HKS Supercharger getting closer
 

Hey guys The HKS supercharger is now in its final stages of development and the A/C has been reinstated.

How much are kits usually cost?

Its probably going to cost you your arms and legs

that's exciting! can't wait to see some power figures

the power output should be around 250ps (hence the name ZN250SC). interesting to see how the curve looks like tho, particularly the torque curve.

ahhh i see it there, cheers

idk but we need a close up of that dyno graph in the picture!

Looks like you can still see a large torque dip in the curve on that graph (assuming it is infact the torque curve).

I'm a noob at these things.... So it would be along the lines of this (350z Supercharger)

http://www.hkseurope.com/turbochargers/supercharger.asp

so many pieces in that 350z kit ^^^ read that spark plugs must be changed for that kit, didnt know that had to be done for FI kits

it's common to install a colder plug when you go forced induction.

I posted a pic of the kit laid out on a table during HKS Premium Day on my thread here, along with a bunch of photos of the exhaust:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=51

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minka...026bf6d0cf.jpg

This is great. Assume it will be done then where would the 86 vs S2000 & 370z in straight line speed? I'm curious to know your opinion. I can see it faster than the S2000 for sure !

How much might an arm and a leg be, 2,5,10k?

Depends if you work out your arms and legs :bonk: I hope $2k ish

2K might get you the hose clamps and silicone joiners. I would have thought closer to 7K.

for 7K id rather do an engine swap for STI/WRX motor...

plus tuning and stuff

Ohhh can't wait

Maybe 4500$ usd

Not sure if serious.

A Spec L exhaust is $2k. This kit will also need headers, intake and exhaust. I assume it comes with reflash software but I could be wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if the kit alone costs $8-$10k and with all associated mods you have no change from $15k.

Half the value of the car for 50hp. You'd have to be insane.

It all depends on what it does to the torque curve.

Not sure of price just yet, and not even willing to guess. One thing i do know is that what ever it does cost, you can be sure the quality and reliablity will be second to none.

cheers dave

Can't wait. Hope they also have recomendations/produce the drivetrain components to handle the increased power.

I reckon you wont get much change from 10k

I can never understand this. How can a car be built and sold at a profit for 30K, but an air pump, a belt and some metal tubing cost 10?

I was a little disappointed to see that it is a centrifugal blower, ie, a belt driven turbo. I would have preferred to have seen a twin screw.

I am just guessing but I will suggest economies of scale.

Because HKS

HKS, that all :) actual cost, bit of steel, piping & an intercooler. but its a brand :D plus your paying for their r&d

True, if you want just parts you can easily go to ebay. There is probably someone already selling a "frs/brz kit". But if you want to buy something that, say, someone who knows what they are doing actually put on your specific car and drove it around a bit, then yea you have to pay a little extra.

When you buy a car, the cost isn't so much the materials used as it is the research and development. The cost is determined by how many sales are expected vs manufacturing cost and time spent on R&D. If the kit boosts torque above 300nm across the rev range and brings the 0-100 under 5.5 seconds I'll absolutely pick one up. Chasing that kind of performance from an N/A setup will cost a lot more than $8k. Day to day drivability with an SC will be much better too.

Also remember that 50hp doesn't sound like much but on a 1,200kg it'll boost performance much more than on a car with 150kg higher kerb weight. Drop 70-80kg in kerb weight and you'll notice it even more.

That's how much the HKS kits cost for the Infintis so I think that's a fair guess.

I cant imagine this kit being more than 5k as its just the centrifugal type, however if they brought in a roots type thats a different story.

I heard a rumour they will be releasing a proper factory warranted and fitted supercharger as an after sales option but its rumour at this stage as is most of the 86 mods but being a cult toyota its only to be expected.

I see WRX STI frankenstein 2.5l engine swaps in a few months time. There are always ones out there looking to push the limit. In a car this weight and size its inevitable.

There's only so much you can pull out of a 2 litre. 50 HP might not sound like much but its approx. 25% increase in total output. The seat of the pants feeling you would get would be insane. I'm hoping for 10k you would also get injectors and an upgraded pump.

Being HKS it would be expensive.

i think the 350z kit was $7k?

btw. centrifugal superchargers have proven to be shit in the past so i dont think this will surprise at all

HKS supercharger = Rotrex. You can buy a Rotrex kit off Bullet Cars for a 2.0L NA Impreza for $4.5k (non IC) and $6.5k (water to air IC). HKS kit will be more expensive than this for sure! :(

25% gain is farkall! But I'm sure that is what is considered safe....

I wonder if this engine has shitty pistons like WRX?

2012 STI Motor swap - Would be high on my list instead of this fitment as the engine not supercharged sounds pretty ghey in my opinion :P