3 years in, more than surface rust
 

Anyone else having this problem?

http://i.imgur.com/SekUcaa.jpg

I live in Wichita, it snows like twice a year here. Car is garaged every night. I have never sprayed down the engine bay.

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Pull it up and check if it's migrated. That looks like the hood seal strip, which is removable. If that's the case, just buy another one.



I have some rust near my headlights in one of the bolt holes. Not too concerned as it's not near any panel that's not easily replaced.

Nope... No problem with my car... 3 yrs and 11 months already...

Yup, my hood seal strip was like that when I bought the car, way worse than yours, no rust underneath though.
just replace it (it's ~$15 IIRC) and spray some Boeshield T9 on the new one.

Always keep an eye on the hood seal. Apparently these things are flimsy; I've seen cars with them all bunched up and crunched under the hood, or sticking out.

Mine was folded the one time after I closed the hood and I noticed the next day.

So you're saying my hood seal is messed up which allowed water to get in and caused that under paint rust?

The hood seal looks fine when inspected. At this point I gotta clean up that rust as well. Not sure what the underside looks like.

I'll admit I can't see your picture because I'm at work and the firewall blocked it.

I was just piggy-backing on previous comments regarding the hood seal, as I've seen multiple cars where it's all janked and probably not doing it's job properly.

It looks like the front bumper on your car has been removed and repainted. The texture on the bumper doesn't look factory and it looks like when that bolt was removed maybe some paint broke and it started corroding. It's just surface rust though, try removing the bolt and cleaning it up and dabbing some paint on there.

I was looking at a used 2013 BRZ for sale last week and saw the same rust spot. Seems like every car has a a few trouble spots. Maybe this is it for the BRZ and FRS.

You do realize that the spot is on a light tin bolt in part not the body of the car right? I do agree that most cars have a spot but we could be years away from knowing where it is.

Totaled

:bonk:

It's not that it is "totaled", it is more of a worry of things to come. I figured when I posted this that I would get plenty of the "86-can-do-no-wrong"ers on here. Bubbly paint rust on a car after 3 years is pretty unacceptable in my opinion but we are all entitled to our own opinions. :iono:

How funny. I had mine apart and cleaned everything just yesterday. Plenty of inexpensive hardware on this car. The shoulder bolts are self tapping. They do rust into the clip so I suggest carefully backing them out. Reverse them a lot and use plenty of wd-40.

Metal rusts, this is an indisputable fact of nature so welcome to reality. The part in question is a light tin strip with hardly any paint that has the sole function of holding a piece of rubber in place. It is not a body panel or any other form of structural component and the fact it has a rust spot on it is meaningless. You are presenting as if your fender is going to fall off at any second when the reality is not even close.
I took a huge stone hit to my fender 2 weeks after I got the car and decided as an experiment to leave it bare. After two years and two very salty Ontario winters it is just now starting to develop a slight coating of surface rust.
These are not 1980s Dodge Omnis that rusted out in a year if you passed through a sprinkler and one spot on a cheap sub, sub, sub component is not an indication of "things to come".
Come back and show us when your rocker panel or wheel well edges start bubbling and maybe you will get some sympathy.

Yep, we'll see, one of us will be eating our words for sure, only time will tell. I am sure you'll still be a condescending prick regardless of the outcome.

Thread has been done for days. I posted to see if this was a common problem other people were having, it's not.

Seems you just posted yesterday so not sure how the thread was "done". That many people stated it was a bolt on part and not indicative of body rust seems to have aggravated you somehow and you felt a need to be derogative. You are correct. Time will tell but let's not get everybody all worked up over a $15 tin strip shall we?

Need to grow a thicker skin. Everyone's rusts. People just don't sweat it.

Looks at brake discs

Sees rust


seppuku

Yep, getting people worked up... "Sky is falling" post right there.

My last post before @DAEMANO posted "Totaled" was 8/22... Sure, I responded to his "Totaled" post because I thought it was a pretty **** move in what had been a very serious thread up till then.

Honestly, I can take the car for what it is. I like my car. My post wasn't "OMG CAR RUSTING SELL NOW BURN TO GROUND!"

I thought the whole thread was pretty reasonable, a picture and asking if anyone else had the issue. Everyone had nice, constructive responses until you guys came on board like the 86 mafia or something. "Someone said something bad about the 86 guys, get your pitchforks and torches, we gonna be internet hangin' some chump today." :paddle:

But we didn't. I don't see anything but some lighthearted ribbing. I'm the first guy to move on when a thread gets mean spirited. I hate that stuff.

This is going to get worse for you because you're twisting on the hook.

Aww don't be all like that and everything. We wouldn't joke with you if we didn't love you. Look, truth is, in your pic it's a tiny bit of surface rust on an inconsequential part after a few years. If it's bugging you, scrub it off, repaint the area and it'll be fine. What others are trying to say, is that all cars rust a little and not to be worried. Its totally fine. :thumbup:

Now seriously, go look at your brakes. :D

I don't see any "ribbing", light or not. I called out @Tcoat on his condescending attitude and post. (you disagree that it is?) That's the closest thing to "ribbing" I see.

I don't like being talked down to because I find bubbling paint to be a concern on a 3-year old car. Structural or not. I find the answer of "just deal with it" to be pretty shitty.

@Ultramaroon you're one of the only people that actually offered a real solution. Thank you for that.

I just have no patience on this forum anymore for 86 white knights that take every problem with the car and say "don't worry about it". My hope in the original post was that other people had this problem and someone could give some advice on fixing it, like sanding and repainting. Several people did. Those people make this community better. "Cars rust, deal with it homie." Is not constructive.

Not even in the same ball park. Rust that has started bubbling paint is hardly surface rust. If left unchecked, it will rust that piece out. Rotors are untreated steel, they are intended to get a layer of surface rust. That painted support is not intended to rust. Especially not under the paint.

Well, you asked people's opinion in an open forum and got it. If it didn't reinforce yours, that happens occasionally. It's the way of the world. Try to take it easy and enjoy your time here DylanFRS. :thumbsup:

I responded what appeared to be a slur to those that contributed earlier and the fact you repeated it confirms my suspicion that it was.


The response to many of those little problems is indeed "don't worry about it". Many a person has had their mind set to ease about something by the responses here.


Your original post did not ask what you could do and your last one just complains that it is unacceptable with the indication you feel time will tell how bad the whole car will rust.


My statement did not say "deal with it" anyplace. Cars do rust. Always have. Always will. You still seem to maintain that the rust on a little strip is indicative that the whole car is doomed. I simply stated that is not true.


Did you really need to have somebody tell you to sand and repaint it?


You come on like a freight train at a simple "totaled" joke and then cry foul when you get responses to your sarcasm?

Okay, thanks for your help guys. I'll let you know what I decide to do about the rust. :thanks:

Serious response do not take as sarcasm!


Or pick up a new one for $8


http://parts.lakelandtoyota.com/p/__...U00301396.html

I think it's this part.

http://parts.lakelandtoyota.com/p/__...U00305827.html

Yep you are correct. The one I had was just the rubber seal. I misread the diagram. Anybody interested needs part #5 not #7. Still cheap.


And for the record mine looks WAY worse than the picture.

Oh yeah, for sure. If mine rusted beyond the point of serviceability I'd probably replace what they call the radiator support tie bar. I bet for anyone in the rust belt, those shoulder bolts will be frozen solid.

http://parts.lakelandtoyota.com/p/Sc...U00301365.html

Also reasonably priced.

Hey - just a small heads up. Parking your car in the garage isn't always the best to avoid corrosion. When you park outside the car does not rust below 0C (32F), however when you bring the car in a heated garage it can.
What essentially happens to a lot of daily driver cars is people fill them with salt driving on the winter roads then allow corrosion to accelerate by heating it up in their garages.

That being said, the car is relatively new still and shouldn't have any significant corrosion for many years to come, even if kept in the garage.

Long time lurker on this site - considering as a future car from my MX-5

1. Do it. It's worth it.

2. Former Alaskan here, believe me, metal will rust just fine below freezing. You are correct though, in that many freeze-thaw cycles will get salt, water vapor, and liquid water into the damndest places, and corrosion will significantly accelerate.

After you wash the car and dried the exterior, open up the hood and you would see some blobs of water pooling up around the seal strip. You should dry that area also.

My car would be 3 years old in a month and no such issue.

These cars have a 5 year rust warranty. Uh... I never bought a car under 10 year rust warranty. The GTI and Mini cooper clubman all4 S I am looking at have 12 year rust warranty. The GTI has unlimited mileage 12 year, and the mini has something similar.

I know warranties do not necessarily mean things will last long, but... +7 year gaurantee could be meaningful.

Thoughts?

(I cant believe that the whole line has 5 year rust warranty!)

The competitors have a better rust warranty.


1. If the Subaru/Toyota sell theoretically 150,000 of these cars but save $75 on each unit by using these vulnerable parts, the accountants will have a potential realized savings of a million dollars.


2. It could be possible the plant manufacturing these tin components may just have been drinking too much sake and Suntory. Thus, possible junk.


I remember a Knight Rider episode where KIT was dumped in either an acid or salt bath. That was a sad week but that image falls under my understanding of what a rust bucket is.


3. It could be also that the standardized salt spray test have different industrial standards trilaterally?


An Toyota FJ Cruiser would be a decent courtesy car if I find any rust in the next few months. Charming, but I don't even know what the fine would be to drive along a wet sandy ocean beach in one of those things.