so small how do you need sensors to park? Maybe it is the fact that my dad really engrained into me to know the size of the vehicle that I am driving, but honestly, the FR-S is one of the easiest cars to park that I have ever owned. No disrespect.

Ryuu0u 06-13-2013 10:10 AM

I'd say save your money and just be more attentive. Like others said this car fairly small. Most parking spaces I have almost 6in-1foot on each side and parallel parking I can fit in quite comfortably. Just use your judgement and you'll be fine.

Stryker 06-13-2013 12:46 PM

The $1,000 figure is cheap, sort of.

If you want to get the OEM Park assist that is available in Australia, for the parts (uninstalled) you're looking at ~950 USD. Plus you would need to get it shipped. This is the price for front and rear, but honestly...just get a back up camera and be done. This car is not hard to park from what I've experienced (test driven it twice).

zaptorque 06-13-2013 01:08 PM

I have some parking sensors....they're called my eyes.

root 06-13-2013 06:01 PM

Well, I just backed into the end of a chainlink fence with the right rear corner. Was pretty sickened when I heard it. I'm still not used to the additional width of the FR-S I guess. Should have moved the sideview mirror, but it was night in a poorly light spot so probably wouldn't have helped much. Oh well, first major scratch. A lot of it buffed out and it was all on the plastic so no dent damage. I'm going to live with it, not worth going to paint shop for.
The FRS like lots of cars nowadays has pretty high rear deck so I can see some value in sensors.
But you have to wonder when you see Smart cars with backup sensors, these people would need backup sensors on their butts!

mrlewistan 06-13-2013 07:18 PM

might i suggest a rearview camera? most mount just on your licesnse plate frame. Plus good excuse to get an aftermarket headunit. Some headunits even offer two channel camera inputs so you can mount a tiny cam up front too

FRiSson 06-13-2013 10:29 PM

Rear view license plate cam (bluetooth or not) is a better deal.


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