Driving without passenger seat?
 

I need to ask this question because sooner or later, i'm going to have to pack my car with high readiness gear. I have a barrack box and random military gear that obviously wont fit in the trunk, but it'll fit only with the passenger seat removed. I understand the dangers of loose equipment, but this will be a short ride.

Will removing my passenger seat disable both airbags or just the passengers airbag? I tried doing this with my old civic, and it disabled both airbags

Well..... I can't really answer to the first part, but removing the passenger seat will disable the passenger air bag, duh. And you'll have an air bag light come on. Other than that, it's fine.

you don't need to answer the first part, i've already mentioned my military gear will fit. I'm not sure if you're sarcastic "duh" means your certain that only the passenger airbag will be disabled or not.

more input needed

I would imagine only the one is disabled, why would 2 not work if just 1 is removed? It would make more sense for all to be disabled or just the 1. BTW why does it matter if its a short trip and only once? Its not like your planning on setting them off haha

edit: and with all that stuff in the car if you wreak an airbag isnt going to save you

Well he said with his Civic, removing passenger seat disabled both airbags. Maybe some kind of tamper detection feature? Who knows.

I don't know if the same would happen with the twins. Some of the track guys could probably tell you.

I have fit so much in my car with the rear seat removed. I have Googled the size of the box. It should fit behind both front seats. Or, I must not understand its size. Have you tried folding the rear seat down, sorry if it's a silly question.

How big is this box? How much gear are we talking?

I've fit a twin mattress in mine. Literally. With the seats still in it.

Your way over thinking this. Just remove the seat. Pack your car and go.
Like Go-a-way1 said with all that stuff airbags are null.
If for some reason your worried about safety, rent a truck, have some one drop you off. Problem solved.

Trucks because they haul shit

Do you have any idea the stress involved being military? Sounds like you don't understand. He needs to over think and think outside the box, he can't just simply rent a truck at a moments notice and drop off his GEAR. You probably need to be with your gear ALL the time!!

I understand what Lorico is saying, if he's given the call to be deployed, he can simply remove his seats, throw his shit in, drive to the location and go.

I have many friends in the military, life's tough.

Never heard of a soldier carrying anything around. My buddy was issued his stuff at check point. Will they even let you carry it around? Usually checked and checked out

You might be better off if both are disabled if they are Takata airbags.

I can't answer your question but you will love how much space there is with passenger seat removed!


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They are not (Thank goodness)

Must have been very different back in my day (and Canada eh). You put all your gear in a big box slapped a label on it and it somehow was waiting for you when you got to your deployment. The L&T fairies (the winged kind not the other) had strong magic. Mind you we had to do all travel in number one (dress) uniforms so you had to carry your duffel bag with your civvies and work dress but that was about all. I can't even fathom the pain in the butt it would be to try and move my entire kit from posting to posting.
Coming back from Vegas last month there were two guys with a cart full of barracks boxes, duffle bags and hand gun lockups at the airport and I thought it was odd they were checking all that stuff. Now I know why!

To my knowledge you keep all your gear minus the gun(and maybe flak vest but my step dad did have his helmet... never saw a vest though). OP needs to be able to quickly load all his shit at a moment's notice. No time to get a ride or a truck. Probably disables passenger only but it doesn't really matter, just drive safe.

Generally you're keeping everything minus serialized kit. So, no gat, sight, magazines, etc. Some dudes keep their bayonet, but I don't since that's extra shit I need to not lose.

It's a lot of stuff. I just came off an exercise where all I had was a ruck satchel, back pack and my tac-vest and it barely fit into the car. Ruck had to go onto the passenger seat.

That is day to day stuff though. If deployed you would not be expected to get all that shit where you were going. It would be shipped for you. Not unless things have changed dramatically. Now mind you my last years were spent as Navy and an Officer so there was very little I had to lug around anyway so my experiences may no longer be accurate.

The high readiness thing is a bit different. A friend of mine at 1 CER was on it for something like 18 months. Basically you need to keep a bug-out bag (but of course it turns into your ruck, small pack, duffel bags and a barracks box) ready pretty much always.

Kinda like, get the call, grab your shit, drive to your coy/bty/whatever lines and gtfo

Edit: You probably had a bat boy for all that stuff, so it wouldn't apply to you anyhow ;)

Edit again: @Lorico not sure about Ontario, but in Ab at least, it is illegal to drive around with loose stuff in the car. Not sure if it's only in commercial vehicles or not. But I was given a cargo net to Macgyver into the back seat of work truck so that all the loose equipment I carry around could be secured.

finally military guys can chime in. At least they know what it means to leave at a moments notice.

OP whats in the high readiness kit?

Why not spend $250 on a hitch and rent a small trailer from U-Haul?

Going to assume (so, take this with a grain of salt) but, every day dress (combat pants and tunic, underwear, t-shirts and socks) then field gear as well for a variety of climates (arctic to jungle to temperate to desert). Including tac-vest, frag vest and bucket. OP is probably packing differently every couple weeks/months so he doesn't have every single piece of kit packed at all times.

High readiness could mean anything from being called to fight forest fires (I did that, was on call for about a year) to assisting in a natural disaster abroad to the Communists invading (Wolveriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiines)

We had that as well but I suppose we had a lot less shit back then since everything for bug out could be placed in one small rucksack. Pretty much just webbing helmet and canteen. More like 'Nam equipment than now.
I think OP was talking about all of his gear not just the basics though.


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Yeah, this would be bugging out with a plethora of stuff. We're far better equipped now than even 15 years ago.

I could be entirely wrong though. Will need to see what OP's requirements actually are.

Edit: Wish I was issued a '64 pack instead of buying one. I hate the new ruck design. Even preferred the '84 pack to it.

Stick a resistor in it. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16293

Then your airbags will work for sure.

Ya see there is the difference right there. We had one set of equipment for all climates not a bunch of different patterns and styles. If you were sent north then they gave you the cold weather stuff when you got there (and you froze your ass off until somebody got around to doing it). If you were sent to the desert you rolled up the sleeves on your green shirt and carried on.

Yeah, right now, I currently have 2 large rubbermaid bins full of kit (mostly arctic stuff, because I don't need that ready to go in SWO), 2 duffel bags full, a full ruck sack and 2 full valises of sleeping kit. Really overkill, but I guess it irons out the possible logistical shortfalls that could happen if you're issued kit when you get to your destination.

Well we were set to fight the Soviets and back then it meant we would all probably be radioactive dust if anything major blew up so logistics were not really and issue.
Beside that was what I did so we would get the good stuff first anyway.


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Can't dispute that. And what a surprise, the sock goblins taking all the good kit for themselves :thumbsup:

Welp, back in the old Army, on my last tour, I had a female jeep driver, that would pick me up at the door of my BOQ. All I had to do was throw on my uniform, lace up my boots and grab my ol .45 (that never left my side).

She would have everything packed and ready to go ....... including a supply of peanut butter & jelly sandwiches and cartons of milk ...... packed in .50 cal. MG ammo cans.

Picture is NOT my actual driver.

HOOAH!


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Did anyone mention removing the rear seats completely rather than folding down for a bit more depth?

I think I'm the only person in this thread who actually answered the OP's question. Since when am I the responsible one?

I removed my passenger seat and used the resistor method. It works! my drivers side airbag is functioning! Thanks for your answer!

Does that mean the passenger side is too?

Actual driver:


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the passengers side is disabled only because the passenger side has a weight sensor.

Removing passenger's seat disabled both airbags, resister mimics a seat (without a passenger sitting still has your passenger airbag off)

Ahh I gotcha. Very good. And I believe it checks for a magnetic field not weight cuz my phone will set it off but not much heavier nonmetal items

oh yea thats true, i always leave my iphone 6 on my seat and sometimes i hear that annoying seat belt charm.

anyways, i hope this will help others out if they need to travel or what not. I'll have to take pics next time, it was way too cold to this time. It only takes 15 minutes and those bolts didn't strip on me either. I used snap on sockets (finally used these expensive guys)