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ft86cbx 03-10-2011 10:30 AM

FT-86 Future Said to may include hybrid
 
According to AutoExpress:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...yota_coup.html

I think its a case of crossed wires here personally. Maybe an MRS style hybrid in the future, but seriously doubt it for the 86.

iff2mastamatt 03-10-2011 03:20 PM

Well, autoblog says it's a rumor:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/10/r...hybrid-option/

xantonin 03-10-2011 03:38 PM

I wouldn't get a hybrid. Too expensive to replace the parts on it.

DrunkenMime 03-11-2011 12:46 PM

the original concept (FT-HS) was a 400hp hybrid....I wouldn't shoot down a hybrid rumor so fast....nor would I overlook the performance capabilities without seeing it in action....

Zaku 03-11-2011 12:47 PM

As long as it doesn't flop like a CRZ I think it's not that bad. Rumor r rumor

c0rbin 03-11-2011 01:26 PM

Do we really need a new thread for every new rumor a magazine makes up?

There is no chance that this car will be either a) hybrid or b) a Scion.

ft86cbx 03-11-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rbin (Post 29320)
Do we really need a new thread for every new rumor a magazine makes up?

There is no chance that this car will be either a) hybrid or b) a Scion.

Sure. I wont bother posting links to motor news sites that people may have missed. :sigh:

Isn't that what this forum is for, to communicate and discuss news about the 86?

And how do you know a hybrid is not being considered as a spin off? FACT Toyota plan to release 15 hybrid/electric cars by 2015. What's to say one won't be based on the 2.0 boxer???

Kage 03-11-2011 03:48 PM

I HOPE toyota releases this as a hybrid. And as many other versions as possible...The more money they can make from this car the more they are likely to make more sports cars in the future...PERIOD

Dark 03-11-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kage (Post 29337)
I HOPE toyota releases this as a hybrid. And as many other versions as possible...The more money they can make from this car the more they are likely to make more sports cars in the future...PERIOD

I only heard about making Lexus IS a hybrid.

blur 03-11-2011 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 29330)
Sure. I wont bother posting links to motor news sites that people may have missed. :sigh:

Isn't that what this forum is for, to communicate and discuss news about the 86?

news ≠ rumors

ft86cbx 03-11-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blur (Post 29342)
news ≠ rumors

This place would have been a dull place over the last year if we only talked about news which was fact!

Face it, it's still a concept at this stage and we hardly get anything official. If you don't like the thread move on. At least I don't keep banging on about scion etc in every thread like some do. :)

ichitaka05 03-11-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rbin (Post 29320)
Do we really need a new thread for every new rumor a magazine makes up?

There is no chance that this car will be either a) hybrid or b) a Scion.

You must be kidding right? Have you seen all the threads?

When you've been here posting since '09 then different story, but when you have been member here?

Again, you're stating you speculation. You don't have a proof. Yes, I do agree, I wish that this car won't come out hybrid or Scion... but that's just my opinion and not a fact.

iff2mastamatt 03-11-2011 07:21 PM

I wouldn't be shocked if there was a hybrid option, but wouldn't a battery pack add a decent amount of weight?

Matador 03-11-2011 08:13 PM

I think today is recycle day for stale rumors from last year.

xantonin 03-11-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kage (Post 29337)
I HOPE toyota releases this as a hybrid. And as many other versions as possible...The more money they can make from this car the more they are likely to make more sports cars in the future...PERIOD

This.

Mk4UmHa 03-11-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 29362)
This.

I wouldn't call a hybrid a sports car.

ft86cbx 03-12-2011 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk4UmHa (Post 29374)
I wouldn't call a hybrid a sports car.

What? Not even if Porsche put the 918 Spyder - a hybrid electric concept that previews a future Carrera GT in to production?

Look, id much rather not go down the hybrid route until absolutely necessary, but face facts, things are heading in this direction.

I cant personally see it happening for the 86, but in my opinion I could see Toyota doing a watered down version of something along these lines http://gazoo.com/racing/english/grmn...detail_shc.asp in the not to distant future.

Dark 03-12-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 29401)
What? Not even if Porsche put the 918 Spyder - a hybrid electric concept that previews a future Carrera GT in to production?

Look, id much rather not go down the hybrid route until absolutely necessary, but face facts, things are heading in this direction.

I cant personally see it happening for the 86, but in my opinion I could see Toyota doing a watered down version of something along these lines http://gazoo.com/racing/english/grmn...detail_shc.asp in the not to distant future.

I agree.
@Mk4UmHa
Hybrid is the future. Electric is another step ahead. Whether you like it or not, you have to accept that future sport cars will be powered by electricity. Look at Tesla, you will have some idea of the future sport car.

Riden86 03-12-2011 08:51 PM

Hybrid should help the car pass emission standard.

xantonin 03-12-2011 09:01 PM

Hybrid might be handy if they pair it with the normal performance FT-86, so that it just drives the car when not in "performance mode".

This would require that the car is still the same core car, much like the 2009 Camry Hybrid still uses the same engine as the normal Camry so it's still decently "quick" (for a Camry).

Unfortunately, I doubt this would ever be a reality for the simple fact that adding in a Hybrid motor and batteries would add a significant amount of weight to the car.

Midship Runabout 03-12-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark (Post 29442)
I agree.
@Mk4UmHa
Hybrid is the future. Electric is another step ahead. Whether you like it or not, you have to accept that future sport cars will be powered by electricity. Look at Tesla, you will have some idea of the future sport car.

I would have to disagree. I believe hybrids an EV's are the "it" thing for the next few years. But diesel is the real future of automobiles. But that's just my opinion.

Mr.Jay 03-12-2011 09:33 PM

I disagree completely about hybrid sports cars being the future since the only good ones name have 100k+ price tags and the only low budget hybrid sports car the CR-Z is a failure in every aspect of hybrid and sports car.

iff2mastamatt 03-12-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 29492)
I disagree completely about hybrid sports cars being the future since the only good ones name have 100k+ price tags and the only low budget hybrid sports car the CR-Z is a failure in every aspect of hybrid and sports car.

I concur, I used to think hybrids were awesome but the price tag doesn't justify the purchase. Plus, electric cars are a little far fetched anyways. There ok for limited production but lithium is a natural resource like oil and there is not nearly enough lithium on earth to power every car for even the next 10 years.

xantonin 03-12-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt (Post 29497)
I concur, I used to think hybrids were awesome but the price tag doesn't justify the purchase. Plus, electric cars are a little far fetched anyways. There ok for limited production but lithium is a natural resource like oil and there is not nearly enough lithium on earth to power every car for even the next 10 years.

That's right. And battery technology has made little to no advancement in the last few years.

Not only that, but I do not believe there as a single battery that will last for a decent amount of time and still hold a decent amount of charge.

Dimman 03-12-2011 10:02 PM

They can make biodiesel. Does anyone know if they can make bio-gasoline?

xantonin 03-12-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 29504)
They can make biodiesel. Does anyone know if they can make bio-gasoline?

I don't think so, because the combustion is caused by the compression in diesel where it's easier to compress a bunch of crap as fuel, where as gasoline needs a spark.

My friend runs his Super Duty off of straight used motor oil (filtered down to 2 microns though). He said though that biodiesel wasn't too impressive. Still it ran.

Personally I'd like to see a diesel hybrid, diesel sports car (think turbo), and a diesel bike. Hell, why don't they make straight up electric motorcycles? You can't say they are too heavy to move with an electric engine...

Dimman 03-12-2011 10:21 PM

I mean bio-diesel is refined from vegetable oil instead of mineral oil. Gas is refined from mineral oil too, so could they refine gas from vegetable oil?

If not, I would go for bio-ethanol. More power-friendly in a form I recognize (ie not diesel).

ryun84 03-13-2011 01:22 AM

No.

Hydrogen Fuel Cells are the future of automobiles!

ichitaka05 03-13-2011 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryun84 (Post 29540)
No.

Hydrogen Fuel Cells are the future of automobiles!

Are you talking bout this?

Hydrogen Rx-8
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....RE-resized.jpg

Giccin 03-13-2011 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryun84 (Post 29540)
No.

Hydrogen Fuel Cells are the future of automobiles!

Lol I was thinking the same. Imagine using ocean water as fuel. haha:bonk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 29544)

So does the engine act like a fish?

xantonin 03-13-2011 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 29550)
Lol I was thinking the same. Imagine using ocean water as fuel. haha:bonk:

I think a few months ago you probably could run your car straight off ocean water if you took the water from the gulf of Mexico.

ichitaka05 03-13-2011 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 29550)
Lol I was thinking the same. Imagine using ocean water as fuel. haha:bonk:



So does the engine act like a fish?

LOL IDK, ocean have high amount of salt and other crap, so I'm not sure engine can handle it.

LOL not quite like that, I'm assuming. My guess is like Diesel concept.

btw, Hydrogen isn't the future! this is
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...a05/01copy.jpg

That's right! I have Moogle under my hood! :bellyroll:

ryun84 03-13-2011 01:39 AM

Yes! That Hydrogen RX-8 is sweet! There are a few others too, no? Honda FCX Clarity comes to mind. Having water as a waste product? Sounds good to me.

Edit: LOL! Moogle on treadmill?

xantonin 03-13-2011 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryun84 (Post 29555)
Having water as a waste product? Sounds good to me.

I dunno, the police men here don't like it when I use the bushes next to the local bar to dispose of my personal water waste product.

Giccin 03-13-2011 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 29553)
I think a few months ago you probably could run your car straight off ocean water if you took the water from the gulf of Mexico.

Lol. Would be my new transmission oil as well. "BP. THE NEW SYNTHETIC."
Oh jeez that sounded lame. haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 29554)
LOL IDK, ocean have high amount of salt and other crap, so I'm not sure engine can handle it.

LOL not quite like that, I'm assuming. My guess is like Diesel concept.

btw, Hydrogen isn't the future! this is
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...a05/01copy.jpg

That's right! I have Moogle under my hood! :bellyroll:

So it would sound like..

Pupupupupupupupupupu PUHHHHHHHHHHH.. pupupupupupupupupupupu PUHHHHHHHHHHH

(?!?!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 29558)
I dunno, the police men here don't like it when I use the bushes next to the local bar to dispose of my personal water waste product.

You could've boiled your bodily fluid into phosphate and sell them to match companies. :P

xantonin 03-13-2011 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 29508)
Hell, why don't they make straight up electric motorcycles? You can't say they are too heavy to move with an electric engine...

I spoke too soon!

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/762/89...s-in-WERA.aspx

Can't wait for a production version!

OldSkoolToys 03-13-2011 01:52 AM

The crazy thing is that Ichi bought that car with Gil, not Yen.

ichitaka05 03-13-2011 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 29559)
So it would sound like..

Pupupupupupupupupupu PUHHHHHHHHHHH.. pupupupupupupupupupupu PUHHHHHHHHHHH

(?!?!)

Damn right! My Impreza is one of the kind


Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 29563)
The crazy thing is that Ichi bought that car with Gil, not Yen.

That's right~! It cost me 80,000 gils. I was debating to go w Chocobo powered 240sx or Moogle powered Impreza... wanted Bahamut powered Supra, but that was over 350,000 gils. lol

Giccin 03-13-2011 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 29570)
Damn right! My Impreza is one of the kind




That's right~! It cost me 80,000 gils. I was debating to go w Chocobo powered 240sx or Moogle powered Impreza... wanted Bahamut powered Supra, but that was over 350,000 gils. lol

Better be a golden chocobo. Or powered by the crappiest card in Terra Master? Forgot what it was called.. Gib?

TRDMAN 03-13-2011 03:20 AM

Fuck it i think im just gonna get a 135i. intake tune exhaust 400 hp 400tq handling is crazy. only problem is its pricy and sounds like shit


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