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Ultramaroon 06-05-2016 06:26 PM

What's the best seat for a stupid tall, fat guy?
 
A buddy of mine wants to know. He's six five, three & a quarter.

swarb 06-05-2016 06:51 PM

How fat? er wide? Usually american seats are on the wider side. Kirkley BIG BOYhttps://www.kirkeyracing.com/product...AYBACK-BIG-BOY
They aren't too comfortable though.

Ultramaroon 06-05-2016 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2671657)
How fat? er wide? Usually american seats are on the wider side. Kirkley BIG BOYhttps://www.kirkeyracing.com/product...AYBACK-BIG-BOY
They aren't too comfortable though.

Haha... I'm not too bad. Big, though. That does look wide enough but you make a good point. Long-distance comfort is key.

Tell you what, that thing looks like it has the potential to make an excellent shell for a custom job.

humfrz 06-05-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671635)
A buddy of mine wants to know. He's six five, three & a quarter.

How about the seats in a Buick ....... ;)


humfrz

gramicci101 06-05-2016 08:12 PM

Sparco Evo II US or Evo III?

The Evo II says medium/tall; the Evo II US just says large.
http://www.sparcousa.com/product/evo-ii-us

billwot 06-05-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671635)
A buddy of mine wants to know. He's six five, three & a quarter.

The ones in a Tundra.

swarb 06-05-2016 08:43 PM

evo3 or evo xl
Need to find out his width, not just waist size. Some guys are all stomach and no hips. At bigger sizes seats don't scale too well with waist size.
Also with bigger sizes you run in to issues with the shoulder bolster hitting the door panel. Might need to trim it. And the shoulder harness holes might be too low if he has a long back.

chaoskaze 06-05-2016 08:43 PM

Sti seats?...>__>

Ultramaroon 06-05-2016 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2671720)
evo3 or evo xl
Need to find out his width, not just waist size. Some guys are all stomach and no hips. At bigger sizes seats don't scale too well with waist size.
Also with bigger sizes you run in to issues with the shoulder bolster hitting the door panel. Might need to trim it. And the shoulder harness holes might be too low if he has a long back.

My, I mean his hips are about 17-18 inches wide. Just measured :D

Long back & wide shoulders. Not above a custom bucket if that's what it takes. I've just never done this.

So, that's what the 21" measurement is? I see where this could become a challenge. I mostly want to get lower and still comfy. Otherwise, I like the stock seat. 12 hours, no problem.

edit: just noticed the custom section of their website. I see the light.

gramicci101 06-05-2016 09:06 PM

The Evo is a fixed back seat. The seating angle might be too steep for your head to clear the roof, especially with a helmet.

gramicci101 06-05-2016 09:24 PM

The Recaro Profi SPG also comes in XL. Still a fixed back seat. It's side mount, so it can sit lower than a bottom mount.

https://www.recaro-automotive.com/us...iberglass.html

Keep in mind that in the event of a rollover, if you're in a fixed back seat the roof will collapse and the seat will not, which means your head probably will when the roof hits it. It might be worth looking for a reclinable seat.

swarb 06-05-2016 09:29 PM

An idea for tall guys is to get a higher angle seat back and lean the seat back and elevate the legs, so the legs are elevated(and bent) creating a more angles to stuff that big body in there. Gives more room for a helmet. Steering wheel distance may be compromised though.
http://www.f1pulse.com/UserFiles/Ima...l-Insights.jpg

imaguitar 06-05-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2671756)
An idea for tall guys is to get a higher angle seat back and lean the seat back and elevate the legs, so the legs are elevated(and bent) creating a more angles to stuff that big body in there. Gives more room for a helmet. Steering wheel distance may be compromised though.
http://www.f1pulse.com/UserFiles/Ima...l-Insights.jpg

LOL imagine an F1 seating position for daily driving..

Tcoat 06-05-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by imaguitar (Post 2671759)
LOL imagine an F1 seating position for daily driving..

Odds are that I would fall asleep on my commute.

imaguitar 06-05-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2671768)
Odds are that I would fall asleep on my commute.

Yeah they actually look quite comfortable huh. lol I've always thought that dentist chairs were really comfortable too.

Ultramaroon 06-05-2016 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2671749)
Keep in mind that in the event of a rollover, if you're in a fixed back seat the roof will collapse and the seat will not, which means your head probably will when the roof hits it. It might be worth looking for a reclinable seat.

Sage advice.

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2671756)
An idea for tall guys is to get a higher angle seat back and lean the seat back and elevate the legs, so the legs are elevated(and bent) creating a more angles to stuff that big body in there. Gives more room for a helmet. Steering wheel distance may be compromised though.
http://www.f1pulse.com/UserFiles/Ima...l-Insights.jpg

This is actually the direction I'm going. I used spacers and an extension under the front of the seat rails in my 240Z. I understand now that it is frowned upon and I can see why. Submarining is also a concern.

My plans are to extend the telescoping feature of the steering column while maintaining all the stock features, including airbag. There is a balance between collapse to prevent impalement and enough rigidity to support airbag deployment. This will still be my daily/XC rig.

Thanks, guys! There is lots here for me to chew on.

swarb 06-06-2016 12:45 AM

@Ultramaroon "a friend of mine" "my plans" no shame in being American sized. Let me know how you plan to extend the steering wheel. I have short arms and would like know how you get it done.

soulreapersteve 06-06-2016 12:52 AM

You aren't fat... you just big boned.

:P

Ultramaroon 06-06-2016 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2671878)
@Ultramaroon "a friend of mine" "my plans" no shame in being American sized. Let me know how you plan to extend the steering wheel. I have short arms and would like know how you get it done.

I was just having some fun. :D

I will let you know for sure. Gotta get all the column assembly out of a wrecked one and study it. I've been underneath mine a few times and it looks doable.

I've gained about 90 lbs in 10 years of happy marriage. :)

FX86 06-06-2016 01:14 AM

the red one
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...1b4c251d1c.jpg

gramicci101 06-06-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671834)
Sage advice.

This is why CSG Mike absolutely, categorically refuses to recommend a fixed back seat to someone without a roll cage, or a roll cage to someone without a fixed back seat, or a harness with a reclining seat, or OEM belts with a cage. In an accident, if one thing moves and the other doesn't, bad things happen to the person in between. So either it can all flex (reclining seat, no cage, OEM belts), or it's all solid (fixed back seat, cage, harnesses), but you shouldn't mix between the two.

kch 06-06-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671635)
A buddy of mine wants to know. He's six five, three & a quarter.

I know Phil at Moto-East uses/used a Sparco Ergo with the VAC seat mounts. And he's like 6'7" and a big guy.

Ultramaroon 06-06-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2672279)
This is why CSG Mike absolutely, categorically refuses to recommend a fixed back seat to someone without a roll cage, or a roll cage to someone without a fixed back seat, or a harness with a reclining seat, or OEM belts with a cage. In an accident, if one thing moves and the other doesn't, bad things happen to the person in between. So either it can all flex (reclining seat, no cage, OEM belts), or it's all solid (fixed back seat, cage, harnesses), but you shouldn't mix between the two.

It really is all very deliberately designed to work in harmony. Truth be told, I'm torn about the whole undertaking. Seating position is 90% there and I'm still thrilled I can fit at all.

why? 06-06-2016 02:49 PM

The problem I found was shoulder width when I looked. Even the larger seats don't have much shoulder room, and I frankly just gave up looking.

Can you just take the stock seats off the rails and connect them directly to the floor?

Tcoat 06-06-2016 02:55 PM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2606/4...22e1e182_b.jpg

fumanchu1 06-06-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671896)
I was just having some fun. :D

I will let you know for sure. Gotta get all the column assembly out of a wrecked one and study it. I've been underneath mine a few times and it looks doable.

I've gained about 90 lbs in 10 years of happy marriage. :)

you're the wife ?!

Shady195 06-06-2016 03:14 PM

I'm also currently trying to find a decent fixed back for my fat ass

I'm anywhere between a 38-42 waist depending on the pants. 6'1 235lbs. Needs to be FIA approved as well, which is what makes it tough.

G-awesome 06-06-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2671898)

damn! you beat me to it. :lol:

Ultramaroon 06-06-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 2672425)
Can you just take the stock seats off the rails and connect them directly to the floor?

Hmmm... custom bracket? You may be onto something.
Quote:

Originally Posted by fumanchu1 (Post 2672454)
you're the wife ?!

Damn, I have no retort. Here, take my man card.

Talus1 06-06-2016 07:44 PM

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Ultramaroon 06-06-2016 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Talus1 (Post 2672775)

Hey, that's just what I look like getting into my frs!

WhiteRose 06-07-2016 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2671741)
The Evo is a fixed back seat. The seating angle might be too steep for your head to clear the roof, especially with a helmet.

Even if the seat sits high, with a lower bracket will be enough to drop him down 3/4 of an inch.

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WhiteRose 06-07-2016 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by imaguitar (Post 2671759)
LOL imagine an F1 seating position for daily driving..

I heard it's really comfy

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why? 06-07-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2672667)
Hmmm... custom bracket? You may be onto something.

Damn, I have no retort. Here, take my man card.

At some point in the past someone was going to try to make something but nothing came of it. I am sure people who have actual experience (unlike me) with such things could figure it out and make it work.

Tcoat 06-07-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2672667)
Hmmm... custom bracket? You may be onto something.

Make up a bracket. Install in your car. Ship car down to me. I will have crash tested for you. If we have a dummy large and heavy enough. Make sure you get it right though since we only get one crack at it.

Ultramaroon 06-07-2016 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2673227)
Make up a bracket. Install in your car. Ship car down to me. I will have crash tested for you. If we have a dummy large and heavy enough. Make sure you get it right though since we only get one crack at it.

lolol... glad I wasn't drinking coffee. :cheers:

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Originally Posted by WhiteRose (Post 2673169)
I heard it's really comfy

Same deal with F-16s. Also really comfy.

Dadhawk 06-07-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2672955)
Hey, that's just what I look like getting into my frs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2673227)
Make up a bracket. Install in your car. Ship car down to me. I will have crash tested for you. If we have a dummy large and heavy enough. Make sure you get it right though since we only get one crack at it.

On this week's Top Gear:FT86Club....

@Ultramaroon demonstrates how to fit a big guy into a reasonably sized car
@Tcoat tests some new brackets
@Dadhawk kills some feral pigs with his Suburban....

saj 06-07-2016 06:37 PM

Losing weight might be easier than finding said seat.

johan 06-07-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671834)
My plans are to extend the telescoping feature of the steering column while maintaining all the stock features, including airbag. There is a balance between collapse to prevent impalement and enough rigidity to support airbag deployment. This will still be my daily/XC rig.

If you figure out how to extend the steering column more in a 100% functional / safe way. I'm in. The stock setup is not enough for me either. Last 2 times I drove a BMW, I was REALLY drawn to how far the telescope goes. It's like they really actually care about you being able to tune all of the driver interfaces to your body's needs. My arms are definitely too extended in this car when I have the seat all the way back. So much so that for the last couple months I've been driving with the seat one click forward... which at our heights, you know that's not ideal.

Ultramaroon 06-07-2016 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan (Post 2673793)
If you figure out how to extend the steering column more in a 100% functional / safe way. I'm in.

You and the regular crew will be the first to know. :cheers:


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