BRZ and FR-S Sales Numbers Thread
 

I usually check the sales results every month so I thought I would collect them all in one place. Here are the results so far and I will try to update it each month.


Latest figures and charts by travisb

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1413902798

Interdasting.

So the FR-S outnumbers the BRZ by about 3:1, well I guess that makes the BRZ more appealing for some people.

Already more sold in the us then Honda brought over ITRs in four years :) that's why I laughed when it was called limited production ;)

Within a month, FRS sold for that much more than BRZ? Is FRS being produced at a higher rate than BRZ?

RWD is a huge departure for Subaru, a deal-breaker for some I was told by more than one dealer regarding the BRZ. It's a better fit for Scion/Toyota out of the gate, plus there's a price advantage. I'll be curious to see how sales hold up over time for Subaru. Hopefully they'll do well, I've been driving Subarus for decades and was all but ready to leave the fold based on current styling trends, but the BRZ brought me back.

Yes.

Toyota will be importing two to three times as many FR-Ses than Subaru will BRZs. This is reflected in the plant production too. Subaru has said they want the BRZ to be more rare, but we'll see what the production number look like in a year or two. Considering how well they are selling, I think we'll see a large jump in BRZ production. But the GT86/FR-S will always outsell the BRZ due to Toyota being a sheer juggernaut in auto sales.

Being a Subaru fan, I'm ok with this since every car that comes from the Gunma plant means more $$ in Subaru's coffers.

I doubt the FR-S sales exactly 86 in May. I remember back then some non-86er took delivery of their cars in this forum and happy about it. I guess those were just not recorded until June.

FR-S sales numbers for June 2,684. USA Today.
 

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T_XnHZHO1Tg

It is doing exactly what Toyota wanted in America, revitalizing Scion to heights it hasn't seen in 4 years.

:drinking::happy0180:

soon it'll be like honda civic and toyota corolla that you'll see in every stop light.....

I'll drank to that.

Not even close.. Toyota and Honda sell more Civics and Corollas in a month than Scion will sell FR-S's in a year.

I wonder how the sales will be this month considering I haven't heard of any new ships docking in the US for the past several weeks, and most of the allocation on the lots has long dried up.

June 2012 sales numbers:
Honda Civic = 27500
Toyota Corolla = 26647

I'd say FR-S sales will slowly go down to more like 1000 a month in a few years.

Jack Hollis said in an interview that he thinks they will sell a lot within the first few months because of all the enthusiast's. After the first year, I see this being an S2000 all over again.

yeah no way will they ever sell 25k unit month They would have to add the convertible, and sedan..then maybe they will jump up to like 3,500 units a month....that's 42,000 units a year...

The reason why there was over 2600 units sold in June because it was for initial demand. FR-S units will be sitting on dealers lots come November...

They will do better than the S2000 because the FR-S is way cheaper and it has way more space and looks way better than a S2000. ;) But you are right 1500 units a month is about all they will ever be able to sell...which is good...which is 18000 units a year...370Z sales level....

Definitely, as awesome as the car is it just can't compete on paper to the other cars. A typical buyer will see the price, then look at the horsepower, then ask if it has a turbo (boost!), and then decide from there. It doesn't matter how good the car handles because 90% of driver's never leave the highway or city traffic.

If anything, I see the FRS/BRZ taking some Miata buyers.

the more they sell, the more aftermarket parts wil be in demand, the cheaper the parts will be.

this is very good for the consumers.

If you want a cheap aftermarket buy a mustang or a civic, the frs/brz will never have a cheap aftermarket. That's just the way it goes. I'm not saying you can't afford it, but if anyone is buying this car because they think it will be easy to mod as in cheap then they are going to be disappointed.

I want it to sell well enough so that it doesn't go the way of the RX8, or Supra, or any other car that cam and went. I don't want to see it on every corner though.

I went by the dock in Richmond Ca yesterday and spotted 8 white BRZs and a couple of grey ones.

Agreed, they just want everything to be 86. I just learned the exhaust tip has a 86mm diameter in Eurospec GT86s.

Agreed, the S2000 cost $10K more than an FR-S and that was in 1999. Factor in for inflation, and that would be the equivalent of the S2000 selling for $48K today. Convertible, and no rear seat as well...

FR-S is just a cheaper car that should appeal to more people. I think the initial sales will be strong for 2-3 years then you may see things start to level off, depending on the competition.

But no doubt, this is good news for Subaru and Toyota out of the gate. Sales are strong and demand is high and looks to be for some time.

Very good for the future of RWD sports coupes in the $28K and below range :)

Which is good for me, as I want more choices and to keep car manufacturers on their toes.

Never, given the fact it is a 2 door and only a 2 door they won't sell as many. The reason these cars die is because the majority of the population needs a car that is convenient, this car isn't all that convenient for families unless it is just a second car etc.

But that they will be more common than a Toyota Supra, yes...

AE86

The Sales of AE86 never lasted forever..neither will this car. Give it 10 years max...

Nissan Z
You never know the Nissan 370Z car is still selling fairly strong, probably will get even better in the next generation which supposedly will be lighter and maybe with higher tech engines...

Honda has no balls...
But remember Honda gave up on the S2000 and NSX, and Integra\RSX, all they had to do was redesign them...

Nissan Silvia (the only possible FR-S\86\BRZ competitor)
Nissan has pretty much brought all of its old sports cars back (GTR, 370Z), except for the Silvia...which we all know Nissan is working on bringing it back too...they better....

Mazda Miata
Mazda never lost faith in their Miata, but they are moving too slow for a major update. They can't go 10 years between major updates. It should be 7 years max just like Nissan does it with the Z car.

I just realized there are no other cheap light weight, RWD sports cars...There is a market for them....If you think about it, the FR-S\BRZ twins are in a market by themselves. The Miata is a real roadster in a market all by itself. There are no other less than $30k RWD lightweight roadsters. The FRS\BRZ are real RWD lightweight coupes. Even the 370Z is not a coupe it's a hatchback (a sleek looking one, but it is a hatchback)

Since the FR-S\BRZ are successful, you will see Honda come out of the wood works and bring to the table a RWD lightweight coupe....they have too....because they have no cheap sports cars...what am I saying they have NO sports cars at the moment.

Honda doesn't have to do anything, just because Toyota/Subaru released the FT86 doesn't mean that every other manufacturer has to bring out a sporty cheap RWD car. The impact on sales that this car has is so small that I don't think anyone but the consumers will notice it.

Numbers make sense given low availability of the BRZ. FR-S appears to be better inventoried, but I wonder why? Aren't the twins built in the same factory, or is that incorrect?

The numbers in the first post are US sales. The 370Z has never sold that many units in a year, and it's not a given that Nissan will sell half that number this year. The 350Z did sell over 18k per year, but of course US sports car sales have significantly decreased since the US housing bubble collapse.

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html

Subaru of America seems to be carrying through on the plan of a limited allocation through November.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3933

I want the FR-S and BRZ twins to be limited really .. I can understand the fear or them dieing off quickly .. but honestly I hate the idea of driving the same car on the roads :(

I don't mind this car being as popular as the Mustangs if that means that prices drop and aftermarket and enthusiast community grows.

I just don't want the image of the FRS/BRZ drivers to be as tarnished as that of a Mustang. God, I hate stang drivers. Old women and ****heads.

By comparison, between 1991 and 1997, Subaru sold slightly less than 14,000 of the Subaru SVX....that's limited production.

Judging by the interest people show when they see this car on the street, I have a feeling this will be the most common Subaru of any I've owned by the end of next year --- especially given the numbers of the Scion version being sold.

That is what I've always found amusing about the Subaru community; the whole AWD/turbo or bust mentality. :lol:

Well the GTS WAS only sold for 3 years....

Sr5 was 9 times more common as a result, however.

Interesting. I've seen 2 BRZs on the road, but yet to see an FR-S

Well I learned a lot about you from that post.

ive only seen a few FR-S' and 1 BRZ. several friends dont know what it is yet. i feel that people who dont know about the car by now dont care about the "performance" of this car(or any car for that matter). i think more of these people wil be buying them in a few months when they see them driving around and think they look good. sales should rise through november