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NOHOME 05-02-2016 02:35 PM

Fram Air Filter...Is it me or what?
 
Pretty easy task to change an air filter. Tried to toss in a new Fram air filter and 45 minutes later had to give up and put the old one back in.

There a trick to this? Dont buy Fram products?

Tcoat 05-02-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2640414)
Pretty easy task to change an air filter. Tried to toss in a new Fram air filter and 45 minutes later had to give up and put the old one back in.

There a trick to this? Dont buy Fram products?

What didn't work about it? Never tried Fram but my TRD one is about a 3 minute operation to pull and replace (after cleaning not new one)

LOLS2K 05-02-2016 02:38 PM

I'm not sure what the FRAM filter looks like, however the APEXi filter that I dropped in the airbox didn't just fall in as I expected it would. I did have to wrestle it a bit. It's just a tight fit, and it takes some patience. Take a break and take another crack at it.

Atticus808 05-02-2016 02:39 PM

i unbolted 3 bolts and it made the job a lot easier

here's the link http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34343

extrashaky 05-02-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2640414)
Dont buy Fram products?

BINGO!

Fram products are cheap garbage with bad quality control. I wouldn't run anything they make in any of my vehicles. In fact, the warranty on the crate stroker in my Jeep specifically states that warranty work will be denied if I run a Fram oil filter because they are known to collapse and starve the engine of oil.

They make cheap crap for people who don't know any better and are just looking for the lowest price. Stick with a quality brand instead.

humfrz 05-02-2016 02:52 PM

Maybe you are trying to put it in upside down and/or backwards....... ??

Are you sure it's the right one .. ?? (CA9482) .. ??


humfrz

mpross 05-02-2016 02:57 PM

My k&n was kind of similar. It didn't take 45 minutes, but it did take a few times standing back and looking at it to figure out why I had to wrestle it in there... But +1 on the don't buy fram thing.

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NOHOME 05-02-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2640432)
Maybe you are trying to put it in upside down and/or backwards....... ??


humfrz


It is kind of hard to screw up because there is a unique corner to the filter.

Sure looks different than the factory part.



http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znet...A9482/image/3/

Think I will just pick up a filter at Toyota. The 30 bucks of so that Canadian Tire charged me is not worth how aggravated I will be if I waste another half hour and don't get the thing in. Don't buy Fram. I knew that for oil filters.

Tcoat 05-02-2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2640451)
It is kind of hard to screw up because there is a unique corner to the filter.

Sure looks different than the factory part.

Think I will just pick up a filter at Toyota. The 30 bucks of so that Canadian Tire charged me is not worth how aggravated I will be if I waste another half hour and don't get the thing in. Don't buy Fram. I knew that for oil filters.

Spend the extra and get the TRD one (Toyotatown does not stock them though) you will not regret it.

Cole 05-02-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2640459)
Spend the extra and get the TRD one (Toyotatown does not stock them though) you will not regret it.

Basically any aftermarket one. Most are nearly identical. Pick the company/colours you want and go from there. I got an HKS cause I'm too cheap to buy any of their other stuff, plus it's lime green.

Tcoat 05-02-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2640467)
Basically any aftermarket one. Most are nearly identical. Pick the company/colours you want and go from there. I got an HKS cause I'm too cheap to buy any of their other stuff, plus it's lime green.

Or that ^ yes!

Riftur 05-02-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mpross (Post 2640441)
My k&n was kind of similar. It didn't take 45 minutes, but it did take a few times standing back and looking at it to figure out why I had to wrestle it in there... But +1 on the don't buy fram thing.

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My K&N took less than 5 mins to put in.

Riftur 05-02-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2640467)
Basically any aftermarket one. Most are nearly identical. Pick the company/colours you want and go from there. I got an HKS cause I'm too cheap to buy any of their other stuff, plus it's lime green.

Didn't I read something about HKS air filters disintegrating? I am not sure if it was a certain one or what.

Cole 05-02-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2640563)
Didn't I read something about HKS air filters disintegrating? I am not sure if it was a certain one or what.

I don't think so

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-02-2016 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 2640414)
Pretty easy task to change an air filter. Tried to toss in a new Fram air filter and 45 minutes later had to give up and put the old one back in.

There a trick to this? Dont buy Fram products?


Are you sure you're doing it correctly?:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7975



I'm lucky the TRD intake is much bigger but somehow less cumbersome to mess with

mpross 05-02-2016 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2640558)
My K&N took less than 5 mins to put in.

Hmmm... I dunno. It didn't drop in as cleanly as the factory one. The clips didn't want to buckle as easily. Seems to be working though

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strat61caster 05-02-2016 04:56 PM

Boxes confuse me sometimes, so it took me 15 minutes to get my K&N in, coming up on being due for a cleaning.

Interesting to note that the TRD is also oiled, so much for that 'oiled filters are crap and will screw up your sensors that's why OE is dry' theory...

Tcoat 05-02-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2640595)
Boxes confuse me sometimes, so it took me 15 minutes to get my K&N in, coming up on being due for a cleaning.

Interesting to note that the TRD is also oiled, so much for that 'oiled filters are crap and will screw up your sensors that's why OE is dry' theory...

Properly oiled is really the key factor there!

Riftur 05-02-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2640569)

I don't think this is the exact article but this is an example. I don't think it was for the FR-S.

http://forum.fdmc.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1272

FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-02-2016 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2640595)
Boxes confuse me sometimes, so it took me 15 minutes to get my K&N in, coming up on being due for a cleaning.

Interesting to note that the TRD is also oiled, so much for that 'oiled filters are crap and will screw up your sensors that's why OE is dry' theory...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2640600)
Properly oiled is really the key factor there!


Usually all the issues I've ever seen with "oiled" filters are involved with over oiling

1GiantTurtle 05-02-2016 06:24 PM

the trd air filters are just rebadge K&n filters, almost everything is outsourced for TRD USA

Riftur 05-02-2016 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpross (Post 2640593)
Hmmm... I dunno. It didn't drop in as cleanly as the factory one. The clips didn't want to buckle as easily. Seems to be working though

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G928A using Tapatalk

Strange, mine slid in nice and snug, clips buckled on perfectly. I dont think it would go in the wrong way so it must be right. weird.

Tcoat 05-02-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2640782)
Strange, mine slid in nice and snug, clips buckled on perfectly. I dont think it would go in the wrong way so it must be right. weird.

Talking filters here not your last date!

humfrz 05-02-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2640595)
Boxes confuse me sometimes, so it took me 15 minutes to get my K&N in, ...

You're supposed to take it out of the box first, ....... before you put it in ....... :sigh:


humfrz

humfrz 05-02-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2640811)
Talking filters here not your last date!

What's with the "clips" ...... have I been missing something ....... :cry:


humfrz

Elkton86er 05-02-2016 08:08 PM

I had trouble with mine too, and after several attempts I found that the "trick" is to place the new filter on the bumper (fixed) side of the housing and then clip the box (moving) side around it. This was MUCH easier than what I was doing (which was to place the new filter in the box side and clip it with filter on to the other side).

To repeat - try placing the filter on the fixed frame and then clipping the box around it. Hope this helps.

Riftur 05-02-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2640811)
Talking filters here not your last date!

lol well both are true lol

8R6 05-02-2016 08:29 PM

i have an HKS drop in filter. fit perfectly and the whole thing took under 5 min. i spent more time unscrewing the bolts than swapping the actual filter.

Tcoat 05-02-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2640852)
What's with the "clips" ...... have I been missing something ....... :cry:


humfrz

https://totaldrama.net/wp-content/up.../sex-swing.jpg

humfrz 05-02-2016 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2640881)

Oh, sort of like one of those Chinese basket things ...... ??

I guess I fell behind when I gave up the Wesson oil, saran wrap, tarp and jumper cables ...... :sigh:



humfrz

gramicci101 05-02-2016 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2640459)
Toyotatown

Canada has weird theme parks.


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