2017 BRZ price in Japan and new 4.2" LCD screen information
 

2017 BRZ price in Japan and new 4.2" LCD screen information


Source: car.kurumagt.com

Nice that LCD screen has pretty much everything you need. :D


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http://car.kurumagt.com/2016-zc6e.html

Uh oh it reads CVT for automatic maybe typo.

I'm assuming S is the limited? So based on those numbers, the MT is 26.4k and AT is 26.9k (US) before destination is added probably. We should be hearing soon from SoA on official pricing then by the end of this month finally.

Yes the last digit on the chassis code denotes the trim. 7 means R type which corresponds to our Premium, 8 means S type equivalent to our Limited / Sport-tech, they also have 6 that stands for RA barebone trim. I guess the new GT / performance package could be a 9.

Like my chassis code is ZC6BYE8; ZC6 being a Subaru BRZ, B means 2nd model year aka 2014, YE means North America, 8 means Limited / Sport-tech trim. The sticker is on my passenger side below the door striker.

Happy that we still have the R Customize Package. This means that the barebone trim will exist in Japan.


I keep this one and you can take the fat chicks. :)

My heart broke when I saw the torque graph still showing the torque dip in the attached picture....:cry:

By the way, The 2016 "S" model, which was the top model, is listed at Yen 2,926,800

http://www.subaru.jp/brz/brz/grade/s.html


It sits between the 2017 "S" model which comes in at Yen 2,750,000 and the 2017 top model "GT" which equipped with Brembo brakes and Sachs dampers at Yen 3,070,000.

The new "S" model is better equipped compared to the old "S" model. That means the 2017 MY is cheaper than 2016 MY in Japan.

If I were in the Japanese market however, I would choose the GT in a heartbeat because of very minimal price difference between the 2016 "S" and the 2017 GT.

All in all, very good pricing strategy!!

Roughly 30k for the performance package then?

Hey, good catch! :thumbsup:


If they could get rid of the dip, then it means that it was in the first place a design fault. It is clear to me that it was not a fault. They'll just try to fool you a bit with the changed FD and a few other things, but nothing more.

They did such a good job copying the 987 Cayman down to the torque dip yea!!

http://caymanregister.org/images/FAQ...rque_curve.jpg

Now we get their Sports Chrono pack without the dash wart.

the info screen is very neat, would be perfect if it shows navigation map.

What's this picture from that link? Looks kinda like the new BRZ headlight but it's clearly a different shape.

http://car.kurumagt.com/wp-content/u...subarbr005.jpg

Also, looks like the claim of "improved mid-range power" does not mean they fixed the torque dip. :)

That's the new WRX.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KqOlZZviBI...STI-S207-1.jpg

Technically they could improve it by 2-3 hp or ft-lbs and make those claims. They never said "noticeable improved mid-range power" :(

Ohhhhhhhh a yellow WRX! I really like the looks of that.

Hmmmmm

Japan only though :(. I like the s207 too

Of course. I should have known.

no sti brz version no talk!

Will North American cars also have similar features with our LCD screen, g meter etc?

They will, it's not that hard other then changing km to mile... actually canada use KMs so 100% confirmed they will have them... :D

Afterall it's just... mileage/average fuel/how long till fillup/average speed of the drive/how long you been driving/cruise distance/water temp/oil temp/battery gaudge/G meter/engine preformance curve chart/lap timers from top left to bottom right. :burnrubber:


But looks like Brz with everything will be right @ 30500-31000. Still cheaper then ND club sport with brembos...yaaa

I heard the 2017 BRZ with be all wheel drive and turbo😏


Source: motoring.au

Rear engine teamed up with Porsche and dropped Toyota.

4.2" screen? Will it also have massive 480x320 pixels resolution from 2010 smartphones?

I think they should have just made the entire 3rd pod being an LCD or simply just redesign the entire dash, this looks like a half ass job to save money just to get the speedo showing on the corner of the center pod. Same for the ND Miata where the LCD doesn't fill up the entire side pod.

In case you missed it. Mazda does have it, but it's exclusive to Miata RF.

http://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/1/4/9/7...dc4ce7ec35.jpg

I am not a big fan of bells and whistles, but it looks better in Mazda.

I agree!
I would love to have all that data available but the presentation just looks like they crammed it in where they could (which is exactly what they did I guess).

Literally. Like it would sooo much cleaner if they made the whole gauge pod an LCD round screen, with the G displays and Lap timer, it'd look like a nice ass racecar.

Parts bin LCD screen?

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-...oost-gauge.jpg

Someone mentioned they hope it incorporates navi. You would need to wear a jewellers eyepiece to see it ! LOL. So its the WRX onboard display features, but smaller screen and lap timer, g meter and some engine performance paramters added.

Funny how they are getting more and more feature rich each year. Perhaps the next gen twins will be a nice trade up for current owners.

Then, the step down SFR and the big step up FT1. Who ever thought Toyota would once again be a sports car maker. I am worried the FT1 will be too good to pass on :bonk:

+1
It looks awful, almost laughable what they did. Cheap and cheerful!

Bummer on the torque dip and not having an actual tire pressure read out. :(

The dip is yet to confirmed and they have to draw the line on the gadgets at some point or it will morph into a $40K car in a hurry. Ain't nothin' is free in the long run.

Adding $5 sensor isn't going to jack up the price from 27K to 40K. We're just so used to marketing pitch, our brains adjust to thinking it would jack up the price by that much.

You are right adding one would not but I am looking at total picture not one sensor (4 actually). If the tire pressure gauge was there then people would say why doesn't it have X and if X was there then it should have Y and so on until it is the price of a BMW. Adding extras has to have a cut off point someplace or it can just keep snowballing.
If the guestimated prices are accurate then I think they did a great job of giving extras while maintaining price point with what they have done.

Shouldn't the twin already have TPMS on each corner? They just need to digitize and display the info on screen. Subaru also have that on the feature on their other cars. It's a matter of adding a few lines of code and testing it. R&D's job is to keep making improvement on the products. If it's a low volume product, have a small dedicated group works on it. Not like they create a new feature like Eyesight that would eat up a huge chunk of the resource. Guess Subaru just like to go cheap on everything.

Aye, but every penny spent is a potential lose of $$$.

Let's say they sell 30K combined FR-S and BRZs globally in 2017.

30,000 x 4 sensors (20$) = $600,000 /yr.

Let's say they keep it around for at least 3 years. That is $1.8M for 1 feature that we must ask, is it necessary? Or will it increase sales?

Toyota/ Subaru have to be working on thin margins with the Twin. So I could guess the cost engineers have already ruled out a number of wanted features. The target audience for these cars obviously aren't people concerned with ease-of-access features, comfort, or long-term value.

If you read my post thoroughly, I mentioned that adding sensors will not jack up the price from 27K to 40K (13K difference for each car). I also mentioned the twin already have TPMS sensors.

I don't mind them charging a 300-500% profit margin on convenience feature. Toyota and Subaru should ask themselves what they do wrong, why is the car not as successful as muscle cars? Is it the power? Can they make up power number with something else? Is it design? Can they do better with the same money? Is it the standard features and options? Fuji/Subaru and Toyota are not small companies and they obviously can't make their car better overall than competitors.

I'm a Subie owner, and I think Subaru have done a phenomenal job overall, but they can do better on their performance side.

Just my .02

Don't forget in general that anything added like this cost's much more for the corporation than the actual price of the item. You have to implement whatever thing into the whole process, like manuals, service, development, training, quality control, warranty, logistics etc etc. Implementing anything to the product of a big corp is expensive.

Right. That's why they normally add a bunch of stuff in at the refresh. They had opportunity to do so this time around, but they didn't.