Scion's big announcement!?! Coming on April 20.
 

Alright, so Scion has this big announcement and they launched a countdown microsite for it.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...88968594473170

Could be the FT-86? I hope not.:thumbdown:

How many days is ny auto show away???

It opens for the public on April 22, with 20 and 21 being press days. I think.

So hopefully we will get some info on the 19th from a die hard fan... LOL...

Gave me the geebees. What unsightly morning news to read about.

Is Toyota seriously insane? hopefully not. Why don't they just badge it Toyota Celica or whatever sound good.

My boy thinks it's a countdown for the Scion Dimensions event like they did last year where you can drive different vehicles and stuff.

I wounder why everyone hate scion? I mean even if the ft86 comes as scion in the end we all WIN just driving the ft86 everyday, dont we ?

Toyota doesn't win, cause we'll hate them while driving a car we feel should be a Toyota brand.

On top of that, I can't get Scion here. I have to drive 13 hours just to start seeing Scions on the road, and even then they are rare because everyone already bought something else.

So with that said, I hope Dragonitti is right.

Just our pride gets in the way driving Scion. If I write this, I know Dragon gonna come to flame me, but typically Scion as teenager riced out car... & yes, I know that that's not the case, but it just come automatic just like Miata been defined as chick car (even tho that's not the case).

The FT86 was inspired by toyotas sports car of the past so to see something that is suppose to remind me of a toyota car be badge something else is kinda meeehh to me

tho rebadge will deff be #1 1st mod for many

Why re-badge when you already have FT-86's sibling with different mother? :)
What you said is true tho. Why did they have to talk a lot about bringing passion back to Toyota when they bring it as a Scion here? Toyota USA has no passion?

Toyota USA's car line up is homogenized and boring. But it sells cars so they don't want to "disturb" the waters there I guess?

True, they don't want to risk adding one good machine to the stable because it will bother those boring econo boxes (except Land Cruiser) to hell. I know the car will sell well in Scion's stable, but how many 2 door Scion needs?

Scion have/had... 3 (if you count old one & to come)? tC, xA & iQ

I thought xA is 4 doors only? I could be wrong tho.

You're right. Sorry, I was wrong. Well then 2. :)

Scions are Toyotas. There's no difference. The only shame is that Scion will mean 'no options.' Which bodes ill for getting factory LSD and multiple body styles. If the rest of the world gets a liftback option and we won't, I'll be :mad0259:.

It also means that dealers are limited and at bigger distances (at least that's what the American members are saying, and it's 100% believeable). And also I predict that the car won't get a second gen(will be a fail) if it's branded as a Scion, simply because of the lack of tradition Scion has in producing sports cars, and the limited numbers of dealers.

Ichi, I think we should write letters directly to Toyota. :P Stating they'll flop like the CR-Z if they don't listen.

And it'll bring dishonor to the family.

What the others said and the fact that it's stupid, the rumors said that they want to save the brand with the FT-86, but when were sports cars brand savers for volume brands? Never.
If they want brand savers, they should flood the dealerships with new models that have mass sales potential, like the euro Aygo, something from the many JDM only Toyotas or a new compact truck, with the dimensions of a Ford F100
http://www.vootar.com/imgs/elementos...ToyotaAygo.jpg

:laughabove: Don't know if this will work, especially if you email Toyota US, they will just give you an almost standard replay, telling you that they can't discuss the subject at the moment, or that your suggestion has been passed on, been there, done that, a while ago. Not sure how Toyota Japan will react. :iono:

Scion dealers are widespread. And even if there isn't one in your area, who cares? All Toyota dealers service Scions.

As for tradition in producing sports cars? It has the same amount as Toyota, since it is literally the same company. The FT-86 will be a Toyota outside of North America. So will it magically lose its 'tradition' when they slap a Scion badge on the US version? That doesn't make any sense.

Replacing the Toyota badge with a Scion badge is like replacing the Royal coat of arms of the United Kingdom with a banana and a flamingo or like replacing the red, white and blue from the American flag with red, yellow and green. It's one of those small details that appeal to the emotional side of the people. Also Nissan is Renault and Renault is Nissan, since they exchanged stocks, but you don't see the 370Z or the GT-R with Renault badges in Europe.:bellyroll:

Considering Scion's target demographic it seems quite fitting they would announce something on 4/20 :party0030:

Scions are sold at the Toyota dealership. They don't have separated Scion only dealerships. Thus no limitation or distance you speak of.




You have to blame that on the Honda rice boys who drove around in beater riced out Civics trying to race any and everyone then moved up to a Scion. Scion makes a lot more torque than their little D16 did.

Would a GT-R with a Renault badge be any worse of a car?

No it would he exactly the same, but while I would buy a Nissan Gtr without a second thought, I would not be seen dead in a renault
But none of this applies to me since scion doesn't exist in australia, Toyota AUS is smart ;)
Let me ask you
Would you buy a sports car made by daihatsu?

:reposthorse::reposthorse::reposthorse::reposthors e::reposthorse::reposthorse::reposthorse:

tbh...shouldnt we be more worried about the capabilities of the engine right now? it's my greatest fear...and the interior

Better start collecting your toyota badges now =)

Of course not, but they didn't do that, they even fought the temptation of selling it as an Infiniti, because they got the point(and my:respekt:) of reviving legends of the car world, they know that people form emotional links with products they are enthusiastic about, and changing details would just blow up the whole point of reviving the product. Not to mention that in this case Toyota needs an image boost more then Scion.

I personally don't care. I'm not out for resale value or anything, but if it flopped and they made no 2nd gen, wouldn't it suffice to say the value would go up akin to the Supra? They are WAY overpriced (no offense) in the US and its dumb. They are good cars, but had they still been in production, they wouldn't be worth half as much I'd guess.

Was referring to Toyota JP. Sorry for the confusion. :P

I bet the Japanese members of this forum would do it... if they "had time." haha

well most of them are stuck at home...

Actually they do, but just not here in TN Dragon, lol.

I know in SoCal there are separate Scion dealerships.

Same here. We have two separate dealerships for Toyota & Scion. I always wonder why they do that... but again it's separate dealerships for Lexus & Toyota, so maybe that's why :iono:

i've been to many different dealers in socal and never have a seen a dealership exclusive to scion...its always been a toyota dealership with a scion department...but who knows.

also this thread is useless, its a repost of what i posted in the ny auto show thread

You know what....all this time I never realized you were in TN...lol. What part man? You ever do any of the TN Drift events? Or come to NSS HPDE days? Be cool to put a face to the SN.

A while back (like 4-5 years) I was a regular at SCCA meets at the speedway. Been to a few of the drift events, participated in one, TurkiDori, but that was, again, years ago.

I haven't done much on those scenes since the AE86 decided it was finally old enough to start giving me issues. I've been out of the mix so long I don't even know who organizes the current drift events. It used to be SEDA. I did hear about drift nights at the Nashville Fairground's track though, using the infield.

guys!.... i just had a mindf__k moment!! what if....now... WHAT IF... scion shows a car that looks closer to the first concept? and the 2nd concept was meant for europe all along??