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DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 04:52 PM

Invidia N1 Exhaust Noise In Ontario
 
Im about to purchase a N1 Exhaust. My friends are telling me im retarded because its too loud and im going to get pulled over.

Is there anyone in Toronto, Markham and these areas who have the Invidia N1 and who has gotten pulled over because their exhaust is too loud?

Are cops allowed to give me a ticket, arrest me and etc for having this exhaust?

brzzy 06-01-2016 05:09 PM

Arrest you, no. Ticket, yes.

AFAIK the N1 unit comes with silencers as well. Maybe someone who has the setup can chime in and confirm.


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dre208 06-01-2016 05:20 PM

I've got the N1 with silencers in. Personally it was too loud for me without the silencers as it drones quite a bit. The silencers aren't a perfect fit though, so they rattle quite a bit until the car comes up to temp.

As for trouble with the cops, I've had no problems with them with the silencers in. Never had any problems either when I didn't have the silencers for the first couple weeks.

Mr.Impreza 06-01-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668150)
Im about to purchase a N1 Exhaust. My friends are telling me im retarded because its too loud and im going to get pulled over.

Is there anyone in Toronto, Markham and these areas who have the Invidia N1 and who has gotten pulled over because their exhaust is too loud?

Are cops allowed to give me a ticket, arrest me and etc for having this exhaust?

Wow, your friends must be some great mature people to actually stop you LOL...usually it's the other way around "YO BRO, STRAIGHT PIPE!"

If your car is too loud, yes the police will stop you. Ticket you and begin to look at everything around you car to see what else they can ticket while there at it and in some cases even make you do a emissions test if the detect cat removals etc....

Think of it this way...loud exhaust attract people. Your telling everyone to look at you. So cops will also look over ;)

From what i know, the N1 is only a good choice if you plan to keep everything else in the exhaust stock.

I'll tell you though, the best feeling is when you have a quiet exhaust (aftermarket) and you can still give it a lot of gas beside a cop or when his behind you and never get bothered because the car is still quiet :)

DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 05:34 PM

I plan on keeping everything stock after the N1. I'm going to focus purely on cosmetic mods after that. My tint is also 33% which is afaik very close to legal, 35%.


If I don't like drive like a douchebag, you think it'd be safe?

Forgot to mention, I drive an automatic so my RPMs shift at 2.5k so it won't go terribly loud.

Mr.Impreza 06-01-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668201)
I plan on keeping everything stock after the N1. I'm going to focus purely on cosmetic mods after that. My tint is also 33% which is afaik very close to legal, 35%.


If I don't like drive like a douchebag, you think it'd be safe?

Forgot to mention, I drive an automatic so my RPMs shift at 2.5k so it won't go terribly loud.

Cops never care about tint. I've had 20% tine on all my cars for the past 10 years and never had issues. The only time they could bug you about it is if you've been pulled over for something like loud exhaust and see that you've clearly been modding. Again, depends on the officer of course.

I don't think you will have problems if you don't drive like a douchbag :)
Cops aren't there to pull over modded cars, they are there to enforce the law. So if you drive safe and don't get rev happy near a cop you won't have issues for the most part.

dre208 06-01-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668201)
I plan on keeping everything stock after the N1. I'm going to focus purely on cosmetic mods after that. My tint is also 33% which is afaik very close to legal, 35%.


If I don't like drive like a douchebag, you think it'd be safe?

Forgot to mention, I drive an automatic so my RPMs shift at 2.5k so it won't go terribly loud.

It's pretty loud as is but you should be fine as long as you don't drive like a douche. I actually bought mine off another forum member here and he said he's never had any problems with it.

geezerbrzeezer 06-01-2016 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668150)
Im about to purchase a N1 Exhaust. My friends are telling me im retarded because its too loud and im going to get pulled over.

Is there anyone in Toronto, Markham and these areas who have the Invidia N1 and who has gotten pulled over because their exhaust is too loud?

Are cops allowed to give me a ticket, arrest me and etc for having this exhaust?

Retarded is not pc, but if it's good enough for Howard Stern, it's good enough for me. Although, Wendy, I believe, is now referred to as Wendy the slow adult. Possibly just as npc.

But, I digress.

As has been eloquently stated, there will be consequences to making yourself more 'noticeable'. Not necessarily good ones.

Run that on a BRZ in other than 'snow mode', and, good luck to you.

Run it on your Tesla and you should be fine.

DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dre208 (Post 2668224)
It's pretty loud as is but you should be fine as long as you don't drive like a douche. I actually bought mine off another forum member here and he said he's never had any problems with it.


How's the drone from 1.5k-2.5k?

congee 06-01-2016 06:09 PM

Have a buddy who drives with an n1 and catless front pipe. Loud af but no tickets

Barusu 06-01-2016 06:11 PM

They can't arrest you and I doubt you will get ticketed (depending on how you drive), but to be safe like others have mentioned you can use the supplied silencers that come with the exhaust.

I have one on my BRZ and until I upgraded to headers I didn't stress about the exhaust noise. It does have a slight drone, but personally it was nothing to fuss about if it's going to be your only exhaust modification.

dre208 06-01-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668229)
How's the drone from 1.5k-2.5k?

In that range not too bad but around 3-3.5k ,where it's normally at while on highways for AT, it's pretty bad to me personally. It's a huge difference from OEM. I find it just perfect for me with the silencers.

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DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 06:26 PM

Thanks for the quick replies guys.

From what I gathered, it's not that bad but there is some drone to it which should be tolerable. If not, I can always put the silencers in.

As for cops, it shouldn't be an issue since it's AT and I'll be careful.


Is it easy to put the silencers on? Show em into the exhaust tip?

dre208 06-01-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668250)
Thanks for the quick replies guys.

From what I gathered, it's not that bad but there is some drone to it which should be tolerable. If not, I can always put the silencers in.

As for cops, it shouldn't be an issue since it's AT and I'll be careful.


Is it easy to put the silencers on? Show em into the exhaust tip?

Oops that's not where my rpms sit lol (end of workday I'm tired) but that's the range I found it worst for me.

Silencers are easy just shove them in and bolt it on.

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DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 06:35 PM

My RPMs usually sits around 2k-2.5k on highways.

krayzie 06-01-2016 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668250)
Thanks for the quick replies guys.

From what I gathered, it's not that bad but there is some drone to it which should be tolerable. If not, I can always put the silencers in.

As for cops, it shouldn't be an issue since it's AT and I'll be careful.


Is it easy to put the silencers on? Show em into the exhaust tip?

Dam the silencers don't look all that great to be honest.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xh3J8r-IgpM/maxresdefault.jpg

Why don't you look into just getting a quieter exhaust so you don't need to drive it at 2500rpm forever. Don't they make something called the Q300?

BTW droning on the hwy at cruising speeds really sucks you'll get a headache.

DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 2668258)
Dam the silencers don't look all that great to be honest.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xh3J8r-IgpM/maxresdefault.jpg

Why don't you look into just getting a quieter exhaust so you don't need to drive it at 2500rpm forever. Don't they make something called the Q300?

BTW droning on the hwy at cruising speeds really sucks you'll get a headache.

Yeah the silencers are really bad.

I'd only put that on if I know i'm going to be going long distance, for example driving to the US.

I looked into the Q300 but people said it's only slightly louder than stock. Im currently running a GReddy sp Elite which was apparently a bit louder than stock too. Needless to say, it was way too quiet, basically no difference.

The only thing I am worried about is highway without the silencers. I wish I could sit in a N1 first but nobody I know has one.

dre208 06-01-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 2668258)
Dam the silencers don't look all that great to be honest.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xh3J8r-IgpM/maxresdefault.jpg

Why don't you look into just getting a quieter exhaust so you don't need to drive it at 2500rpm forever. Don't they make something called the Q300?

BTW droning on the hwy at cruising speeds really sucks you'll get a headache.

That's exactly why I put in the silencers. They're ugly but they do the job. Lol too poor to go get the q300

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DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dre208 (Post 2668264)
That's exactly why I put in the silencers. They're ugly but they do the job. Lol too poor to go get the q300

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I actually coulda got a Q300 for cheaper than the N1. But the N1 is newer and the Q300 is being shipped from a seller in the US.

Kazuya 06-01-2016 07:29 PM

You guys haven't heard noise problems or drone until you're catless. This car is stupid loud.

AREN 06-01-2016 07:41 PM

Yes it will drone, however some owners report less drone with UEL headers. So either just use the silencers for highway trips or choose/save up for other options more tame options such as Corsa, Perrin (resonated), Dezod or Q300.

ButeraFRS 06-01-2016 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazuya (Post 2668307)
You guys haven't heard noise problems or drone until you're catless. This car is stupid loud.

I know the headers reduce a lot of sound so completely catless is nothing compared to what I'm running, but in 3 weeks I'll be doing a trip to the east coast and I'm running a catless front pipe plus muffler delete. Wish me luck :thumbup:

SLVRSRFR 06-01-2016 08:32 PM

I have a muffler delete. My friend in Bolton with an FR-S has the N1. He told me my car is louder than his. I've heard him pull up to redline and I think the sound level itself is about the same, but I noticed my muffler delete has a more "mature" sound than the N1; a bit deeper. I personally think the N1 adds some unattractive rasp to the exhaust note that makes it sound more like a Civic, whereas I have ZERO rasp. I do get some drone, but I really don't mind it. And lots of backfire, which I DO like. I've always driven loud cars so it's kind of a preference, and I'm used to it. I should also say I'm also all-stock except for the muffler delete, so if I decide to go catless in the future, I would definitely invest in an axle-back instead. Catless AND muffler delete would be too loud for me.

Perhaps I personally am the wrong one to ask, because I am not a huge fan of the look of "cannister" style exhausts anymore, so the N1 has too much of a "boy racer" look for me. But that's personal preference.

In terms of the 5-0, my car is pretty loud and I haven't even had a second glance from a cop ye, and I've had this muffler delete on the car for over 2 years now. The one time I did get pulled over (for speeding), he didn't even mention the exhaust. I also heard rumours that Peel Police are cracking down on loud exhausts; I have recently driven RIGHT NEXT TO a Peel Police cruiser in traffic and he didn't so much as glance.

What has been said before is true; loud or not loud, don't drive like an asshole and you won't call any more attention to yourself. There's lots of loud cars out there (aftermarket or just shitty old cars with an exhaust leak) and not every single one of them gets pulled for noise.

skribblez 06-01-2016 08:41 PM

Currently running the Berk dual muffler deleted pipes and have no troubles with cops. Been told it was similar loudness to the N1 (if not louder).

I once rev'd up to 4-5k range around a cop (Yes i'm quite ballsy), and he didn't bat an eye. Only time I got pulled over was at night and a ride check. Other than that enjoy the car, you'll get used to the drone.

FR-Sky 06-01-2016 08:47 PM

Just buy it. I have been through all this curiosity.

DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 09:19 PM

Just bought it. Installing on friday. Wish me luck on the highway.

krayzie 06-01-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2668373)
I personally think the N1 adds some unattractive rasp to the exhaust note that makes it sound more like a Civic, whereas I have ZERO rasp.

This is exactly what I don't understand with the aftermarket. I watched that four part XaCar YouTube video on 86/BRZ exhausts and almost all of them have this rasp sound to it, like it needs a cough drop or something.

Lorne 06-01-2016 10:13 PM

I thought I was going to hate the N1 after I installed it and took it for a ride... I looked at my brother in the passenger seat and said "dude, no way this is way too loud." but after about 3 months, I'm used to it and it doesn't even feel like the car has changed.

If you keep it right about 3k rpm the exhaust is barely noticeable. So when you see a cop, make sure you watch your gauge. Only at above 4K does it start to get loud. I find if the engine is under load (say like going up a steep hill) it gets droney and buzzy. Overall one of the best sounding exhaust in my opinion though.

wparsons 06-01-2016 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668201)
I plan on keeping everything stock after the N1. I'm going to focus purely on cosmetic mods after that. My tint is also 33% which is afaik very close to legal, 35%.


If I don't like drive like a douchebag, you think it'd be safe?

Forgot to mention, I drive an automatic so my RPMs shift at 2.5k so it won't go terribly loud.

Just an FYI, there's no legal limit for tint. Technically any tint is illegal in Ontario, but generally as long as an officer can tell your gender at night with the windows up you're ok.

DGM-BRZ 06-01-2016 11:09 PM

It's up to the officers discretion is what I heard. But generally, 35% tint is safe.

WhiteBRZ4 06-01-2016 11:26 PM

ive got tomei UEL, tomei mid pipe, invidia catless front pipe, and n1 exhaust, drive smart and you won't be pulled over. launch every light and redline shifts = pulled over

dowfu86 06-02-2016 07:16 AM

I agree with everyone saying to drive smart, if you see a cop just shift at lower RPMS

had an S2000, catless with greddy TI-C single exhaust. loud as fk and smelled really bad, had a friend with S5 that said he couldnt drive behind me because he was getting dizzy from the smell. i also had HP plus pads so it was noisy going and stopping

I've had cops tail me many times and was never pulled over.

when i picked up my ex GFs before i would never need to text hey im here cause they would hear me a block away.

skribblez 06-02-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dowfu86 (Post 2668748)
I agree with everyone saying to drive smart, if you see a cop just shift at lower RPMS

had an S2000, catless with greddy TI-C single exhaust. loud as fk and smelled really bad, had a friend with S5 that said he couldnt drive behind me because he was getting dizzy from the smell. i also had HP plus pads so it was noisy going and stopping

I've had cops tail me many times and was never pulled over.

when i picked up my ex GFs before i would never need to text hey im here cause they would hear me a block away.

LOL The last line what I bought my loud exhaust for. :lol::lol:

drewbot 06-02-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2668373)
I also heard rumours that Peel Police are cracking down on loud exhausts; I have recently driven RIGHT NEXT TO a Peel Police cruiser in traffic and he didn't so much as glance.

These rumors are true. I live about 2 blocks from a local Peel station and have driven numerous times beside the police.

I've seen them pullover cars on Erin Mills Pkwy, but most of them were of the "Honda Civic fartcan" variety. Probably because they can also book them for other various unsafe looking mods, with uncessarily large windshield banners, etc.

wparsons 06-02-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DGM-BRZ (Post 2668521)
It's up to the officers discretion is what I heard. But generally, 35% tint is safe.

You're right that 35% should be totally fine, but the HTA specifically says no tint is allowed so you *could* be ticketed if the officer wanted to.

cbro 06-02-2016 09:40 PM

curious to get your feedback on the exhaust

theres only so much you can get from watching youtube

DGM-BRZ 06-02-2016 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbro (Post 2669523)
curious to get your feedback on the exhaust

theres only so much you can get from watching youtube


I'll let you know tomorrow after I install.

choiboie 06-03-2016 02:11 AM

I ran the n1 with berk test pipe. It's was loud but your still able to control it... And the drone got annoying. Everytime I let off the pedal it would just drone unless I kept my foot on. I Installed a hks dual resonated front pipe. City driving is much better as well as hwy cruising.. with everything stock and just the n1 catback you should be fine.

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choiboie 06-03-2016 02:13 AM

I bought some dynomat that I'm going to cover my trunk with this weekend hoping to bring down the cabin noise a lil.

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eddieflyinv 06-03-2016 05:47 AM

Invidia N1 and Tanabe Catless FP and I have never had any issues with the Police.
It's loud but really not that loud unless you're on it.

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