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earthsscum 07-08-2012 04:36 AM

who's delivering pizzas!?
 
I know someone is doing it! Post your new ride here with custom pizza decal! (+5hp)

beirouty 07-08-2012 09:33 AM

what ?

Calidrifter 07-08-2012 09:35 AM

Someone must have delivered a pizza in an fr-s/brz...

chulooz 07-08-2012 09:47 AM

Please PM me ASAP if you can afford this car with pizza boy pay! haha

earthsscum 07-08-2012 11:17 AM

i've seen sti and evos and more expensive cars delivering pizzas

Dadhawk 07-08-2012 12:06 PM

First weekend I had it I picked up 10 pizzas for a church youth group and delivered them. Does that count?

TOMIMOTO 07-08-2012 12:54 PM

I deliver tofu.

Rampage 07-08-2012 01:09 PM

If you have to take on a second job delivering pizza to make your car payment then you should not have bought the car.


That is the only way I can see this car being used for that. Oh, unless mommy and daddy bought you the car but are making you pay the insurance.

earthsscum 07-09-2012 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 302597)
First weekend I had it I picked up 10 pizzas for a church youth group and delivered them. Does that count?

not quite, looking more of a primary or secondary means of income and a picture of attached goods

#87 07-09-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 302653)
If you have to take on a second job delivering pizza to make your car payment then you should not have bought the car.


That is the only way I can see this car being used for that. Oh, unless mommy and daddy bought you the car but are making you pay the insurance.

I work a second job to make my car payment, what is the problem with that? And my mommy pays my rent technically since I live at home rent free.

???

Dave-ROR 07-09-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 303980)
There is no problem with that. Its just someone talking to talk. Don't sweat it. Guys probably a tool in person, so of course he needs to be 10x the tool online.

I know A lot of people who make 80k a year and still take on 2nd jobs just because they don't like having a ton a free time and like making money. One of my best friends makes 70k a year, and delivers pizza on Sundays in his 2012 STI. Some people like to work...

Rampage's post wasn't against taking on a second job because someone wants to, it was against financial irresponsibility and people living beyond their means. Encouraging such behavior is part of the reason we have so many people deeply in debt in this country.

I've thought about 2nd jobs before too, doing things I'm passionate about compared to my 9-5 job, but never so I could afford my car note.

Exhaust 07-09-2012 10:23 AM

Im actually considering a second job just because I get sick of staying home. Not because I need the money, but Im single, dont know anyone, dont like being a bum, and a very hard worker. So why not put the time to good use and make some extra dollars... an extra $1300 a month in play money if I take second job.... just sayin, im interested.

Camotec 07-09-2012 10:25 AM

Not only that but people have to support their families etc. especially if they are a single income family. If someone wants to work 2 jobs so they can have a nice car i say there should be more like them. I also fail to see how that relates to financial irresponsibility.

Draco-REX 07-09-2012 10:57 AM

On both sides of the argument:

There's a difference between being able to AFFORD a car, and being able to make the payments. Those who just make the payments either end up with an ill-maintained junker after a while, or something happens and they can't make the payments and the car is repo'd and they end up in debt.

On the flipside of that, it is perfectly financially responsible to work multiple jobs to afford the things you want. It is irresponsible to use credit cards and other forms of delayed payment to "afford" what you want.

There are varying degrees to this argument.

Dave-ROR 07-09-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 304004)
Um, no.. We have so many people deeply in debt in this country because the economy crashed as well as the job market. There is an accepted difference between being in debt, and financing something. Our economy will never touch what is was in the late 80s/90s but guess what? People still financed then.

If you choose to work 2 jobs in order to afford a specific lifestyle, how is that living beyond ones means?

Not to mention you don't know anything about this guy, his financial status, or anything else.

Many people were in massive debt well before the job market/economic collapse. I know no one who was not in debt before the collapse are are in debt now. Everyone I know who has debt (which I don't include installment accounts in so much) was in debt well before the collapse as well.

If you choose to work two jobs, that's fine, if you HAVE to get a second job to pay your car note then you WERE living beyond your means.

There's no need to take Rampage's post out of context which was simply if you are forced to get another job because you realized that you couldn't afford the car then you shouldn't have purchased the car.

Dave-ROR 07-09-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Camotec (Post 304027)
Not only that but people have to support their families etc. especially if they are a single income family. If someone wants to work 2 jobs so they can have a nice car i say there should be more like them. I also fail to see how that relates to financial irresponsibility.

If things were that tight for me I'd be driving a 90s accord (or whatever) instead of having a $400/month car payment. Family and other financial responsibilities come so far before owning an FRS/BRZ it's not even close.

I'm all for people working for what they want though.

Dave-ROR 07-09-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 304070)
On both sides of the argument:

There's a difference between being able to AFFORD a car, and being able to make the payments. Those who just make the payments either end up with an ill-maintained junker after a while, or something happens and they can't make the payments and the car is repo'd and they end up in debt.

On the flipside of that, it is perfectly financially responsible to work multiple jobs to afford the things you want. It is irresponsible to use credit cards and other forms of delayed payment to "afford" what you want.

There are varying degrees to this argument.

Agree 100% with this.

Snoopyalien24 07-09-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 304081)
If things were that tight for me I'd be driving a 90s accord (or whatever) instead of having a $400/month car payment. Family and other financial responsibilities come so far before owning an FRS/BRZ it's not even close.

I'm all for people working for what they want though.

Sorry for thread jacking but whoa whoa whoaaaaa!

Dave MR Raised On Rice has an avatar pic D:

As the great Keanu Reeves would say, "Whoa"

Rampage 07-09-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 304077)
There's no need to take Rampage's post out of context which was simply if you are forced to get another job because you realized that you couldn't afford the car then you shouldn't have purchased the car.


Exactly my point. People are buying the car now. Well, since June. The financial crisis of 2006-2010 has already happened. It is not catching anyone by surprise now. If you are in bad shape financially then you should not spend 25K on a car.

I raised 4 kids. I gave them money for their first car. A used one. I am there to bail them out when things get too bad but I expect them to make it on their own. They will appreciate the things the have much more if they earn it. I advise them on fiscal restraint and living within their means.

If someone WANTS to work a second job to fill their time then I stand corrected. If someone HAS to work a second job to pay for their new sports car then they should not have bought the car. If your mom is paying your rent but you have a fancy car then shame on you.

Dave-ROR 07-09-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 304102)
There is no difference between working 2 jobs and working 1 job. Its YOUR income no matter which way you look at it. Someone working 1 job, at 40 hours a week making 80k a year, is no different than someone working 2 jobs, at 40 hours a week each, making 40k a year each. Their incomes are both 80k a year.

What your saying is that the guy working 2 jobs, cant live the same lifestyle as the guy working 1 job, because he needs both his jobs in order to do so? So 40 hour a week guy can live within the means of 80k a year, but 80 hour a week guy has to live within 40k a year or else hes living beyond his means?

Again, you are missing Rampage's point. I commend people for working two jobs if they want to!

However, this is the timeline that Rampage was referring to:
1. Person works one job.
2. Person buys BRZ without really analyzing whether or not they can truely AFFORD the car.
3. Person realizes they can't and rushes to find a second job because they were living beyond their means.

Your scenario (which I have absolutely no problem with) is:
1. Person works two jobs to afford what they want.
2. Person buys what they want because they know they can afford it.

See the difference?

I'm done with this topic since I'm not sure you'll ever understand what Rampage's actual point was in the first place.

feedbag 07-09-2012 11:30 AM

For the love of god can someone post a picture of their car with a pizza thing on it so this shitty derail can end?

Dave-ROR 07-09-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by feedbag (Post 304112)
For the love of god can someone post a picture of their car with a pizza thing on it so this shitty derail can end?

LOL since as far as we know no one is actually delivering pizzas in their BRZ I think you'll be waiting.

Maybe I can go visit papa johns and borrow a sign :P

Rampage 07-09-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justaquestion (Post 304102)
There is no difference between working 2 jobs and working 1 job. Its YOUR income no matter which way you look at it. Someone working 1 job, at 40 hours a week making 80k a year, is no different than someone working 2 jobs, at 40 hours a week each, making 40k a year each. Their incomes are both 80k a year.

What your saying is that the guy working 2 jobs, cant live the same lifestyle as the guy working 1 job, because he needs both his jobs in order to do so? So 40 hour a week guy can live within the means of 80k a year, but 80 hour a week guy has to live within 40k a year or else hes living beyond his means?

You know what? I agree with you. You are right. But at some time in our life you will discover that time is more important than money. Time is the one thing that you can not buy, beg, borrow or steal one more minute of than what is allotted to you. Take it from a guy who survived cancer. Cherish every minute you have and spend ever minute wisely.

Shiny things are not worth sacrificing your life for.

I will get off my soapbox now and shut up.

engee 07-09-2012 12:05 PM

:sigh:

It's threads like these that make me happy that our economy isn't further down the toilet than it should be.

earthsscum 07-09-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feedbag (Post 304112)
For the love of god can someone post a picture of their car with a pizza thing on it so this shitty derail can end?

this guy took the words from me!

i'll give my .02 though

by NO means did I mean this thread to insult anyone delivering pizzas, I assume by having this car you are financially responsible and that its simply extra income and busy work...

unless.... you own a pizza joint AND deliver pizzas then more power to you:happy0180:

Skyhound 07-09-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 304109)
If your mom is paying your rent but you have a fancy car then shame on you.

Why shame on them? Rent is expensive and if you're saving money by living with your parents then the money that would have gone towards rent can go towards a fancy car. Otherwise, why would you get a job in the first place? My childhood friends and I have been saving up money since we were children to buy our first cars. We all bought sports cars or cars that we heavily modified and insured them ourselves without any help from our parents. We were responsible with them and took very good care of them. Only one of us got a ticket for a loud muffler which he promptly put a silencer on after learning it was against the law. We had nicer cars than our teachers, is that really so bad?

Also what about people who knows it would take a second job to afford an FR-S/BRZ and openly accept that and get a second job? I don't see that as financially irresponsible, but playing with the hand your dealt. It only becomes irresponsible if your family is starving or your about to be evicted.

WRXGuy1 07-09-2012 02:52 PM

I actually drove my '09 WRX when I was delivering pizza, and I debated going back to work there as a second job delivering in my BRZ, haha

engee 07-09-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyhound (Post 304211)
Also what about people who knows it would take a second job to afford an FR-S/BRZ and openly accept that and get a second job? I don't see that as financially irresponsible, but playing with the hand your dealt. It only becomes irresponsible if your family is starving or your about to be evicted.

Maybe it's just me, but the fact that you know you have to get a second job in order to afford something, should be a big factor telling you that it might not be the best idea.

Playing with the hand that you are dealt would be managing what your current income is and finding things that would fit that income. Saying to yourself that you can afford something if you do XYZ to do so is how the mortgage backed security fiasco started. People thought they could afford million dollar homes with an annual salary of $40,000 thinking that times will always be good. Yes, some banks are to blame because they gave out the loans. However, the people that took the loans should use some common sense too.

Regardless, I digress but there are so many other things to consider:
-lose one job, goodbye car
-work over 40 hour weeks, goodbye health
-use all your money on car, goodbye social life and other activities

The list can go on and on...

Now the smart thing to do is to save up and buy the car at later date. That is the fiscally responsible move.

At the end of the day, it's still the individual's decision but my opinion is that taking a second job just to afford a car is just a dumb decision.

Now back on topic, :needpics:

manonastick 07-09-2012 03:48 PM

How is it irresponsible to get a second job to pay off something you like?. Being irresponsible is buying something you can't afford using a loan or sacrificing something in order to get something.

I have seen people drive evo/sti delivering pizzas and my friends keep telling me about it lol.

Turbowned 07-09-2012 03:50 PM

There's a kid near me who delivers pizzas in an '09 WRX...

I work two jobs and live with my mother. If I wasn't making a rent payment's worth of school loan payments every month, I might consider an apartment. When my loans are paid off, I will. My mother also doesn't want me to leave because she's single and there would be no one around to take care of the upkeep on the house. She works two jobs also, so we are rarely home at the same time. We live in a really nice $3/4M home right now, so why would I want to move into a shitty apartment right away? I help her with some bills and take care of the upkeep, so the rest of my money can go towards cars.

Annnnd I lease a $53k Audi S4... so suck it! LOL

OrbitalEllipses 07-09-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 302653)
That is the only way I can see this car being used for that. Oh, unless mommy and daddy bought you the car but are making you pay the insurance.

Nothing wrong with that; a hint of jealousy perhaps?

ZmZMWagon 07-09-2012 03:55 PM

I was delivering parts for Harry........before Vin Diesel fired me :(

Turbowned 07-09-2012 03:58 PM

Good help is hard to find these days! ;)

OrbitalEllipses 07-09-2012 03:58 PM

Street's closed pizza boy!

On the serious, you should really heed any manifold pressure warnings.

ZmZMWagon 07-09-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 304534)
Good help is hard to find these days! ;)

lol.......

AlanLGuy 07-09-2012 04:28 PM

Anyone who would be willing to put one of those giant magnetic pizza delivery signs on their brand new FR-S/ BRZ should be shot!

Those WILL scratch the shit out of the roof of the car if both magnets and your car aren't incredibly clean. And the window ones don't fit well on cars without a top door frame.

I delivered in my Celica GT-S years ago and while I enjoyed it for a while I wish I hadnt ever done it. The smell sucks, every extra minute on the road increases the chance of an accident, especially all the local driving, and I can tell you all the in and out makes a noticeable difference in the rate of wear on the car, especially things like seats, doorstops and the clutch/synchros

Delivering pizzas seems like a great job if you love driving the car, but it does get tedious and in the end isn't worth the wear and tear on the vehicle


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