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jackblack21 04-15-2016 06:31 PM

Forced Induction or upgrade car?
 
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

Tcoat 04-15-2016 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

I would do one or the other yes.

Tectoniic 04-15-2016 06:42 PM

for @go_a_way1 :popcorn:
OP, do some searching. It is not that we don't want to help but this has been discussed a million times and ultimately it comes down to your decision.

It is alot easier to find info on the site by googling: FT86 followed by what you're looking for

Sarlacc 04-15-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2623574)
I would do one or the other yes.

I wouldn't do either. Or both.

go_a_way1 04-15-2016 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tectoniic (Post 2623585)
for @go_a_way1 :popcorn:
OP, do some searching. It is not that we don't want to help but this has been discussed a million times and ultimately it comes down to your decision.

It is alot easier to find info on the site by googling: FT86 followed by what you're looking for

Thanks!! You are going to need to stay on top of shit like this since I will be going :cheers:

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-15-2016 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?


In what world does going FI on this car cost 10 grand? Are you even searching or researching properly?

JRSC+tune+oil cooler puts you at $5500. Only when you start adding stuff in like brakes, tires, air oil seperator, headers does it even get close to $10000

mav1178 04-15-2016 06:53 PM

Yes

fz6r 04-15-2016 07:07 PM

I went turbo and spend 6k. Unless you're going the ptuning route, idk why you would pay 10k

DAEMANO 04-15-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

1. If you're worried about reliability an upgraded used car is really not the way to go.

2. If you want a "big power in a straight line" sorta GT, get another car.

3. If you want a little more power in your nimble but noisy sports car, keep your 86 and add a UEL+e85 or F.I. for even more.

Nickel 04-15-2016 07:19 PM

If I was willing to spend $40K instead of $20K, my next option was a fully loaded premium all black '16 Mustang GT with the Recaro seats. If I only needed one car and didn't care about motorcycles too, it's probably the car I'd have for the power and reliability package.

VIP BRZ 04-15-2016 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickel (Post 2623643)
'16 Mustang GT

:clap:

weederr33 04-15-2016 07:29 PM

Do an engine swap.

[YOYO] 04-15-2016 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2623600)
In what world does going FI on this car cost 10 grand? Are you even searching or researching properly?

JRSC+tune+oil cooler puts you at $5500. Only when you start adding stuff in like brakes, tires, air oil seperator, headers does it even get close to $10000

In Canada (OP is from Alberta) :lol:

Well maybe not $10k just for an FI kit, but after all the monetary conversion and fun fun taxes, it does get up there. When it comes to automotive modding (amongst other things) we are unfortunately not as privileged you boys down in the the U-S and A.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/56540775.jpg

FR-Sky 04-15-2016 07:50 PM

I said this million times.
I focus on suspension instead of FI. If i want more HP,,i wouldnt even buy this car.

Cole 04-15-2016 07:54 PM

Just do FI on your car

Then when it blows up, come on here crying about it, and talk about how shitty the FA20 is

Then buy Mustang GT, continue to post here about how much better the Mustang is.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-15-2016 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2623680)
Just do FI on your car

Then when it blows up, come on here crying about it, and talk about how shitty the FA20 is

Then buy Mustang GT, continue to post here about how much better the Mustang is.


The first part usually happens but it's almost always someone that went turbo , the second part however honestly hasn't in fact the person that went for the GT hated it.

Tcoat 04-15-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2623684)
The first part usually happens but it's almost always someone that went turbo , the second part however honestly hasn't in fact the person that went for the GT hated it.

The one that came back said he hated it. Mind you I am still pretty sure he never had either so the point is sort of moot.

soulreapersteve 04-15-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2623680)
Just do FI on your car

Then when it blows up, come on here crying about it, and talk about how shitty the FA20 is

Then buy Mustang GT, continue to post here about how much better the Mustang is.

You forgot 1 step, OP has to crash into people after buying the Mustang. It's like an initiation step.

(ok, 1st and last Mustang joke I'll make from here on out. Mustang week already passed)

CatScan 04-15-2016 08:58 PM

Why did you buy this car?

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-15-2016 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2623702)
The one that came back said he hated it. Mind you I am still pretty sure he never had either so the point is sort of moot.

Really? How do you know?

Tcoat 04-15-2016 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2623702)
The one that came back said he hated it. Mind you I am still pretty sure he never had either so the point is sort of moot.

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2623727)
Really? How do you know?

Don't claim to "know" but none of the stories ever lined up, facts were changed when challenged and there was never one shred of hard evidence provided for proof either car ever existed. Was likely just a troll all alone. All this of course if we are talking the same guy (which I believe we are)

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-15-2016 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2623730)
Don't claim to "know" but none of the stories ever lined up, facts were changed when challenged and there was never one shred of hard evidence provided for proof either car ever existed. Was likely just a troll all alone. All this of course if we are talking the same guy (which I believe we are)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67100


That's the one I'm talking about

Tcoat 04-15-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2623734)

Nah not him. SlowButFun. I think all trace of his existence was wiped out. Although if you dig deep enough you may find where people quoted him. He was the guy that hated on the FRS claimed to have bought a Mustang and then hated on that and wanted to get a FRS and then hated on the FRS again. Was freakin' everywhere here about a year or so ago.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-15-2016 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2623741)
Nah not him. SlowButFun. I think all trace of his existence was wiped out. Although if you dig deep enough you may find where people quoted him. He was the guy that hated on the FRS claimed to have bought a Mustang and then hated on that and wanted to get a FRS and then hated on the FRS again. Was freakin' everywhere here about a year or so ago.

That's pretty ridiculous and based on that description he must be a troll. But I was referring to the other guy I linked anyway :lol:

shiumai 04-15-2016 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2623600)
In what world does going FI on this car cost 10 grand?

In the real world where stuff goes wrong and something blows up or breaks and needs to be fixed or replaced. :)

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-15-2016 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shiumai (Post 2623749)
In the real world where stuff goes wrong and something blows up or breaks and needs to be fixed or replaced. :)

Even well if you run under 10 psi like the jrsc that shouldn't be an issue. If some something does blow up with a budget of 10k including the supercharger and other stuff theres not much left for repairs.....

KR-S 04-16-2016 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
Forced Induction or upgrade car?

Isn't forced induction part of upgrading the car?

Back to the topic at hand: I think you should tri-turbo and centrifugal supercharge your car. I think the FA20 can handle it.

Packofcrows 04-16-2016 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

WRX, cheap Camaro, cheap BMW or Mustang. $15k or less.

humfrz 04-16-2016 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

I light of your previous statement, in another thread, "I would still hire someone to install my header as I am mechanically useless"....... I would suggest you just go out and buy another car with more HP.


humfrz

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-16-2016 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2623881)
I light of your previous statement, in another thread, "I would still hire someone to install my header as I am mechanically useless"....... I would suggest you just go out and buy another car with more HP.


humfrz

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?


Oh wow @humfrz is right I saw that other thread, it looks like you aren't comfortable modifying the car yourself which is understandable but is also another reason why you shouldn't "upgrade" the car. Especially when you don't have things budgeted out of planned you gave a random ball park of 10 grand, nor do you know how much you'll buy the car for....

joe strummer 04-16-2016 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

Did you really expect to get some adult guidance? Guys like you are like blood in the ocean, and some of these posters are like sharks. OK, nurse sharks, or flaccid catsharks, or weasel sharks, or phallic catsharks, or small-fin gulper sharks, or small-eye pygmy sharks, or short-fin makos, I guess, but sharks nonetheless.

ZionsWrath 04-16-2016 06:27 AM

If it is for street I'd do FI for the "sleeper" aspect.

For track I'd probably just go for a vette or something. Unless it is much cheaper to add the FI

weederr33 04-16-2016 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackblack21 (Post 2623567)
So going FI will cost me about 10 grand but I worry about reliability. I am flirting with using that money and trade in value to go to something with more HP instead.

If it were you would you go FI on your 86 or upgrade to a used care with more omph?

So after everyone's advice, have you come to a conclusion?

Tcoat 04-16-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joe strummer (Post 2623983)
Did you really expect to get some adult guidance? Guys like you are like blood in the ocean, and some of these posters are like sharks. OK, nurse sharks, or flaccid catsharks, or weasel sharks, or phallic catsharks, or small-fin gulper sharks, or small-eye pygmy sharks, or short-fin makos, I guess, but sharks nonetheless.

And statements such as this are in no way different than the replies given to the question.


A reasonable question will receive "adult" guidance. We prove that time and time again. There is nothing reasonable about the original question here. Whether he realizes it or not OP is just looking for support for a decision he has probably already made.


On a related note should I have McDondalds or Tim Hortons for breakfast?

Mr.Impreza 04-16-2016 11:18 AM

Why are people not happy with the power in this car? I've been driving my 2014 Accord sport with 189Hp and a CVT transmission for a few weeks and when i took my 86 out for a drive recently I felt like i was in a rocket ship lol.

I think if you think this car is slow you already made the mistake of buying it.

The troubles of a aftermarket turbo car will never end no matter who you choose to set the car up. You could even hire Amuse to set up this car and you will still have some issues down the road.

Also, even if your a track person, most track guys will tell you, all you need is a good suspension setup and sticky tires and this car will eat many cars on the track for breakfast if your a decent driver.

RichardsFRS 04-16-2016 11:43 AM

10k? I'd get a dif car. Blowing this one up will cost ya 10k more

MikeyBatz 04-16-2016 11:47 AM

I went through the same though too. I settled on keeping the car stock because if i ever decide to trade in or sell its going to be simpler process.

Braces 04-16-2016 12:06 PM

Reasons to go FI:

1. This is your second car to play with. Not your primary means of transportation.
2. You're mechanically inclined and have the time to deal with the inevitable issues that will arise.
3. You have the money to play.
4. You want to mod your car regardless of what it was intended to do because ... You can and it will be a learning experience ... Good or bad.

Or ........

Get another car with more HP if you answered no to any of the questions listed above.


Good luck and keep us posted.

roddy 04-16-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2624077)
...On a related note should I have McDondalds or Tim Hortons for breakfast?


Tim Horton's...then upgrade the coffee to McDonalds.

Guff 04-16-2016 02:06 PM

Dude, get a Cayman S. If you like raw sports car feel and just want more grunt (and more of everything else), then it's perfect for you. You can get them for high 20s, low 30s with some miles on it. IMS Failure is always an issue with those cars, but other then that they're fairly reliable.


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