HDPE tire
 

Hello all, I am going to be doing 3-4 HDPE/tracking events a year and am looking for a tire recommendation. I am looking in the 225/45/17 size on a 17x8 (CE28N) wheel. I see lots of autocross threads discussing RS3, RE71R, star specs, Rival S but will these be the best choice for a more road course oriented car? If it matters I will be tracking in AZ (spring, fall, winter) so cold weather isn't the norm. This will be my first time tracking the BRZ, most of my seat time has been in a V7 STI (my other car). Also already have swapped in ferodo DS2500 pads and motul RBF660 fluid and swapped to stainless lines while I was down there.

Thanks

Those tires you mention would all work great. I never hear of Rival S, so I don't know about that.

Pretty much it's really up to you and your wallet.

I personally used RS3 and Star Specs before, for both autox and track days, in 100 degree weather on my MR2 and they hold up well.

What is your goal?

If you aren't worried about winning at AutoX, I'd be tempted to have a separate set of wheels and R-comps for HPDE. If you have experience, like you mentioned, it gets old protecting street tires in long, hard sessions.

If you're looking to stick with a street tire I'd recommend taking a look at the AD08R or RS3. RE71R and Rival S are more focused on autocross and are not well suited to road course driving with extended sessions. If you're looking to go into an R Comp, the NT01 is a good option.

I'm super happy with my RE71R 225/45-17 on oz ultraleggera. Good thing about this tire is that it's suppose to provide better wet traction on the street than the other tires. The tires are very linear so noobs like me won't go greasing into walls.


However I'd eventually want to move over to dedicated track tires.

Currently I'm on stock power and stock suspension.

I did plenty of wet sessions in my Miata on R888s.

Those sessions aren't about times, they are about learning to feel the grip level and adjust to it. Even my instructor asked a few times how I saved a few hiccups.

I told him all my previous experience was on 2 wheels. :)

I'm not at the point yet of having a separate track setup just yet. I'm mostly looking for a good tire that I can commute on (very short commute) plus splitting time with my STI, as well as track on. So they not going to get tons of miles piled onto them. Eventually I will pick up another set of wheels and have a dedicated track wheel setup.

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Yea I have the same question too. I still see the same tires that were out 3 years ago.

I ordered AD08R but they didn't tell its gonna take like 3 weeks to come in so I'm thinking to cancel and get something else. But I'm not sure.

I was very happy with RE11A but they don't make them anymore.

I know the new hotness is RE71r but all my research shows it as a time attack type tire and may not stand up well to back to back hot laps? I am waffling over getting them.

What other options are there? RS3, starspec, ecsta xs, ad08r? I previously went with RE11A because I concluded they would be the best in this group. I wasn't disappointed.

Should maybe step up a bit, R888 or NT01?

My goal is a tire with decent grip that will let me lap continuously which at my level I achieved with RE11A and why I stopped using the OEM tires. I don't even datalog or lap times. I just did my first event in group 3 and still have a lot to learn about driving and being on track.

I wouldn't get R888s unless you need specific sizes. NT01's come in 235s which would do well. Otherwise AD08r's are my choice. Consistent and have excellent sidewalls which make for tons of feedback through the tyres. Great for learning control.

225/45/17

I've used Nitto NT05 and BFG Rivals. They're both on the less sticky (i.e., longer lasting) side of the 200TW street tire category, but have been very durable for track use. I got about 7-8 track days out of the NT05's, still going on the Rivals. No issues with chunking or premature wear, but fast enough to keep pace in intermediate and up HPDE groups. I've been happy with the Rivals in particular, but both have been great for track use.

Next up, I've got a set of Hankook RS3's waiting to go on. From what I've heard, they should be on the stickier side, but not nearly as grippy as the RE71R and Rival S "200TW but not really wink wink" tires.

AD08 is perfect for your needs. I love these tires on the track and they are great on the road; good in rain and fairly quiet on the road. Highly recommended

I agree. RE11As were such a great tire. They were perfectly balanced in all phases - daily dry, daily wet, autox, track days, and mountain drives. I will miss these tires.

Ultimately, I will probably replace them with something like the AD08Rs when time comes depending on my focus. AD08Rs aren't cheap though!

Bridgestone has $70 back on a set, so that makes the RE71 very attractive from a price point.

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Plus a $100 back by mail.

http://m.fcacmobile.com/offers/BATO_...cac_topbanner/

Wonder if I should get 4 rear tires #heavyfoot.


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I got 2 track days out of my RE-71R before they were at the wear bars and heat cycled out. I replaced it with Nitto NT01 since I'm more into HPDE than Auto X but I've got them on a different set of wheels than what I daily on.

I use RS3 for the track, and have had a set last 8 events, it is a cheap, grippy and DD usable tire, and I would continue using them, but once my car is back I'm gonna be upgrading to Hankook TD and see how it goes.

Telling someone what type of tire to use in an HPDE scenario is like telling them what type of woman/man they should be attracted to.

Go out and try different ones, that's most of the fun right there!

Aren't you supposed to get to know a tire brand and then commit to spending the rest of your life with that one choice :iono:

Maybe, I've met many racers who would marry a set of Hoosiers if it was legal.

Nothing wrong with suggesting a first date if you know a hot choice...

"Don't buy those ones, they'll get fat after you mount them on your wheels and then they'll take half your car when they fall off."

:)

Same thing with brake pads... although I do love my ST43s

So I ordered Direzza star spec 2 in 215/45/17 for my CE28N 17x8. I had original star specs on my V7 STI and they were very good.

Bumping this to get opinions on HPDE tires for the intermediate group. I'm on stock suspension. Love the AD08R (used on my Supra for some track days) and want to get another set in 215/45/17 but fear it might overpower the stock suspension with its grip.

Thoughts? I may throw on some RCE yellows before the season starts but don't plan on changing the shocks.

TireRack still has a killer deal on the last sets of Hankook R-S3s. Like, fire sale pricing. I tried them out for the first time last weekend in 245/40/17 and they were solid. Not as precise-feeling as my Z2SS, and they didn't like slip angle as much as my VR-1s, but for the price, I can definitely recommend.

Edit: and a guy I know sets blazing-fast lap times on stock suspension with 215 Z2SS. So I can recommend those as well.

Maxxis VR-1 or RC-1?
http://www.maxxis.com/tires/autolt/competition

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103624
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80118

+1 on stock size ZIISS w/ stock suspension, had a blast at the track with them and they performed excellently, even managed to get 20k street miles out of them, but they were well past the wear bars. Put camber plates on the front and I think that's the most balanced I've ever had the car.

I was going to try RS3 next, but decided to focus on autox so MPSS are my current street tire that may see track time. Don't know how they compare to AD08's, but I'd be surprised if any 200TW street tire in OE size was 'too much' for the OE suspension.

And it's always nice to not have to swap tires before/after a hard day of driving.

How quiet on the hiway are the VR-1?

I don't know; I'm just going off of others' reviews. @kch, @ATL BRZ, or @CSG Mike could speak from personal experience.

VR1 are not available in a stock like size, 205/55/16 or 255/40/17 are the closest. You'd likely have to buy a wheel to run them if you don't already have one.

I'm already running 255/40/17 RS-3, but they are wearing out and am thinking of a replacement.

Whoops, thought you were the other guy who was asking about OE sized AD08R's w/ stock suspension.

:cheers:

Try out the new RS4's and let us know if they are any good.

Dunno; I never used them on the street.

The VR1 is quieter than the average for 200TW tires.

You can easily carry a conversation; they don't roar like the 71R or Rival S.

They're SLIGHTLY louder than a RE11, and quieter than a Z2SS/Z2.

If you can only have one set of tires, Would you consider the VR1 to be a good all around tire, street, and track? Dry and wet?

Or do you have a other prefference?

It depends on how much rain you deal with.

My personal choice is Maxxis RC1, but I have an alternate car I can drive when it's raining...

Mike, how does the VR-1 compare to the RS-3 v2 in the rain?

Talking Maxxis RC-1, what wheel are people running for the 225? I see that Maxxis recommends a 7.5". Anyone running a 9"?