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Stang70Fastback 06-29-2016 10:34 AM

Calling all 2016 Owners! Next-Generation Fuel Pump: Crickets?
 
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One of the most interesting tidbits in the leaked 2017 Model Year Changes Document was a revised fuel pump. The document states "R/C planned for 2016 MY" which would suggest that this was a Rolling Change that made it into some of the later 2016 vehicles.

Those of you with 2016 vehicles, particularly with later build dates, should check under the hood to see if you have the revised pump. I've attached an image which shows the difference between the pumps. Should be easy to tell just based on the design of the top cover (the old pump has a "flowery" shape whereas the new pump is just a flat surface.)

A lot of us here would be curious to hear from anyone with the new pump - specifically whether or not you are experiencing the same "cricket" noise that the rest of us have to deal with. It would be nice to know if the revised design minimizes that noise.

Summerwolf 06-29-2016 10:37 AM

That's a fact, the crickets are annoying...especially when you pull up to a gas pump or in a drive thru.

BDKane01 06-29-2016 10:46 AM

I think my 16 limited was built last year. I will check, though.

pinski 06-29-2016 10:51 AM

Will be interested to hear for sure. Next question would be as to whether or not they'd replace my MY14 HPFP with the new model, should I go in and complain about crickets as a warranty issue. I've still got about 10000 miles left (unless this would be considered powertrain, then I have plenty o' miles).

acetothermus 06-29-2016 10:52 AM

I wonder if we complain loud enough (Pun intended) about the crickets if they will swap out older fuel pumps with the newer design....assuming it's quieter.

BWilky 06-29-2016 10:57 AM

Mine was built in February 2016, I will check under the hold later today.

Stang70Fastback 06-29-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by acetothermus (Post 2692323)
I wonder if we complain loud enough (Pun intended) about the crickets if they will swap out older fuel pumps with the newer design....assuming it's quieter.

This is why I'm curious. Many people have gotten theirs swapped, but it's pointless to swap for the same pump. If this new pump fixes the crickets, I will be interested in seeing if I can have mine swapped for a newer model since I am well within the warranty period.

Da Brz 06-29-2016 11:21 AM

Around what mileage did y'all's pumps start chirping? My 16 has the old fuel pump but it doesn't chirp. Got around 6k miles on it so far. Built in March 2016.

Dadhawk 06-29-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pinski (Post 2692321)
Will be interested to hear for sure. Next question would be as to whether or not they'd replace my MY14 HPFP with the new model, should I go in and complain about crickets as a warranty issue. I've still got about 10000 miles left (unless this would be considered powertrain, then I have plenty o' miles).

It is considered power train. I had mine replaced at 50,000+ miles.

Stang70Fastback 06-29-2016 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2692355)
Around what mileage did y'all's pumps start chirping? My 16 has the old fuel pump but it doesn't chirp. Got around 6k miles on it so far. Built in March 2016.

Mine started chirping at 300 miles, lol.

pinski 06-29-2016 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2692355)
Around what mileage did y'all's pumps start chirping? My 16 has the old fuel pump but it doesn't chirp. Got around 6k miles on it so far. Built in March 2016.

Mine started around 15,000 miles and has been chirping on and off since, mostly in warmer months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2692356)
It is considered power train. I had mine replaced at 50,000+ miles.

Good to know and makes sense - thanks!

Jfheisenberg 06-29-2016 12:42 PM

My 2015 series blue got the crickets at around 4000 miles.. Now at 21k, i still hear the crickets everyday, i already got use to it. As soon as its confirmed that the new fuel pump fixes the problem im going to subaru to get mine replaced.

Summerwolf 06-29-2016 12:48 PM

Pretty much started around 6K for me. I just clocked 25,000 miles. I have hunted out ethanol free stations and no change. I fill up only with 93 or 91.... no change. I have tried 100+ octane on a whim just trying to get rid of them or quiet them...no change.


OK, guess I'll live with it.

Tcoat 06-29-2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2692355)
Around what mileage did y'all's pumps start chirping? My 16 has the old fuel pump but it doesn't chirp. Got around 6k miles on it so far. Built in March 2016.

Some start early.
Some start late.
Some never get 'em.
Some never abate.


If you get crickets.
There's no need to fear.
If you don't wanna to hear them.
Just stand in the rear.


I hear them at drive throughs
Or at the gas pumps.
Exhaust is much louder.
And the rattles from bumps.

Jfheisenberg 06-29-2016 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2692495)
Some start early.
Some start late.
Some never get 'em.
Some never abate.


If you get crickets.
There's no need to fear.
If you don't wanna to hear them.
Just stand in the rear.


I hear them at drive throughs
Or at the gas pumps.
Exhaust is much louder.
And the rattles from bumps.

LOL, im so used to the crickets that if i dont hear them, i fear that there is something wrong with my car...

Dadhawk 06-29-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pinski (Post 2692429)
Good to know and makes sense - thanks!

I guess just to be clear, I'm not even 100% sure I had "Crickets". I primarily used it as an opportunity to get a zeroed out fuel pump before the warranty ran out. I guess I had enough of them the service manager was willing to replace it under the TSB.

Jeff Lange 06-29-2016 01:57 PM

Toyota parts catalog hasn't been updated with a new part number yet, so if it is going to be included in any 2016MY cars, it's likely going to be very late production (I would think the last month or so, these cars likely haven't been built yet and/or are just coming off the production line. I wouldn't expect anyone who actually has a car in their possession to have the updated pump as of yet).

Jeff

pinski 06-29-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2692537)
I guess just to be clear, I'm not even 100% sure I had "Crickets". I primarily used it as an opportunity to get a zeroed out fuel pump before the warranty ran out. I guess I had enough of them the service manager was willing to replace it under the TSB.

Nice - that's what my eventual plan was as well.

Tcoat 06-29-2016 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange (Post 2692596)
Toyota parts catalog hasn't been updated with a new part number yet, so if it is going to be included in any 2016MY cars, it's likely going to be very late production (I would think the last month or so, these cars likely haven't been built yet and/or are just coming off the production line. I wouldn't expect anyone who actually has a car in their possession to have the updated pump as of yet).

Jeff

The 16 production wrapped up in May (someplace on here is an official statement) so if the 16s don't have them by now they are never going to.

cueball89 06-29-2016 02:12 PM

Ordered my 2016 in the beginning of April and took delivery the 2nd week of May I believe. I have the crickets on and off. I'll check the pump later today.

Jeff Lange 06-29-2016 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2692606)
The 16 production wrapped up in May (someplace on here is an official statement) so if the 16s don't have them by now they are never going to.

Yes, I seem to recall something about that as well, though that may have just been North American production possibly? The 2017 changes document was global, so perhaps they are still producing 2016's for some other markets?

Jeff

cueball89 06-29-2016 06:38 PM

4/16 build date. Old style fuel pump.

guybo 06-29-2016 09:17 PM

2/16 build date, my fuel pump has a metal cover over it, I didn't take it off to see what pump is under. I got crickets after fueling up at Wawa once, but they never came back after that week.

chaoskaze 06-29-2016 10:04 PM

Calling all 2016 Owners! Next-Generation Fuel Pump: Crickets?
 
The original document is translated from japanese so This is Asia we are talking about so.. I would assume by 2016 it means the cars that's actually build this year & rolling changes as they build.

Check the build date on your car.


That being said my car is cricket free if I use chevron.... & go crazy with shell...
(& No crickets with Costco too.....)


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Teseo 06-29-2016 10:43 PM

I wonder if you can swap new pump to the old models can "fix" it the chirpping.

Ravensbro 06-29-2016 10:57 PM

I'll check mine and update but it did chirp for a few days at about 2,000 miles

JetSpeed 06-30-2016 10:53 AM

My 2016 Limited has a build date of 12/15'

I heard crickets for the FIRST time this week @ 725 miles. The next day; no crickets. Too lazy to look at fuel pump.

Rifle 06-30-2016 11:12 AM

My '16 HyperBlue has a build date of March, still have/had crickets.. but I'm supercharged.. so I have whistling crickets now.

vintagemxer 06-30-2016 04:12 PM

Got my '16 @ end of last year. Not able to look right now, but whatever I have has crickets 😱. When able to verify which one, but will get back with y'all 😎

chaoskaze 06-30-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagemxer (Post 2693809)
Got my '16 @ end of last year. Not able to look right now, but whatever I have has crickets ��. When able to verify which one, but will get back with y'all ��

I'm sure since original document is just a translation of japanese documents.

Their MY16 means manufacturing year 2016 not model year 2016. So yours will have the old pump. Let me know if I'm wrong. :P

xFury 06-30-2016 08:10 PM

I'm waiting of the 17th or someone to confirm that they can swap it to the new 17 pump on my FRS also, since mines still less than a year old lol. Got my 16 around November give or take and I have the Crickets.

vintagemxer 06-30-2016 10:17 PM

Man. 10/15...2016 model...fuel pump has no flowery surface...got crickets :happyanim:...but it's not bothersome :party0030:

rookie 07-01-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2693083)
I wonder if you can swap new pump to the old models can "fix" it the chirpping.

I was wondering the same thing...

Xxyion 07-06-2016 04:12 PM

So i bought my 2016 at the beginning of June. I believe the manufacture date is one of the later ones. I Still get crickets however not to the extent some people are talking about. I found a lot had to do with the type of gas i put in. But in short...yeah still crickets.

CZ6T 07-06-2016 06:08 PM

I Bought my Hyperblue at the end of 2015, I'm not sure on the build date. I just ran out and confirmed it's the old style with the flowery top cap.

Traffic 07-06-2016 06:28 PM

:thumbup:Build date 3/16 I have the old pump but no crickets........So far @3k miles

humdizzle 07-11-2016 02:40 AM

im hoping this fixes it for good. I've dealt with it on and off with my 2014. i think its related to gas, but even within the same station i've had changes with crickets, mild crickets, and no crickets.

Jeff Lange 07-11-2016 01:08 PM

We finally got the updated 2017 86 parts catalog late last week. Part number for the high pressure pump hasn't changed yet in the catalog. Once the first MY17 cars show up perhaps it will actually be different? Has anyone checked the 2017 BRZ catalog yet?

Jeff

Da Brz 07-11-2016 02:40 PM

Noticed mine doing it a little more regularly. When I first got it, I noticed something cricket-like but it was only briefly and I didn't know if that was the cricket sound or not. Now it's a lot more constant and harder to mistake. So yeah. Crickets.


Started getting more noticeable around 6000-7000 miles.

Psy-q 07-11-2016 06:12 PM

The DENSO unit will most likely be 100% backwards compatible with older models. Because the 2017 will have 2 engines - Red Top/ Black Top.

I am sure they would use 1 fuel pump for both, so we can use the new 2017 pump on our older engines.


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