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WolF_RS 04-12-2016 01:55 AM

What lugs should I use?
 
Hey guys, I just got a set of Avid 1 AV-20s and I was wondering if any of you guys have any suggestions for lugs that would fit my car and wheel? Any and all hell would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Drakiv 04-12-2016 02:14 AM

If you meant lug nuts, I just got a set of Project Kics R40 Lug Nuts with locks. The Volks I heard are nice, but all in all they are pricey. I got the Kics because of the floating washer so they wont gouge the wheels. There are other good ones like Muteki, NRG, Mishimoto, hell even Gorilla. It just comes down to how much you want to spend on a set of lug nuts. They are all pretty good, I suggest getting a set with a lock.

tyler_win_photo 04-12-2016 03:47 AM

Just remember the thread pitch is 12 x 1.25

Ashikabi 04-12-2016 10:15 AM

What they said. I have kics R40. I've seen the Mutekis and the finish on them looks really good.

jasonojordan 04-12-2016 10:47 AM

I have the muteki sr48 black wheel locks and MUTEKI SR48 OPEN END LUG NUTS

LOLS2K 04-12-2016 11:05 AM

Something steel and comes with a lock.

WolF_RS 04-12-2016 11:30 AM

Thanks guys! Got some Muteki SR48 Black lugs and SR48 Locks!

ARTBRZ 04-12-2016 11:32 AM

Based on reviews and recommendation from discount tire, I would not recommend any aluminum lug nuts because they tend to break. I have gorilla lug nuts.

Ashikabi 04-12-2016 11:33 AM

For anyone else seeing this thread I can confirm aluminum lugs are shit, they will seize and then break

mpross 04-12-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2618822)
What they said. I have kics R40. I've seen the Mutekis and the finish on them looks really good.

They look good briefly lol. The finish on mine started chipping away pretty quickly

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Ashikabi 04-12-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mpross (Post 2619249)
They look good briefly lol. The finish on mine started chipping away pretty quickly

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The finish on my Kics isn't prefect anymore either so probably not something you can get around. Maybe on titanium lugs?

go_a_way1 04-12-2016 03:04 PM

Amuse Titanium Lug Nuts

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...ts_900x592.jpg



http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...tegory_Code=L1

go_a_way1 04-12-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2619254)
The finish on my Kics isn't prefect anymore either so probably not something you can get around. Maybe on titanium lugs?

LOL I just posted titanium nuts before I read your comment

mpross 04-12-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2619254)
The finish on my Kics isn't prefect anymore either so probably not something you can get around. Maybe on titanium lugs?

Maybe, I've only ever had these on mine. Mine are anodized red also, so it flakes of every time you remove them. Non anodized are probably a little more durable.

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NLSP 04-12-2016 03:08 PM

McGard SplineDrive are very durable. Part number 65554 for chrome or 65554BK for black. Comes with locks and valve stems.

Ashikabi 04-12-2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2619263)
LOL I just posted titanium nuts before I read your comment

Does the finish on them flake off?

go_a_way1 04-12-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2619280)
Does the finish on them flake off?

no there is no finish they are heated titanium. However go look at the price :lol:

Ashikabi 04-12-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2619291)
no there is no finish they are heated titanium. However go look at the price :lol:

Yeah that's why I don't have them...

Ammunition 04-12-2016 03:56 PM

I am very happy with my McGard Spline drive lug nuts and wheel lock set. I love the design, and they look inconspicuous with my wheel-set.

These also have an independently-rotating seat like many of the Project Kics lug nuts, and therefore will greatly reduce the chance of marring up the seat where the wheel comes in contact with the lug nut.

I have seen images of these lug nuts that are years old and have taken a lot of abuse, and the finish holds up remarkably well, even when not well cared for. It took me almost all four months that I was waiting for my wheels to be manufactured to find a set of lug nuts I was happy with - I was very close to dropping the money on a set of Project Kics or Rays, but I really didn't care for their design and look, even though I was willing to pay the price for them.

I saved about $100 - 150, and couldn't be happier with how these turned out - GL finding and choosing something that will work for you.

xFury 04-20-2016 10:31 PM

Hey everyone. Found the wheels I wanted, now need to find a product to make sure its stays on the car.

Read that Lug nuts should be used, but read the thread and see that some says you need another set of lock for it also, is that correct? Gonna use it on a Vordoven Forme 9 (I know, I know).

So it would be 4 lugs 1 lock? or how does it work?

Thanks!

Ashikabi 04-20-2016 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xFury (Post 2628841)
Hey everyone. Found the wheels I wanted, now need to find a product to make sure its stays on the car.

Read that Lug nuts should be used, but read the thread and see that some says you need another set of lock for it also, is that correct? Gonna use it on a Vordoven Forme 9 (I know, I know).

So it would be 4 lugs 1 lock? or how does it work?

Thanks!

You don't "need" locks but it's a good idea. Make sure the lugs are skinny enough to fit in your lug wells and are the right thread. DO NOT use stock lugs on aftermarket wheels or aftermarket lugs on stock wheels

Ammunition 04-21-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xFury (Post 2628841)
Hey everyone. Found the wheels I wanted, now need to find a product to make sure its stays on the car.

Read that Lug nuts should be used, but read the thread and see that some says you need another set of lock for it also, is that correct? Gonna use it on a Vordoven Forme 9 (I know, I know).

So it would be 4 lugs 1 lock? or how does it work?

Thanks!

Yes, if you want to utilize wheel locks then you'll want 16 lug nuts and 4 wheel locks - some companies sell these as a kit, so you get everything you need. You'll typically have a key specific to to lug nuts for installation and removal, and another unique key for the locks - so that's two keys that you'll want to keep in your glove compartment.

My McGard Spline Drive lug nuts came as a kit with the locks included, so again they get my recommendation as I've been extremely happy with them.

The thread size you'll need is m12 x 1.25 - I would also hold onto at least five of your OEM lug nuts and keep those in the car at all times as well (in the event that you need to utilize the spare tire.)

xFury 04-21-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2628877)
You don't "need" locks but it's a good idea. Make sure the lugs are skinny enough to fit in your lug wells and are the right thread. DO NOT use stock lugs on aftermarket wheels or aftermarket lugs on stock wheels

Ah okay, I'll get one anyways. Better safe than sorry lol.

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Originally Posted by Ammunition (Post 2629459)
Yes, if you want to utilize wheel locks then you'll want 16 lug nuts and 4 wheel locks - some companies sell these as a kit, so you get everything you need. You'll typically have a key specific to to lug nuts for installation and removal, and another unique key for the locks - so that's two keys that you'll want to keep in your glove compartment.

My McGard Spline Drive lug nuts came as a kit with the locks included, so again they get my recommendation as I've been extremely happy with them.

The thread size you'll need is m12 x 1.25 - I would also hold onto at least five of your OEM lug nuts and keep those in the car at all times as well (in the event that you need to utilize the spare tire.)

Awesome, thanks for the info! Just wanna make sure I get one that can prevent it theft as best as it can. Since they're not cheap and don't mind paying a bit for better security as long as price is reasonable.

Also if theres more recommendations, please let me know so I can take a look at it!

Thanks!

PandaSPUR 04-21-2016 03:33 PM

I have a set of used Rays Racing Formula lug nuts. Gives me the blue color that I want without the risk of it just flaking away. Really expensive though, I bought mine used at a good price, probably wouldn't have bought them otherwise.

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...0001/VRFNB.jpg

Ashikabi 04-21-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2629597)
I have a set of used Rays Racing Formula lug nuts. Gives me the blue color that I want without the risk of it just flaking away. Really expensive though, I bought mine used at a good price, probably wouldn't have bought them otherwise.

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...0001/VRFNB.jpg

Those look pretty classy. Do they have a lock?

PandaSPUR 04-21-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2629604)
Those look pretty classy. Do they have a lock?

Kinda, you use an allen key to take off that blue cap and then that reveals the splines on the inside for the included "key" to fit into.

Could probably just use a hammer and jam something in there to turn the lug nut, like with most wheel locks though.

And actually, I haven't put these on my car yet, but looking at them I'm starting to suspect the ones I have are fakes... sigh. time to do some research.

Ashikabi 04-21-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2629612)
Kinda, you use an allen key to take off that blue cap and then that reveals the splines on the inside for the included "key" to fit into.

Could probably just use a hammer and jam something in there to turn the lug nut, like with most wheel locks though.

And actually, I haven't put these on my car yet, but looking at them I'm starting to suspect the ones I have are fakes... sigh. time to do some research.

Ohhh I thought they used the Allen key to come off. That makes more sense. You could weigh them, that should tell you if they are a different material. I assume RAYS will be chromoly or titanium. Both will be significantly lighter than steel

PandaSPUR 04-21-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2629623)
Ohhh I thought they used the Allen key to come off. That makes more sense. You could weigh them, that should tell you if they are a different material. I assume RAYS will be chromoly or titanium. Both will be significantly lighter than steel

These weigh a freaking ton and there's a taper to the allen key slot on the head. Compared to the authentics which do not have that taper.

Well it hasnt been 180 days yet, so paypal dispute has been opened. I'm just glad I never put these on my car.

Ashikabi 04-21-2016 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2629644)
These weigh a freaking ton and there's a taper to the allen key slot on the head. Compared to the authentics which do not have that taper.

Well it hasnt been 180 days yet, so paypal dispute has been opened. I'm just glad I never put these on my car.

Hope it works out for you

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why? 04-21-2016 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARTBRZ (Post 2618887)
Based on reviews and recommendation from discount tire, I would not recommend any aluminum lug nuts because they tend to break. I have gorilla lug nuts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2618889)
For anyone else seeing this thread I can confirm aluminum lugs are shit, they will seize and then break

bla bla bla. Cheap anything sucks. Stop spreading flat out lies. I've had a set of Rays duraluminum lugs on my Yaris for 8 years with zero problems from abusive jackasses that use guns on them. You get what you pay for.

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2628877)
You don't "need" locks but it's a good idea. Make sure the lugs are skinny enough to fit in your lug wells and are the right thread. DO NOT use stock lugs on aftermarket wheels or aftermarket lugs on stock wheels

Except on Subaru's you actually could, since they are the same type of lug nut aftermarket wheels use.

Ashikabi 04-22-2016 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 2630116)
bla bla bla. Cheap anything sucks. Stop spreading flat out lies. I've had a set of Rays duraluminum lugs on my Yaris for 8 years with zero problems from abusive jackasses that use guns on them. You get what you pay for.



Except on Subaru's you actually could, since they are the same type of lug nut aftermarket wheels use.

Well last I checked GReddy was a reputable company and I never once used an impact on them. Guess what? They broke. Maybe my set was bad. I don't know. That was my experience and that's what I'm going to tell people.


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