What can my car do?
 

Hey everyone, hope you're all having a good hump day ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I have a question. I was hoping someone could give me a rough estimate of how much Torque and how many horses my car can put out with it's current build. I bought my car used last October. It's a 2013 FR-S. Sadly it's Automatic, though I wanted a stick when I was looking around. I bought this one because of TRD package it had, which I'll go over now.

She's got the TRD dual Cat-Back Exhaust, and the TRD Intake System. It's also got the OEM Scion Spoiler on it, I'll include a picture below.

I just wanted to know what kind of power my car makes with these little upgrades, if it even changes anything at all, lol.

Thanks everyone!

http://i.imgur.com/a0E3XIz.jpg
My car is the one on the right, and don't mind the 'S' not matching the 'FR-' on the badge lol

+6hp !!!! Lmaoo. Maybe if you get a tune you can really get power out of this setup. I'm sure your making a couple ponies over stock.

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Looks great btw

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The OEM spoiler? 10hp over stock right there.

At least +10 street cred over stock..... Haha, welcome man!

at least now you can get a TRD badge and slap it on because you have legit TRD parts unlike some posers i see on the streets

Welcome, Matthewjk ...... to FR-S ownership ........ :)

Nice upgrades, but, like @warmwetness says, they don't yield that much power gain.

I would estimate, roughly, a HP gain of 2.361 and a torque gain of .98421.

The spoiler will add, roughly, 4.9386 MPH to the top speed.

;)


humfrz

Welcome!

Right now, you'll see a small gain of maybe 2-5HP.

The only way these cars make a reasonable amount of more power is an Unequal Length Header as well as some form of tune.

You can reach just about 200whp with a E85 tune if you're looking for even more power.

probably 6.3-7.289whp depending on weather.

Mine has the almost the exact same set up except I just have the drop in. I doubt there is even a 5 horse increase. I did notice a marginally better throttle response with the TRD drop in though so would expect the same with the intake.

^This. You're looking at 2~5hp max.

Cheaper than all of that, STICKERS!!!!!!! Eveyone is worth at least 5 horsepower and the bigger ones could even increase this by 200%.

I'd recommend to not worry about power output and focus on how driving the car makes you feel.

Tune it

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Well, with all due respect to @warmwetness , I'd recommend you leave the tune alone. I don't think your modest mods justify a tune.

humfrz - jst sayen

Get outta here with your logic, old man

WELL, with THAT ...... I'm jest gonna go take a loooong nap ....... :)


humfrz

I didn't know the 13's came w/ an option for a spoiler.

How the hell do you get these numbers lmao?!?

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Yep, an ittie bittie one ....... :)

It's good to use as a handle to open the trunk ........;)


humfrz

You see ........ I got this very complex algorithm ........ :D


humfrz

Yeah, that algorithm is called "outta my ass".

:bellyroll:

Well, I start with f=ma ........ then the rest I just pull from that place ..... :happyanim:


humfrz

depends on the driver and his credit card

Cuz it didnt come with the stickers like aftermarket. Otherwise it woulda been good for +20 easy

Trd upgrades and a tune won't do anything?

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The tune will. The TRD "upgrades" just make it sound and look pretty really. You want to actually bump the power a bit look into headers and tunes.

I still maintain that a "tune", just because of a TRD Intake and cat back exhaust, would not yield any significant increase in power.

But, I'm not a tuner .....:sigh:

I see it as ........"by golly, I put a glass packed straight through muffler on my old car and took off the air cleaner ......... now, I will be ready to race as soon as I re-adjust the timing and dwell "...... :burnrubber:

Oh, OK, @Cole ...... I'll go away and finish sloping the hogs .....or was I feeding the chickens ...... :confused0068:


humfrz

Yeah but you're measuring in CHP so that's like 3 USHP.

Get an Catless UEL Header, or catless EL header and then tune it. I noticed a pretty decent difference with throttle response and power.

With your current setup, you're not gonna notice any difference at all.

Even with a simple tune and no other changes, he can have a 10-12hp gain. I wouldn't do it, but it is possible. With the trd catback exhaust, the intake and a tune he'll be closer to the +20hp limit.

The tune will make more gains then anything else. Intake may give a couple more HP then jusg the ots tune and catback is good for sound only basically

:threadjacked:

Help me out here, if a "tune" can increase the power by say 10 HP, what is the downside(s) ....... except it messes with the warranty .... ??

If there are no downsides, why didn't the manufacturer do it ..... :iono:

humfrz - far, far behind ..... :(

As with most things these days; probably emission / MPG ratings.

The gain in HP/TQ guys are getting from just a header and tune is rediculous. Add E85 to the tune and apparently, by their words, its a different engine.

No expert here, however, from what I have seen around, I think warranty is the main issue, and may lead to some parts wearing faster than the planned part life from the manufacturer. Also, the manufacturer doesn't provide the tune to retard the engine, for I believe, legal and/or the warranty reasons.

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The factory keeps the engine tuning a bit more conservative because you might not find always good quality fuel (premium fuel). Additionally, as mentioned already some parts might wear faster. The engine was not tested at all with this +10 hp increase. My dealer has no problem to install other components to my car (e.g., for handling), but he is strict on engine modifications. No chip tuning, no ECU tuning!

Btw., a tuned car might lose also more value. Especially after the 5+ year period ...

It absolutely is. Initially with my car, I wasn't going to drink the tune "koolaid", but I recently purchased an OFT and I am running their "Stage 2" E85 tune with a cheapy header and a catback exhaust. The car now feels as it should have from the factory. There is no more waiting for acceleration and merging onto the highway is now confidence inspiring. The drawback is the fuel economy, but I am still doing the math on mileage/fuel cost and I believe it will be about the same cost as running 93 octane. The only real drawback so far is I'm now on a first name basis with the employees at the 2 E85 stations in town :lol:

Your car can most certainly do Mad Skidz

Even though I kind of like the spoilers (my FRS does not have one)... I am pretty sure they are net negative in terms of speed!

Enjoy your car!

No way!! The spoilers for hardcore down force during super acceleration and cornering!! Totally makes the car faster! Aerodynamics!!!


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