What is different with this pic ....
 

Can u spot the difference?

http://www.swiftracing.com/SRT/Images/frs/sttb/sttb.jpg

Real question is, can the driver spot the difference?

Can the driver "feel" the difference?

All is see is a strut bar.

The real question is, did strut tower flex change at all because of the bar.

I do like the simple design though.

the colour of the car is brown?
lol

i know the answer!

there are exactly 57 ninjas in this picture

just the strut bar :P

^^ Haha.

A simple answer to all questions is "Yes"

The stock units are tied to the firewall, and you still get flex/movement in the towers when the car is pushed hard/suddenly into a turn. This bar gives you better and a more precise "feel" of the front end being planted to the ground, and by reducing the flex it can improve cornering ability of the vehicle.

Our's is made from CNC machined flanges on the ends and uses the same diameter tubing as OE as well as wall thickness. Weight of the unit is only 2 lbs.

Standard Finish is wrinkle Black giving it a complete 100% OE Look.

Since everything is precise CNC machined, the fit is OE perfect and best of all it is 100% made in the USA with US materials. :thumbup:

And lastly it is a simple upgrade that is affordable and takes less than 5 minutes to install.

Link for our commercial post:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...850#post293850

Does it mount to both bolts on the strut tower or just one? What is it made of; Steel/Aluminum?

proof? have you done deflection tests? This isn't a 1990 Honda Civic or Mustang.

You're dead. There were 58. :D

Both dead. There are 59. You forgot the one holding the camera. :D

It mounts to both bolts. It is made from tubular steel same as factory.

The proof is in the feel of actual driving, but if you want to pay thousands to get the actual proof by getting deflection tests done for a part that costs $100 please you are more than welcome to. I really hope it is not a 1990 Honda Civic :bonk:

you can also take a shower curtain rod, securly attach both ends to the strut towers, and apply some model clay/putty at the point where the inner and outer rods meet

go for a spirited drive

if the putty shifts then you got deflection



but whatever :bonk:

Do you have a pic of one un-installed?

Not SCCA stock class legal.

The hood is open. And there is a triangle thingy bolted down.

Maybe good price for a hundred but don't look strong enough.

What would legal be? If it was all one piece? Stock is 'replace' not 'add' or something like that?

Don't quote me, but I believe for stock class or the more stock classes stipulate replacement has have the same mounting/attachment points as the OEM piece.

you can also cut it in half.. and roll one wheel up a ramp. leave the other wheel on the ground. and measure how much the bar halves deflect from each other if they do. its only one axis, but should be very easy to do, and proves plenty.

The whole hoods been removed.

I've asked this is another thread or two before but no one gave me even a bad response. I'm not trolling here but why is this a good mod? I can see what it does but I feel like what we would REALLY want are more beefy versions of the stock bars connecting the strut tops to the firewall. What's the point of mounting the strut towers together?

The post above me by "eight-six" gives me some understanding but I still can't help but think this would do more harm than good.


For the record I AM familiar with strut bars and have even had them on a past car until I gave it away to a friend because I didn't find it to do anything at all.

100$ for a that kind of expensive.

Rather clever. I like it.

Modification to any and all strut tower bracing is illegal for stock class.

It's actually quite reasonable compared to most strut tower bars I've ever seen.


I've thought of a logical explanation for why Subaru would NOT have included this bar if it "really" would have helped fight deflection. Look at the picture again... the bar is covering up their D4-S advertisement :P

Could someone please answer this for me? I don't want to make a stupid pointless thread.

Improvement in "feel" isn't proven unless you can reliably detect when the bar is in place and when it is not in place in blind testing. Highly doubtful!

The bowed shape over the intake makes it more of a spring than a rigid brace, particularly given the way the ends are squashed in a straight line across the diameter of the bar = hinge points. Look at the way the ends of the factory bars are squashed, giving some bending stiffness, and in addition there's very little eccentricity between the mounting plane and neutral axis of the factory tubes, and they're *straight* (way way WAY stiffer).