MotorTrend 2017 Subaru BRZ First Drive Review
 

Wow already? I'll have a read :)

"Its new Track mode (previously called Sport) permits broad oversteering drifts that melt into safe, stability-controlled cornering without anything like the previous car’s abrupt lasso yank."

That is good news.

Sounds like they enjoyed the car. It still isn't the HP monster people crave from the platform, but they didn't ruin it by making it soft and luxurious.

Nice read - they had a typo on the torque number, listing it as 115 instead of 156. Will be interested to see if we can get any gains off the new intake manifold.

Well, the TQ dip is officially still there. Hip Hip Hooray!

was hoping to see photos of the new intake manifold "cast in aluminum (red-finished) instead of molded plastic" but no...

Check the other review thread.

Sounds like Subaru/Toyota isn't giving current owners much reason to upgrade. A lot of the changes they've made (slight power bump, revised suspension, BBK) are similar to what current owners have already done. Perhaps the one upgrade that'd be most useful is the FD ratio.

I guess it's a good refresh for people who haven't bought a 1st get yet. But given that journalists have been commenting that the two generations feel similar to drive, I can't see many current owners trading in.

Thanks! Looks good...for anyone else interested: http://www.trdparts.jp/assets/img/86/86_engine.jpg

Agreed.
But i guess it's a good thing for previous owners since this way we are not tempted to make a bad financial decision haha.

I like that they have made incremental improvements in a bunch of areas.

I usually keep my cars for about 10 years so assuming that there isn't a big update before then it's nice to know that I can get essentially the same car I have now but with some minor but still practical improvements.

Well if you just look at the numbers, it's not very tempting to trade in, but if the unseen changes and driving characteristics are much improved in the 2017 model then to some people it may be worth it. It's been stated many times that the whole host of changes add up to larger overall better driving experience.

I probably won't upgrade but that new charlesite yellow tickles my fancy.

I wonder if the journalists aren't seeing much difference in driving feel is because of the same Primacy HP tires.

But I think it takes more time and effort to engineer improvements that can keep a similar feel, than doing big changes which can potentially alter the feel by a lot for better or worse.

Why is that a good thing?

Less temptation to upgrade >_>

The changes all seem good but if you already own the car I don't see a point in upgrading, the extra money you end up spending you could have just put towards mods.

Does anyone know what these new taillights look like lighted up? I'm curious, they are starting to grow on me

Damn, love the TRD engine bracing set. I've seen the shock tower brace, but where to get the triangulation bits?

check TRD site, they also got the STI strew stiffener coming. :D

MotorTrend 2017 Subaru BRZ First Drive Review
 

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Hope this helps.

What's is that control in the center where the seat warmers are normally?

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MotorTrend 2017 Subaru BRZ First Drive Review
 

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[QUOTE=MJones_RB;2697592]What's is that control in the center where the seat warmers are normally?][/I][/I]

It is most likely a control knob for the head unit. Could be there for use during the track session or part of a trim package specific to Japan.

Dip dip hooray!

Need pricing info now! Some of the '16s around here have dropped dramatically in asking price on the dealer lots. I'm assuming $27,000 ish after destination, which starts to make the decision quite hard.

I'm actually really glad that they didn't make the car that different. It kinda would've been a slap in the face to all previous gen owners, like they were saying "Hey guys! Thanks for beta testing the car for the past 4 years. Now we've finally made a new version which has a lot of the things you've been asking for! Get 'em while they're hot! Oh yeah btw, you can't return your current car since you modded it trying to actually make it what it was supposed to be. Screw you."

I also hope the new gen owners don't get some sort of superiority complex going.

What Japanese sports car EVER got a mid-cycle refresh that was worth a damn? They are always extremely incremental until they put out a true next-gen car. Hell even sometimes the next gen car isn't all that big a deal (looking at you Nissan).

All I can think of was S2000 AP1-AP2 came with noticeable changes, and the RX-8 got an engine that didn't grenade itself 3 years in, but they replaced all the early engines under warranty so it didn't really matter.

Hopes and dreams won't burn rubber, but I've been doing so in my FR-S for >3 years now. LOL at the people who 'waited to see', they missed out if they were ever truly capable of buying one in the first place.

:burnrubber:

Maybe it's still seat warmer controls:lol:

Not just warmers anymore, massage included 😋


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I don't disagree with your point per se but to play devil's advocate, both the refreshed NSX and S2000 received engine displacement increases, upgraded brakes, new/significantly revised transmissions, and in the case of the S2000 revised suspension. A lot of people thought those refreshes noticeably changed the driving experiences for those cars, and I remember a decent number of owners trading in for the newer models.

Not saying it's common or that I was expecting the same from Toyota/Subaru, but it wouldn't have been completely unprecedented. That said I'm glad I don't feel the urge to trade in for the refresh. I've recently put in money for some track upgrades so I'm sitting pretty for now lol.

It comes with camber plates...stock?

If this thing ends up in C Street, it will shake things up a bit.

< only got ~1.5 with CS- legal crash bolts.:(

No that pic is the pic featuring the trd parts so I'm assuming those camber plates are trd.

Scion has / had a "salad bar" approach to port-installed options that made TRD springs and sways "stock".

I wonder if that will change now that it's officially a "Toyota".

S2000s never received a braking upgrade. The brakes on a 2000 AP1 are the same as what's found on a 2008 AP2 CR. Ditto the NSX - no change over model run.

S2000 starting in 2004:

NSX starting in 1997:

Shoot. My '16 Limited has quite a few extras and $29.9k MSRP. $25k out the door.

Is it just me, or does this review read like Troy Queef wrote it (especially the first few paragraphs)?

http://sniffpetrol.com/category/troy.../#.V31N0vkrLIU

Is it me or is the rear window area redesigned to be more hatch like?

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WOW ! The 2017 BRZ gets

The 6 SPDS "Sport Direct Shift" from the Lexus IS F

My 2013 is for sale

Where?

Maybe sarcasm?