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euthqt 02-29-2016 03:04 PM

Too Sensitive?
 
So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side
Tiny specks in front windshield
Slight sun damage on headlights
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think)
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot.
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? Does anyone else think like this?

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side normal
Tiny specks in front windshield normal
Slight sun damage on headlights it happens
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think) this is an odd one?
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area normal
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot. this is not going to stop happening so better park far away. normal
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)normal

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? Does anyone else think like this?

Okay I responded in red. Also you bought a 30k car, what did you expect it to be?? its not a Mercedes :bellyroll:

euthqt 02-29-2016 03:10 PM

Fair. It's good to see someone reassure me and at least tell me it's all normal.

NyC Zn6 02-29-2016 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side
Tiny specks in front windshield
Slight sun damage on headlights
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think)
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot.
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? Does anyone else think like this?

same issues with my 10 series can't complain as it is a Scion sub 30k car after all. I basically bought it for the weight and chassis :bonk:

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563738)
Fair. It's good to see someone reassure me and at least tell me it's all normal.

Honestly the best way to think about it is that you bought a racecar and it rattles and has all its issues because racecar!

Teseo 02-29-2016 03:19 PM

Mine rattles on the glovebox, driving me crazy.

humfrz 02-29-2016 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot..............

What do you guys think? ............

Welcome to new car ownership ....... :clap:

Yes, "stuff" happens when you drive a car on the highway.

I suggest you get on with fixing the things that can be fixed and learn to live with those that can't be fixed.

Kinda goes like this:

......grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.


;)


humfrz

LOLS2K 02-29-2016 03:39 PM

First car?

zc06_kisstherain 02-29-2016 03:43 PM

sell it

euthqt 02-29-2016 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOLS2K (Post 2563769)
First car?

First quality car, and the first car I've bought myself.

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563796)
First quality car, and the first car I've bought myself.

:bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll: Your so funny!! Only the engine and chassis are quality

kch 02-29-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
Tiny specks in front windshield

Spray some quick detailer on the windshield and scrape with a razor blade. Then use some detailing clay to pick up some more contaminants. Seal up the glass when done. It won't fix it 100%, but it will be an improvement.

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Slight sun damage on headlights
Not much you can do about that now. You can wet sand and polish it out, but make sure you re-seal the lights with something UV-resistant.

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Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot.
Can be 75% fixed with touchup paint, patience, and skill

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Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)
lolyup. although the crickets should only be audible at idle. they disappear above 1200rpm or so. if you still hear them above that, there might be a problem.

Ultramaroon 02-29-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563796)
First quality car, and the first car I've bought myself.

Don't let Go mess with your head. It's a great value. Nothing else like it in its price range. The exact same things were said of the 240Z. Yeah, those didn't survive at all. ;)

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2563843)
Don't let Go mess with your head. It's a great value. Nothing else like it in its price range. The exact same things were said of the 240Z. Yeah, those didn't survive at all. ;)

Hell yeah it is! hahaha I guess I should have also mentioned that. I didnt want to make it seem like they are shit cars

Summerwolf 02-29-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2563823)
:bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll: Your so funny!! Only the engine and chassis are quality



Engine is arguable.....

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2563845)
Engine is arguable.....

hahaha, Mine is bullet proof. I beat the hell out of that thing. :iono:

shiumai 02-29-2016 04:43 PM

My responses in red
Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side I have not had this issue but some have, and taken it to the dealer for adjustment.
Tiny specks in front windshield Normal
Slight sun damage on headlights Use Aerospace303 periodically on our headlights, tail lights and any exposed plastic/rubber/seals http://www.goldeagle.com/tips-tools/...ights-and-more
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think)
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area Maybe the hooker wasn't completely dead?
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot. Try some meguiars ultimate compound unless it's a deep scrape and requires touch up paint.
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes) Try 2 oz of 2-stroke oil per gas tank; that has seemed to help. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21980


NOHOME 02-29-2016 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2563845)
Engine is arguable.....


Careful there young feller, that there is a SACRED cow you be eyeballing.:paddle: Ain't no better internal combustion machine ever been made. Eh?

P86RAVES 02-29-2016 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2563823)
:bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll: Your so funny!! Only the engine and chassis are quality

Congratulations, you played yourself.

FR-Sky 02-29-2016 05:29 PM

Thats how i fix my problem.
I have a N1 exhaust,
and I play my music loud.

GG

Braces 02-29-2016 05:32 PM

Your signature says your car is a 2013. It's new? If so ... the car has been sitting in a lot for the last 2-3 years. I'm sure that has something to do with some of your observations.

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2563932)
Thats how i fix my problem.
I have a N1 exhaust,
and I play my music loud.

GG

Tomie type 80R with full catless and you wont be hearing anything ever again. Problem solved :bellyroll:

Celica00 02-29-2016 05:39 PM

there's a certain hole in the trunk chassis that you can stick an earplug in that'll get rid of the trunk noise (if it's the trunk noise I had to deal w/) search the forums for more details.

ToySub1946 02-29-2016 07:26 PM

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Garage Queen or just drive it and enjoy. At some point we must decide. I decided quite early on....Like day two of new car ownership. Now, 17 months later, and with 26,000 miles on it...I can't look back. Scratches, nicks in paint, rock marks in w/s, front bumper damaged at base, can't worry. This car is designed to be driven on bad roads and things happen in those places. Additionally nothing I could do to avoid flying things on freeways. The car is way lower than most other vehicles on the road, so it's front bumper and w/s are going to receive rocks, pebbles, unlike higher cars. This car will surely bottom out, various places as well. And there's just no way to keep front bumper from hitting things, even in the city. Why should I let it's second owner have all the fun ?

FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-29-2016 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side
Tiny specks in front windshield
Slight sun damage on headlights
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think)
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot.
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? Does anyone else think like this?

kind of normal for a three year old car but now you have a list of things to fix! :happyanim::

Body stuff probably the most expensive to get fixed but best to get fixed all at once by getting quotes from several body shops, most of this stuff is the fault of the environment the car is in :
Scratch from window guide on passenger side
Tiny specks in front windshield
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot.

Easy fix:
Slight sun damage on headlights- headlight restoration kit? OR buy some jdm replica winjets with an HID kit because they look dope imho

Deeper possibly more work, might as well let dealer deal with it stuff:
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think)-
Remove door and take it apart, take this time to remove and dynamat both doors, maybe even the trunk as well?

A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area- read above, check tools, that rear parcel shelf clips etc. even the tools and spare related stuff.

Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)-
Normal ignore them

ToySub1946 02-29-2016 08:27 PM

Door Panel Removal:

First I'd check and make sure the sound is not something under the passenger seat.

There are various videos on YouTube for door panel removal...this just one. Note: This video goes beyond just panel removal.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6TIt9nEB9M"]Vertical Door install Scion FRS Part 4 - YouTube[/ame]

And OP needs to let us know if his car is still under the 3/36 warranty. If so, at least three of the complaints would be fixed for free. Rattles in trunk, there are various fixes for...various technical service bulletins...a problem with 2013 models only. Side window scratched, a fix for that. Rattle in door not common, so possibly the car has been in a body shop for repairs to that door, with no attention to detail of putting parts back in door properly and completely...or may be related to side window scratched by something in door. Crickets, as others have said, totally normal.

MikeyBatz 02-29-2016 09:19 PM

Has anyone got their crickets fixed? other than using 0% ethanol gas.

euthqt 02-29-2016 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2564161)
Door Panel Removal:

First I'd check and make sure the sound is not something under the passenger seat.

There are various videos on YouTube for door panel removal...this just one. Note: This video goes beyond just panel removal.

Vertical Door install Scion FRS Part 4 - YouTube

And OP needs to let us know if his car is still under the 3/36 warranty. If so, at least three of the complaints would be fixed for free. Rattles in trunk, there are various fixes for...various technical service bulletins...a problem with 2013 models only. Side window scratched, a fix for that. Rattle in door not common, so possibly the car has been in a body shop for repairs to that door, with no attention to detail of putting parts back in door properly and completely...or may be related to side window scratched by something in door. Crickets, as others have said, totally normal.

Yep I'm still under my 3/36 warranty so far as I know. I'm gonna give it a go. I'm leaving my car with the dealer Saturday so they can get my glowing badges working (because they've never worked, bought the car @18k miles) and I'm going to see if they can check the door panel to see if anything is rolling around in there.

go_a_way1 02-29-2016 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyBatz (Post 2564207)
Has anyone got their crickets fixed? other than using 0% ethanol gas.

Yup! I found that if I keep the engine cooler (ie oil temps down in 190F range) I have no crickets. During the winter when I remove the thermostat (its a normally open type but still blocks a little flow so I remove it) from my oil cooler and get my oil temps up around 212F it chirps again. Just a observation I made.

ToySub1946 03-01-2016 12:05 AM

Here are some links to recalls and technical service bulletins.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42065

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868

Surely there's a fix for the rear package shelf/trunk rattle. Dealership may have to try several things.

humfrz 03-01-2016 12:20 AM

DANG, @euthqt ......... I misunderstood you.

First you said you "bought the car a few months ago" and then you mentioned "it being a new car".

"So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? Does anyone else think like this?"

Later, you mentioned it had 18,000 miles on it.

"bought the car @18k miles"

So, if you bought a used car, I reckon it just came with those "imperfections" ......:popcorn:


humfrz

Ultramaroon 03-01-2016 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2564443)
So, if you bought a used car, I reckon it just came with those "imperfections" ......:popcorn:


humfrz

Kids these days. SMH :slap:

chaoskaze 03-01-2016 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2563955)
there's a certain hole in the trunk chassis that you can stick an earplug in that'll get rid of the trunk noise (if it's the trunk noise I had to deal w/) search the forums for more details.


What where???


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chaoskaze 03-01-2016 01:50 AM

Too Sensitive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2564105)
This car will surely bottom out, various places as well. And there's just no way to keep front bumper from hitting things, even in the city. Why should I let it's second owner have all the fun ?


Dude & you drive this car on unpaved road??? I almost trapped myself on unpaved road once. Lol


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Packofcrows 03-01-2016 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euthqt (Post 2563722)
So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side
Tiny specks in front windshield
Slight sun damage on headlights
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think)
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot.
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? Does anyone else think like this?

OCD? This car bruises easily. Just enjoy it. It rattles, squeaks, throws random sounds at you and btw thd specs you can half remove with water spot remover and light scrubbing.

Celica00 03-01-2016 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2564512)
What where???


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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=14159&page=2


pic from the thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1344467028


The yellow is the earplug. Stopped all my trunk rattles. Alternatively, you can bend that clip on the other side of the screw to give the same effect. I just stuffed an orange ear plug into the hot lava chassis and it was virtually invisible so no need for me to bend metal.

humfrz 03-01-2016 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2564472)
Kids these days. SMH :slap:

Yep, I hear ya.

I wished they could have been around, back-in-the-day when we were buying used cars.

Open up a barn door and there she sat, all covered with pigeon poop, with two flat tires, a missing battery, 2 quarts low on oil, no gas in the tank and no water in the radiator.

Back to town, pick up a used battery, a couple of retreaded tires and a couple of tire tubes from the junkyard and a couple quarts of cheap oil.

Buy some gas and borrow some water from the seller, change the flat tires, install the battery, pour in the oil and fill up the radiator.

Fire that sucker up and watch the blue smoke fill the barn. Pay the seller in cash and he hands you the title to that fine machine .... done deal!

Pull-er out and down the lane you go. Don't worry about the brakes not working, that's what the "emergency" brake is for. The radiator will hold enough water till you get her home.

When you get her home, add another quart of oil, put a can of stop-leak in the radiator, fill up and bleed the brakes, replace the fan belt, replace a couple of light bulbs and you got yourself your very own car ....... :happyanim:

Clean out the rats nests on the inside, wash that puppy and you are ready to go crus-in ....... :w00t:



humfrz

Ultramaroon 03-01-2016 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2564549)
Yep, I hear ya.

And we were damn happy to find it because it meant our FREEDOM!

dnieves 03-01-2016 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by euthqt http://www.ft86club.com/forums/third...s/viewpost.gif So long story short, I bought a series 10 a few months ago. Now I'm noticing every little tiny issue and they're frustrating me a lot.

For example, the issues I notice are:
Scratch from window guide on passenger side normal
Tiny specks in front windshield An old timer told me to try stainless steel pads and some running compound on the windshield
Slight sun damage on headlights Avoid the sun or use a headlight restorer to remove the top oxidized layer of plastic on you headlights then use Aerospace 303 and put on a clearmask headlight protector
Something rolling around in door on passenger side (I think) Somthing broke off/fell inside -open the panel and look inside
A lot of random sounds coming from the trunk area might want to use silicon between weld joints and maybe a rear brace for additional rigidity?
Small bumper paint scrape from someone tapping me in the parking lot. Park further away from people but not the point the car is isolated and prime for theft or vandalism. This is hard to resolve because there's always a bigger idiot out there to ruin your day.
Lots of crickets (I can hear them even when driving sometimes)Normal but when you hit the accelerator they go away -and keep your hood closed & don't idle in drive throughs.

What do you guys think? Am I hypersensitive due to it being a new car? A little sensitive, go to other forums and see what they have to put up with -even worse when the car is substantially more expensive that this one.
Does anyone else think like this? It's you're investment, you want it to be glitch free but you just need a little perspective (perfect cars sit in museums with empty gas tanks).

finch1750 03-01-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyBatz (Post 2564207)
Has anyone got their crickets fixed? other than using 0% ethanol gas.

there is no fix. the sound is normal


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