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GarethSA 07-03-2016 05:26 PM

Urgent: unidentified part damaged
 
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Hi everyone

I hope someone can help me. I had a tyre blowout on the highway and when I assessed the damage, I found a black box hanging by a thread in my front right wheel arch. I'm not quite sure what it is, I checked the service manual and looks to me like the same spot where the EDU is. The car still seems to be running fine. Can someone help me identify this component? I am not sure if it could be an original part, but it might be worth noting that I have a Sprintex supercharger and a Delicious Tuning ethanol dosing kit. I've attached a photo of the part in question. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Gareth

justatroll 07-03-2016 05:40 PM

Looks like a GPS tracker.
Is the FBI following you?


I'd throw it on a barge to Panama....


Kidding, I have no idea.

GarethSA 07-03-2016 05:51 PM

I should have expected nothing less from justatroll ;) thanks for the laugh

Apoc 07-03-2016 08:56 PM

Was your wheel well open? are there parts missing in your engine bay? When you say hanging by a thread does that mean it was still attached to the car? My guess is that you ran it over and it got caught in the wheel. The OEM electronics on the right side are vital to the car running so I assume if they were yanked out the car wouldn't run.

Mr Nerd 07-04-2016 01:00 AM

Looks like the top of the fuse box

Tcoat 07-04-2016 01:08 AM

I am also of the thought that it something that was picked up on the road. Oviously nothing critical if it wasn't though since the car still runs fine.
If you find it wasn't from your car can I have it? So far I have a whole tail light assembly, a brake line, some assorted bolts and a rather bent lower control arm that have hit my car on the highway. I figure if I keep all the parts that hit me I can eventually build a whole car. That could go well with the project.

humfrz 07-04-2016 01:09 AM

About what size is it ..... ??


humfrz

Tcoat 07-04-2016 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2696291)
About what size is it ..... ??


humfrz

Is it bigger than a breadbox?

humfrz 07-04-2016 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2696293)
Is it bigger than a breadbox?

OK, how much bigger than a breadbox ...... ??

:thanks:


humfrz

gramicci101 07-04-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2696289)
... and a rather bent lower control arm...

Someone had a real bad day. I can only imagine the chaos from one of those just falling off randomly.

GarethSA 07-04-2016 12:49 PM

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@Apoc - Seems the rubber from my tire knocked the wheel well open (mud guard is now gone, I didn't see it come off though). It was still attached and plugged in, but the "glue" (that black rubber foam glue) came loose, and this box was just hanging by its wires. I say most of the wires were broken so I snipped the remaining ones off (it wouldn't have worked anyway).

@Mr Nerd - It does kinda look like a fuse box, but I opened it up, see pics attached.

@Tcoat - It was definitely still wired to the car, I traced it back to the electronic connections below the air filter (pics attached too). If it's not something I need, you can by all means have it. In fact, I'll deliver it in person (if you pay for my flight to Canada). That's just the nice guy that I am ;) Sounds like an interesting project you're working on though

@humfrz - it's about 75mm x 65mm x 30mm (3" x 2.5" x 1 1/4", for my US friends)

I had the guts to open it (since it's already broken, why not...). It reads Conlog, tried googling but didn't find anything useful....

So the pics are of (I hope I label them in the same order as they appear):
1: Circuit board
2: Connection below air filter
3: Pic from inside the wheel well (not a great pic, but not easy to take a pic there)
4: Another pic of the connection below air filter
5: Mystery box on its side

Thanks everyone for the help! :)

Ultramaroon 07-04-2016 12:54 PM

That indeed is part of the delicious flex fuel system. I recognize it from a buddy's rig. He has his attached to the top of the fusebox. Same side.

geezerbrzeezer 07-04-2016 01:35 PM

Classic ejection seat detonation module failure. I'll post the TSB link.

GarethSA 07-04-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2696474)
That indeed is part of the delicious flex fuel system. I recognize it from a buddy's rig. He has his attached to the top of the fusebox. Same side.


Ok, so I just got the following reply from Delicious Tuning:

Hey Gareth,

Very odd thing you've had happen there, but it doesn't look to be our box! Our circuit board is much more heavily populated, and the case itself is a different shape with our "D" logo on the top. Hope this helps.

-Zach

So it's not a DT item...

BTW - they've always given me incredible service, just saying ;)

jvincent 07-04-2016 03:01 PM

Nothing like a good mystery.

What is the word on the other label? The date says 20 Nov 2012 but I can't make out the word from your picture.

Also, could you put up a picture of the other side of the circuit board?

humfrz 07-04-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by justatroll (Post 2696042)
Looks like a GPS tracker.
Is the FBI following you?


I'd throw it on a barge to Panama....


Kidding, I have no idea.

Well now, @justatroll just may be onto something here ....... :eyebulge:
@GarethSA ,does your SO suspect you of sneaking around .. ?? Have you checked to see if someone has attached a dash cam in the interior of your car.. ?? Has your SO recently taken out a life insurance policy on you .. ??


Just sayen ......... :confused0068:



humfrz

ryoma 07-04-2016 04:09 PM

destroy your phone along with any other electronics and go under the radar for the next year. maybe throw yourself on a barge out to Panama as well, but leave the box at home

cjd 07-04-2016 04:11 PM

Just a note, that looks like a battery so this would be something that likes backup power. Body computer? Unless it's something that came with the sprinted.

That looks like the back of the board, I there are a bunch of parts on the other side. Still, looks like the flex fuel parts use a grommet and wire loom, so probably not this list. Might be worth checking the flex fuel stuff is in the car but...

justatroll 07-04-2016 04:24 PM

South African Car Alarm:


https://javalins.wordpress.com/2012/...-unit-removal/


http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.ph...g-alarm-module


https://www.ftaarea.com/company-deta.../12352516.html

Looks like you figured out how to disable one....


Did you buy the car used?

humfrz 07-04-2016 04:36 PM

It appears that ol @justatroll has solved the mystery .........:thumbsup:

Now, who put it on the car..?? Why .. ?? Was it ever a mule (drug) car .. ??


humfrz

G-awesome 07-04-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by justatroll (Post 2696042)
Looks like a GPS tracker.
Is the FBI following you?


I'd throw it on a barge to Panama....


Kidding, I have no idea.

edward snowden was specifically warning you all this time before he booked it to russia.

wbradley 07-04-2016 05:33 PM

I googled Conlog, and a South African electronics firm came up first.

Surprised the OP didn't find it in his search.

Now, if the OP will pay my way to South Africa I will bring him a Coffee Crisp bar.

Ultramaroon 07-05-2016 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GarethSA (Post 2696506)
Ok, so I just got the following reply from Delicious Tuning:

Hey Gareth,

Very odd thing you've had happen there, but it doesn't look to be our box! Our circuit board is much more heavily populated, and the case itself is a different shape with our "D" logo on the top. Hope this helps.

-Zach

So it's not a DT item...

BTW - they've always given me incredible service, just saying ;)

Well, damn. It looked to be exactly the same size. True though, their logo is molded into the box. Missed that part. :/

humfrz 07-05-2016 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2696882)
Well, damn. It looked to be exactly the same size. True though, their logo is molded into the box. Missed that part. :/

You're slipping ....... :sigh:


humfrz

Ultramaroon 07-05-2016 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2696897)
You're slipping ....... :sigh:


humfrz

I know! Gotta pull back & regroup.

GarethSA 07-05-2016 08:39 AM

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@jvincent - the words that I can read are:
CONLOG 418HW4.3.1 SW-2.17

Vbu 418 V 5.0
650007401113
20 nov 2012
A
Indium

On the other side (pic attached)

@humfrz - no SO, so unless I have a stalker, it shouldn't be the case... Though with such a sexy car, I wouldn't be suprised ;)

@ryoma - check, phone destroyed, internet cable cut, wifi off, cut the electrical cable. Currently living in the woods.

@cjd - flex fuel is still working 100%, and DT said that it doesn't look like theirs :)

@justatroll - of everyone here, you are the last person that I expected to give me the correct answer, I assumed your links were trolling... However, you are 100% right. I tried googling and I didn't find that, dunno how you did... I took it to the Toyota service manager and he confirmed that it is an antenna (if you look at one of the "wires", you'll see it's transparent - that is apparently the antenna).

Yes, bought the car used, didn't know it had a tracker

@humfrz - must've been the previous owner. It's not strange in South Africa to have a tracking system for WHEN (not if) your car gets stolen ;) (OK, I'm exaggerating a bit, but you know what I mean....)

@wbradley - yes, an electronics firm came up first. Called "Conlog: Smart meters | Prepaid electricity meters" - we have prepaid electricity in South Africa so I couldn't tie the two together.

Second link is "Conlog - Schneider Electric
Conlog was acquired by Schneider Electric in 2000. The company is a world leader in prepayment revenue management solutions, encompassing prepayment ..."

So honestly, I couldn't see past the pre-paid electricity thing. And I tried googling the model number too. Trust me, asking on the forum and posting pics is a lot more effort than a simple google search, so I wouldn't have posted if I wasn't stuck ;)

@Ultramaroon - no worries, it does look pretty similar though!


Thanks everyone for the help! :)

Paul.W 08-10-2016 01:42 PM

Could it be the wireless receiver for the TPMS? If it was behind the wheel well.

FX86 08-10-2016 02:46 PM

it's a bomb..don't cut the red wire


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