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miyoshi82 02-25-2016 04:39 PM

What's the best deal you got out of your dealer?
 
So I'm getting close to getting a new FRS, within a few months to be exact. I'm curious what's the best deal you got out of the dealer when you got your car? Of course there is the Pure Pricing process, but some have claimed that they got a few hundred dollars off and/or got a good deal on factory add-ons. Has anyone ever got the dealer to pay the tax on the car? That's what I am aiming for instead of taking a few hundred off or any factory add-ons since I want to buy the car completely stock.

go_a_way1 02-25-2016 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2560025)
So I'm getting close to getting a new FRS, within a few months to be exact. I'm curious what's the best deal you got out of the dealer when you got your car? Of course there is the Pure Pricing process, but some have claimed that they got a few hundred dollars off and/or got a good deal on factory add-ons. I'm curious has anyone ever got the dealer to pay the tax on the car? That's what I am aiming for instead of taking a few hundred off or any factory add-ons since I want to buy the car completely stock.

Best to ask in a regional sub forum. I paid full MSRP for mine. I took one for a drive (alone) and loved it so much I stopped at a gas station and almost put $5 to keep driving it. At that point I decided to buy one but the wait time was months to get one except on the one I ended up buying as someone canceled that order so I took it home with me.

DAEMANO 02-25-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2560025)
So I'm getting close to getting a new FRS, within a few months to be exact. I'm curious what's the best deal you got out of the dealer when you got your car? Of course there is the Pure Pricing process, but some have claimed that they got a few hundred dollars off and/or got a good deal on factory add-ons. I'm curious has anyone ever got the dealer to pay the tax on the car? That's what I am aiming for instead of taking a few hundred off or any factory add-ons since I want to buy the car completely stock.

With the Scion brand folding up, I wouldn't be surprised if Pure Pricing isn't enforced AT ALL. I'd definitely shop around and see which dealers in your area will work with you. Now that the announcement has been made, dealers should be aggressively trying to dump their Scion branded cars to your benefit.

MarcFr-s 02-26-2016 12:22 AM

I got a good deal from Diane at Carson Toyota, Fleet & Internet Director. Bit of a drive for you but might be worth it. Check out True Car as well, that is how I found Diane. There was a Credit Union new car loan promo when you used their buying service, which was True Car. Back in August of 2013.

86geek 02-26-2016 01:58 AM

the interest rate i got was 0.9%....that's the best I got from the dealer.

mav1178 02-26-2016 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by miyoshi82 (Post 2560025)
Has anyone ever got the dealer to pay the tax on the car? That's what I am aiming for instead of taking a few hundred off or any factory add-ons since I want to buy the car completely stock.

So you basically want $2300+ off the price of the car, instead of a few hundred off... correct?

-alex

Impureclient 02-26-2016 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2560706)
So you basically want $2300+ off the price of the car, instead of a few hundred off... correct?

-alex


Instead of asking for the tax off of the price, which is insane to think they'd go along with that, I'd just ask to sleep with the salesman's wife. Or sleep with the saleslady's husband since we are an equal society now. Either way, it'd be a tough sale.

Kaotic Lazagna 02-26-2016 03:16 AM

Unrealistic offers will just get you a "wtf face" and the dealership will have no issue letting you walk out.

Kaotic Lazagna 02-26-2016 03:25 AM

Your best bet would be to stay local. A nonlocal dealership will have no reason to sell you a car for more than they would normally discount a car. As a local customer, you would be more likely to utilize their service department and/or purchase from their parts department. As a nonlocal customer, they will more likely never see you again. So you will have more leeway as a local customer at your local dealership.

Do your research beforehand on interest rate. It is not really the dealerships fault if your score only qualifies for a higher interest rate. Know what your general credit score is to somewhat gauge where your auto fico score may be (the two can be very different from each other). That way you know what standard new car rate you are entitled to. Also see if your region has any special, incentivized rates for the FR-S.

Lastly, if you have a trade, don't withhold that info until the last moment, in hopes of using it as a bargaining tool. Be realistic in what its trade in value, not private sale value, is. If your local dealership is fair, use the KBB "good" trade in value as the highest value you would get.

mdm 02-26-2016 10:29 AM

Do dealers factor in your previous relationship with them? If the service department serviced my current car for many years (even though this is not the dealership closest to my home), should I point it out to the sales department, or it won't matter?
If I were buying, I would be rather interested in actual price discount, or maybe getting winter tires and another set of rims for just a few bucks (or for free).
Not in financing options.

gtslow 02-26-2016 11:19 AM

There are tons of factors involved when buying a car that can affect the price you receive. I've always done well buying cars under the following conditions:

1. The vehicle isn't the latest & greatest (demand is lower)
2. It is off season. E.g. Buying a sports car in the winter.
3. It is the end of the month. Dealer has #'s to hit and is likely to negotiate.


You can get a good idea what you will pay based upon buying resources like true-car or other regional members experiences. You can get better deals if there are multiple dealerships in the area who you can negotiate with.

A buddy of mine sent a well-worded email to about 8 Subaru dealerships to get the best price on his 2015 STI. It took him less time than going to every dealer, and he could write them off if they didn't want to work with him.

As far as Scion is concerned I don't know how flexible they are with pricing at the moment, but I'd guess any leftover 2016 Scions will have huge incentives when the badges start hitting. The FR-S will probably be less than others as it is a lower volume car.

berkbrzfan 02-26-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 2560733)
Your best bet would be to stay local. A nonlocal dealership will have no reason to sell you a car for more than they would normally discount a car. As a local customer, you would be more likely to utilize their service department and/or purchase from their parts department. As a nonlocal customer, they will more likely never see you again. So you will have more leeway as a local customer at your local dealership.

This is true if there are enough local dealers around you. I stay at a place where there is almost a monopoly by a single Subaru dealer. When I approached them, it was as if you either buy it their way or walk off. They knew they had enough customers anways.

I ended up buying from a small dealer who was more than 2 hours away and who had just one BRZ which has been sitting at the lot for a while. They wanted to get rid of it and I got a good deal.

Who8myrice 02-26-2016 11:54 AM

Scions have very little profit, don't expect American car discount

Kaotic Lazagna 02-26-2016 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by berkbrzfan (Post 2560941)
This is true if there are enough local dealers around you. I stay at a place where there is almost a monopoly by a single Subaru dealer. When I approached them, it was as if you either buy it their way or walk off. They knew they had enough customers anways.

I ended up buying from a small dealer who was more than 2 hours away and who had just one BRZ which has been sitting at the lot for a while. They wanted to get rid of it and I got a good deal.

Yeah, different for the FR-S since there's a Toyota every 10 miles or so. I'm not even sure where the nearest Subaru to me is :lol:

Kaotic Lazagna 02-26-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2560884)
Do dealers factor in your previous relationship with them? If the service department serviced my current car for many years (even though this is not the dealership closest to my home), should I point it out to the sales department, or it won't matter?
If I were buying, I would be rather interested in actual price discount, or maybe getting winter tires and another set of rims for just a few bucks (or for free).
Not in financing options.

Yeah, point it out, especially if you're planning on continuing servicing with them.

As for getting another set of wheels and or tires for free, that's most likely not going to happen. They may be able to help you get some money off of them (separate department).

Who8myrice 02-26-2016 03:02 PM

If you shopped around for other brand before and expect like similar deal, it won't work with Frs. I can't say too much but the car has no reserve and no hold back. I am kind of curious how If Toyota is going to change that when scion is gone.

machewcoy 02-26-2016 04:44 PM

I got mine at sticker-price out of the door, along with extended coverage/warranty with a low interest rate. Not too shabby. Then again, it was a 2014 and had sat on the lot for a year.

MrDinkleman 02-26-2016 04:58 PM

I stopped "shopping" for cars a long time ago. Just fed up with the lies and BS salesmen and their managers spew, the "high pressure" tactics such as "I can give it to you for this price if you buy now!", and the hours wasted going through a second round of negotiations with the Finance Guy. So I don't know what my "best deal" would/could/should have been.

I used to look for "loss leader" ads ("One only at this price!") in the Sunday newspaper but most ads are now for lease "deals" only. Plus you still have to waste hours with the Finance Guy.

So, now I just use Carsdirect and if I like their price (which I generally do), I go buy the car at the dealership they send me to. Papers are pre-prepared and it takes 30 minutes or the time it takes for the dealer to clean the car (whichever is greater) to drive off with a new car. Sadly, they have changed their business model lately so I may purchase my next car through Costco or some other online car sales site.

FR-Sky 02-26-2016 05:24 PM

i bought my 10 series 19600 miles,,$25000 out the door with 8 years/100k miles platinum package.

good deal or i got rip?

g e 02-27-2016 07:07 PM

When I bought my 2009 GTI I had to meet the finance guy. I knew what to expect and was curious to heAr his spiel. So I let him pitch me on their various maintence plans. After he had gone on for 15-20 minutes I said thanks but I'll just self insure (setting aside the money I would have paid for the contract for the duration of the mfg warranty period). I went on to say that was if I don't have any unexpected issues I will still have all my money!

Guy threw a temper tantrum, slamming file drawers shut, making funny little noises. Highly amusing.

My BRZ is way more funner than the GTI was.

roddy 02-27-2016 07:26 PM

Another thing you can do to sweeten the deal (if you plan on doing your own maintenance) is negotiate a price break on parts. Most dealerships would be willing to give jobber (garage) price on parts if you buy the car from them (usually 10 to 20 percent). It may not sound like a lot, but it does add up.


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