BRZ Manual Or Auto?
 

I know this subjects ALWAYS comes up but I am planning on getting the new 2017 Subaru BRZ when it comes out and I never driven a Subaru & I never driven a manual but everyone's been telling me that if I don't get a manual, I might as well get another car. Is it worth trying out the manual? I live in FL or sometimes traffic can be slow and no one around me can drive a manual so no one including my siblings or girl can borrow my car either. But yet again I don't want people to think It was pointless of me to get the BRZ if its not manual. I wana know your opinion on this.

Trying it? Yes, do it.
Spending $30k based on internet advice?

Fuck no.

can't speak for the 2017 model but the automatic transmission is no slouch and the paddle shifters can help you shift in the middle of the turn with full control of the steering wheel using both hands..and the downshift rev matches are perfect

the manual might be more engaging therefore more fun but if you don't know how to drive manual it might be frustrating and not as enjoyable at first if you are not proficient in handling the clutch

in regards to family you can teach them how to drive manual once you figure it out yourself but i say test drive both first and see how you feel

can't go wrong with either transmission honestly...only the fools say you need to get this car in manual only and hate on auto

The ATs in these cars are not the ATs in your daddy's Buick. Most of the guys that have them love them and many of the guys that don't love them have just given in to peer pressure from guys that are talking out of their ass.


I do not normally subscribe to the "search noob" theology but in this case I will make an exception. This is probably one of the top discussed items in this forum and a 5 second search gave me dozens of hits. Here are a handful of them.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101849
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28547
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84303
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21692
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77114
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16825
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69618
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105942

Manual + resale value will be better in the future if you decide to privately sell it.

My suggestion would be to test drive both and AT and an MT, go home, and give yourself time to go over how you felt in each and weigh out pros and cons. This is a big investment so make sure you buy something you're comfortable with.

Manual only in this vehicle.


*lol*

I think you will find that most enthusiasts on here agree that the AT is the clearly superior option for this car. Faster shifts and not having to deal with a pesky 3rd pedal really help you to feel connected with the car and will make you appreciate it even more. Nothing says sports car like neutral dropping it at a stop light in an AT.

I have an auto, paddle shifter is fun enough for me as it is also my daily. And I am a Field Tech that drives 80% of my day in heavy downtown traffic. Perfect balance of convenience and fun for what I do and what I am looking for. Don't let other people tell you what you need in a car if it doesn't match your situation.

Here's the problem with the OP trying out a manual:
I don't think that he can really evaluate whether he would like a manual transmission if he's never driven one before. However, it'd be good for him to try out the auto and see how he likes it compared to other autos he's driven. contrary to what some people state on this forum, having an auto doesn't mean you relinquish all control of how/when you want to change gears.

OP - here are your different shifting options with the auto:
1. On drive: Just let the car shift by itself - this is basically granny mode for best fuel consumption
2. On drive, with sport mode engaged: this changes gears at higher RPMs than on just 'drive', allowing you to rev up the engine more. the car will feel quicker in sport mode.
3. In manual mode: use the paddle shifters to shift up or down; you're in complete control of when the shift occurs.
4. In manual mode: use the gear shifter to shift up or down: pushing it forward upshifts and pulling it backward downshifts.
5. In manual mode: use both the paddle shifters and the gear shifter to shift - you can use either at will, in combination.
6. In drive: when in drive, you can still upshift or downshift using the paddle shifters or gear shifter manually. the car will be in manual mode temporarily, then return to fully automatic.

If learning how to drive a manual is important to you, then buy the manual. If allowing others to drive the car (and they don't know how to drive a manual) is important to you, and the auto suits your needs better, then get the auto.

The bottom line is - buy the one that suits your needs/wants the best.

Seriously, drive both if you can. It's not nearly as big of a difference as it used to be. Oh, and make sure you try the manual in stop and go traffic. That's where it's at its most annoying.

Personally, I got the MT, strictly because I love the feeling, rather than any perceived advantages speed-wise.

Oh, a manual will make it that much harder to text and drive, so that's one plus for the MT!

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No, but it does make you a bitch.

:laughabove::cheers:

That's 'Mr. Beotch' to you. :D

Careful there. It's hard sometimes to determine sarcasm on the internet.

As for the OP's question,get another car. If you have to come to the internet first to ask what to get,maybe deep down,you don't really want it.

So much hate towards the auto and I'm just here enjoying my paddles.
:scared0016:

I have yet to have someone other than some internet keyboard warrior ridicule my purchase of getting an auto vs manual, it's not like I can't drive manual it's more of a choice of convenience. It may be more engaging, but after driving to work for the longest time with a stick in long traffic bouts I got tired of it in a "pedestrian" car.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6485

Read this thread Moto-P explains it very well and helped me decide in the end and I'm a big manual guy myself so happy shopping.

That!


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Exactly never understood the big fuss over it.

I prefer hands free so I went with the auto. It's nice to have the option though whenever i want to use manual mode. Do whichever you like more, that's literally all that matters. You are the one driving.

Manual

I love it even with commuting in heavy traffic daily. It is more fun and makes me a better and more engaged driver in all conditions, especially bumper to bumper traffic.

If you have never driven a manual before, the decision seems more to be manual vs automatic in general vs on the 86 specifically.

I personally hope never to own a automatic transmission vehicle - harder every year as more and more companies stop offering manual transmission in the U.S.

But so far my last 3 cars have been manual, hoping to keep it that way :)

The only problem I have with people who talk up the AT in an 86 is this false equivalence between this tranny and the high end automated sequential dual clutch whatchacallit manuals in Porsche, F1 cars, Ferrari, etc.

The automatic transmission in the 86 without a shadow of a doubt has more in common with daddy's Buick than the LFA. It may be the best damn slushbox AT in the world, but it's still got a torque converter, masking that by calling it "e-shift" or "flappy paddles" only serves to stroke someone's ego with falsehoods.

tl;dr buy what makes you happy.

And if you want a true flappy paddle gearbox buy a Golf.

Or a PDK 911 :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: that thing shifts insanely fast

Or a Veloster ;)

Um, is no one going to talk about a "BRZ" titled thread being in the not-brz forum?

Here's my advice: Go read the forum rules. Read them again. Then, scan the topics on this forum to get an idea for where things belong. Then read them again.

Then, to stay on top of current events, go read all of the random thoughts forum in the off topic. Only then will you be prepared in the slightest for this forum.

By the way, I cannot resist saying that only AT will allow you to drive using your left foot for the brake (not momentarily, as in left-foot-braking while racing in an MT car, but all the time). Which is a great technique, and will the haters take the bait and start another flame war with me :D?

Lol thread locked begins in 5,4,3,2,1 :confused0068:

UMMMMM it would appear that YOU would be the one starting a flame war on the subject not anybody responding to your statement.


And just why would anybody that knows it is a stupid idea be a "hater" for saying so?


Have you tried it in a twin yet?

Quote of the day! :bellyroll:

Not hating on the AT/paddle scene, but do yourself a favor and get the manual.

Why? Because you owe it to yourself to experience a manual transmission. You can always do the AT/DCT paddles in the future.

I've always owned manual sports cars. That said ... my next sports car will have DCT/paddles. I've enjoyed the manuals, but it is time to move on.

You, on the other hand, haven't experienced a manual.

Experience it. Enjoy it. Have fun with it.

God I hate all these AT vs MT threads. They are all exactly the bloody same. Only the faces change.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xpbz_jDf9K...row+circle.gif

Nope, still makes you a bitch, pro's teach you to do it in an MT.


[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7O01h7MU4"]Left Foot Braking Explained - YouTube[/ame]

That needs Yakety Sax playing in the background.

Better:

http://i.imgur.com/cAqf3TF.gif

Edit: sound
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But is he left foot braking?

You got me :D

No, but I tried in enough of other cars to know it's good.

Because I have years of experience doing so while they have never done that or at best tried once or twice.

And I can provide (and have provided) rational arguments for superiority of left-foot braking, while they just repeat the same unfounded opinions ;).

Fuck no.

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I'd suggest renting a mt car ( any one) and spending a day deciding if you like manual or not. There are pluses and minuses to both transmissions. If you don't know how to drive a standard it might be a pain. Only one way to find out though. Go try it.