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Chimera 05-06-2016 03:54 PM

This amused me, Scion Badge
 
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Not sure if this has been pointed out elsewhere, I have never seen it before.
Repainting the front badge from my 2013 FRS, even the SCION badge has a SUBARU Easter Egg!

BWilky 05-06-2016 03:58 PM

not surprised, the car is built by Fuji Heavy Industries.

KR-S 05-06-2016 04:00 PM

I think it's common knowledge already.

Also, check your Scion wheel caps.

Leonardo 05-06-2016 04:01 PM

Subaru hid easter eggs everywhere!


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...98af457b99.jpg

MisterSheep 05-06-2016 04:06 PM

yeah.. Subaru thought it was necessary to stamp Subaru everywhere.

saj 05-06-2016 05:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcXV...el=Car@niftyTV

Someone posted this in another thread about something else, but you can see FR-S sharing the floor at the Subaru plant.

Teseo 05-06-2016 05:38 PM

Subaru. Subaru everywhere

Stratoside 05-06-2016 06:53 PM

this has been known since the release when people were re-badging

Tcoat 05-06-2016 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWilky (Post 2645012)
not surprised, the car is built by Fuji Heavy Industries.

It is built by many companies but assembled by Subaru.

mav1178 05-06-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2645027)
yeah.. Subaru thought it was necessary to stamp Subaru everywhere.

Actually, this is more representative of items that are not made by Subaru.

At the end of the day, the OE supplier is supplying parts to Subaru, not Scion/Toyota.

-alex

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-06-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saj (Post 2645111)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcXV...el=Car@niftyTV

Someone posted this in another thread about something else, but you can see FR-S sharing the floor at the Subaru plant.

It's already well known that all three of the cars are built in a Subaru plant

strat61caster 05-06-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2645293)
It's already well known the car is built in a Subaru plant

Fixed that for you.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-06-2016 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2645306)
Fixed that for you.

I was under the assumption that the person that quoted me thought that each model was in a different place lol

Tcoat 05-06-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645280)
Actually, this is more representative of items that are not made by Subaru.

At the end of the day, the OE supplier is supplying parts to Subaru, not Scion/Toyota.

-alex

Subaru had to spec that label on the parts though. Those little words on the back cost sombody something. Nothing from the suppliers is free and they don't add anything that is not on the spec sheet.

mav1178 05-06-2016 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2645387)
Subaru had to spec that label on the parts though. Those little words on the back cost sombody something. Nothing from the suppliers is free and they don't add anything that is not on the spec sheet.

Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

strat61caster 05-06-2016 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645392)
Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

Would it matter? 1,000 in this box, 3,000 in that box, who cares if it's going to a factory in Japan or Thailand or Mexico?

mav1178 05-06-2016 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2645396)
Would it matter? 1,000 in this box, 3,000 in that box, who cares if it's going to a factory in Japan or Thailand or Mexico?

it would, if it was made specifically for the curvature of a car.

Given Toyota's Just-In-Time manufacturing philosophy, every piece counts.

-alex

F R YESS 05-06-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645392)
Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

Everything makes sense now lol

I've always wondered why damned near every single piece of my car I examine/remove/ replace has a "Subaru." I always just assumed Subaru wasn't 100% glad to be building the car in the first place so this was their passive way at getting even :lol:

So, if I were to examine my brother-in-laws GTO, would it have Holden stamps everywhere?? Now, I'm curious :23:

strat61caster 05-06-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645399)
it would, if it was made specifically for the curvature of a car.

Given Toyota's Just-In-Time manufacturing philosophy, every piece counts.

-alex

Interesting, I figured that was another driver for the different bumpers and the awkward flat spot that's not noticeable with the badge on but prominent with it off. Figured it'd be more in-line with Toyota's lean manufacturing philosophy to not have various options based on a arbitrary curve.

The more you know.

:cheers:

Tcoat 05-06-2016 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645392)
Oh I know, hence my comment.

I'm fairly certain this is sourced from the same supplier as non-FRS Scion vehicles, but they had to stamp it to differentiate where the part is ultimately going to. Otherwise, to the average worker it may easily get mixed up as going to Toyota when it should be going to Subaru for assembly.

-alex

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2645396)
Would it matter? 1,000 in this box, 3,000 in that box, who cares if it's going to a factory in Japan or Thailand or Mexico?

The parts business is often weird and convoluted. The front badge may come from one supplier and the rear another with the fender garnish coming from yet a 3rd. The average worker would have nothing to do with the shipping logistics and those that handle it would not be looking to see what is stamped on the back of the parts in the package. A simple part number would be all that is required. No idea why they felt the need to have Subaru spelt out on half the parts.

mav1178 05-06-2016 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2645405)
The parts business is often weird and convoluted. The front badge may come from one supplier and the rear another with the fender garnish coming from yet a 3rd. The average worker would have nothing to do with the shipping logistics and those that handle it would not be looking to see what is stamped on the back of the parts in the package. A simple part number would be all that is required. No idea why they felt the need to have Subaru spelt out on half the parts.

I've been to factories in Asia, both high quality OE suppliers as well as the cheapest of the cheap, and I can tell you that more often than not, badges are just made based on a mold in a bin and no one even bothers to label it with a part number.

At the basic OE level, they just provide an internal part number... not even matched up to the OE part in question.

A lot of times the mold just has one type of stamping vs. another, and whatever that's easiest for the production worker to figure out what part number is correct is how they do it.

In some cases such as this Scion badging for a car being produced by Subaru, the easiest is to just have Subaru stamped on the back since its the only Subaru that will use a Scion badge, and it takes the guesswork out of the manufacturing process when they switch molds.

And it's not really stamped, but you get the idea.

-alex

funwheeldrive 05-06-2016 10:43 PM

Does this mean my car is technically a BRZ?

strat61caster 05-06-2016 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645406)
In some cases such as this Scion badging for a car being produced by Subaru, the easiest is to just have Subaru stamped on the back since its the only Subaru that will use a Scion badge, and it takes the guesswork out of the manufacturing process when they switch molds.

And it's not really stamped, but you get the idea.

-alex

If I know nothing else about mass manufacturing, those molds are fucking expensive, but I guess a ~60k+ run justifies the cost. Appreciate the insight.

:cheers:

stevesnj 05-06-2016 11:15 PM

Wow it's stamped Subaru, now I know this my life is complete!! Bad mood, deal with it!!! :P

Tcoat 05-06-2016 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645406)
I've been to factories in Asia, both high quality OE suppliers as well as the cheapest of the cheap, and I can tell you that more often than not, badges are just made based on a mold in a bin and no one even bothers to label it with a part number.

At the basic OE level, they just provide an internal part number... not even matched up to the OE part in question.

A lot of times the mold just has one type of stamping vs. another, and whatever that's easiest for the production worker to figure out what part number is correct is how they do it.

In some cases such as this Scion badging for a car being produced by Subaru, the easiest is to just have Subaru stamped on the back since its the only Subaru that will use a Scion badge, and it takes the guesswork out of the manufacturing process when they switch molds.

And it's not really stamped, but you get the idea.

-alex

LOL. I have made car parts for 30 years and think we are actually in total agreement here and are just saying the same thing in different manners.

NWFRS 05-06-2016 11:56 PM

This is like when one of my coworkers bought a Harley Sportster to turn into a board tracker/rat bike. We started tearing s#it off it..."made in China"...everywhere.

Oh wait. It's not like that at all. :D

dnieves 05-06-2016 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2645280)
Actually, this is more representative of items that are not made by Subaru.

At the end of the day, the OE supplier is supplying parts to Subaru, not Scion/Toyota.

-alex



Does that mean Scion badges on tCs say Toyota and Scion badges on iAs say Mazda?

krayzie 05-07-2016 12:00 AM

Anyone debadged a Toyota 86 yet to see if the Toyota badge has Subaru stamped on the back as well? lol!

You know it makes sense since different Scion models might have different sized Scion badging.

darthpnoy1984 05-07-2016 12:28 AM

Designed by Toyota, assembled by Subaru.

p1l0t 05-07-2016 09:50 PM

The stamping goes to the manufacturer always. My window switches in my WRX said Nissan on them.

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