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MisterSheep 02-12-2016 02:22 PM

Brand New Transmission.. 5th gear rattles??
 
Hello all,

Just had my transmission replaced under warranty yesterday and I've noticed every time I shift into 5th gear the whole shifter assembly vibrates vigorously. The problem ONLY happens in 5th gear and can be recreated every time I shift into 5th wether i'm shifting from 4th to 5th, or 6th to 5th. I will be holding the shifter and then can feel the shifter vibrate a noticable amount more than every other gear. I will most likely end up calling the dealer to see why it's doing this but I want to check with you guys first to see if this might be normal for a new transmission?

humfrz 02-12-2016 04:17 PM

hmmmm........well, mine never did do that.

When you say it vibrates, does it vibrate when your hand is NOT on the shifter?

If so, can you "see" it vibrate (move)? Can you hear it vibrate (hand not on the shifter).


humfrz

MisterSheep 02-12-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2545787)
hmmmm........well, mine never did do that.

When you say it vibrates, does it vibrate when your hand is NOT on the shifter?

If so, can you "see" it vibrate (move)? Can you hear it vibrate (hand not on the shifter).


humfrz

I can feel it vibrate when my hand is on the shifter. Unfortunately I can not see it vibrate. But I was able to test it some at lunch today and it vibrates faster to correspondance how fast the gear is going/ aka I can feel it vibrating faster when I'm in higher RPMs and have my hand on the shifter.

I know something like that typically seems normal but when it's the only gear that does it and it's doing it this vigorously is concerning.

MisterSheep 02-12-2016 04:31 PM

The best way I can explain this rattle is that the shifter feels like it's rubbing up against something thats rotational in 5th gear and translates the rotation as vibrations through the shifter.

humfrz 02-12-2016 04:33 PM

Well, the smart a _ _ remark/solution would be to take your hand off of the shifter after it's in gear .....;)

The next time I get up into 5th gear ...... I'll see if mine will do that.

If I were you, I'd give your new transmission a few hundred miles, to see if it settles down.


humfrz

MisterSheep 02-12-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2545810)
Well, the smart a _ _ remark/solution would be to take your hand off of the shifter after it's in gear .....;)

The next time I get up into 5th gear ...... I'll see if mine will do that.

If I were you, I'd give your new transmission a few hundred miles, to see if it settles down.


humfrz

I also loose my warranty in about 1k miles. I know that should be the smart thing as I normally never rest my hand on the shifter but I felt it while shifting gears so I decided to start testing it.

humfrz 02-12-2016 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2545819)
I also loose my warranty in about 1k miles. I know that should be the smart thing as I normally never rest my hand on the shifter but I felt it while shifting gears so I decided to start testing it.

Well, it that case, you might consider going back to the dealer and have a tech to take a ride to give a second opinion (that would get your concern on paper).

While you're at the dealership, ask to drive another car, to get a comparison.

Then, if the tech says it's "normal" and you can (or cannot) feel a difference with the other car, give it about 500 miles to break in.


humfrz

MisterSheep 02-12-2016 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2545947)
Well, it that case, you might consider going back to the dealer and have a tech to take a ride to give a second opinion (that would get your concern on paper).

While you're at the dealership, ask to drive another car, to get a comparison.

Then, if the tech says it's "normal" and you can (or cannot) feel a difference with the other car, give it about 500 miles to break in.


humfrz

I'll give the dealership a call on Saturday.

humfrz 02-12-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2545970)
I'll give the dealership a call on Saturday.

Good plan!

I just returned from a trip up to the gym ...... well, not exactly, I was waiting outside the take-em-away-U-bake-pizza place (for them to make a pizza) and watched those people in the gym, sweating on those machines ..... and getting nowhere ....... anyway, I put my 2013 FR-S in 5th gear on the way back .... and didn't notice any vibration ...... whether mu hand was on the gear shift or not.

Time for a nap ..... I'm all wore out ...... watching those folks at the gym ..... ZZZZZ


humfrz

chaoskaze 02-12-2016 07:58 PM

Just guessing but that could be one of those symptoms you get when your transmission isn't fully sat on transmission mount but it's a bit off. Which is possible since they probably used the old mount?


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Ultramaroon 02-12-2016 11:58 PM

Sheep, do you feel it in 6th gear as well? Do you feel this while you're putting pressure on the gearshift, or all the time?

WNDSRFR 02-13-2016 11:33 AM

This is not normal. I had my transmission replaced because of a bad 5th gear syncro. The new transmission has been smooth as glass since day one. Bring it back to the dealer. This is not right.

humfrz 02-13-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR (Post 2546652)
This is not normal. I had my transmission replaced because of a bad 5th gear syncro. The new transmission has been smooth as glass since day one. Bring it back to the dealer. This is not right.

Oh, please don't say "glass" ....... too many people already think our transmissions are made of glass ....... :confused0068:


humfrz

Packofcrows 02-13-2016 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2545819)
I also loose my warranty in about 1k miles.

Even if you rested your hand on it, this shouldnt happen. This close to warranty end you should take it in ASAP!

Don't let them blame you for vibration. Mine doesn't do that, but I did notice 6th gear has high frequency whine.

billwot 02-13-2016 09:54 PM

:rolleyes:Let me see...

I had a new tranny installed under warranty...the new installation is defective...and I have 1000 mi left on my warranty.

I wonder if I should return to the dealership...?

Boy, that's a tough one!

Oh wait, I'll just see what the guys on the internet say! :rolleyes:

Bonburner 02-13-2016 10:20 PM

I'd have to say this is not normal

I had mine replaced and my 5th gear does not vibrate more or less than any other gear
What I did notice is that my 5th gear is shorter than my original .. not sure why Hahaha






Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2546862)
Oh, please don't say "glass" ....... too many people already think our transmissions are made of glass ....... :confused0068:


humfrz

But it is o.o
Lol

mav1178 02-13-2016 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2545819)
I also loose my warranty in about 1k miles.

Parts replaced under warranty with new, OE Subaru/Toyota parts will not be limited by your warranty expiration date/mileage.

It usually is an additional 12 months or 12000 miles, or your vehicle warranty. Whichever is greater.

-alex

chaoskaze 02-14-2016 12:46 AM

Anyone mind telling me How do you know you have a bad syncho??

I had problem with my 2nd & 5th O.o so i change fluid to mutol then it's a lot better... but once in the bluemoon my 5th gear acts up...so........ help?

humfrz 02-14-2016 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2547210)
Anyone mind telling me How do you know you have a bad syncho??

I had problem with my 2nd & 5th O.o so i change fluid to mutol then it's a lot better... but once in the bluemoon my 5th gear acts up...so........ help?

Well, usually, when a synchronizer is bad (or going bad) the transmission will "grind" going into gear. After a synchronizer has been eaten up, about the only way to shift gears, without grinding, is by double clutching and/or rev matching or jake shifting.

It's been my experience that when I "grind" going into 5th or 6th, it's because I've "lazy legged" the clutch (didn't push it all the way down).

Yep, slow, firm and steady ......that's what she likes ...... :D


humfrz

MisterSheep 02-15-2016 01:45 AM

I have set up a tech to drive the car after work on monday. I will update with what they say after.

MisterSheep 04-06-2016 01:51 PM

updating this thread with this thread here..

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104065

Took it back to a different dealer and they said it wasn't normal and to have the bushings replaced. I wanted to call the dealer again today because they seem to be giving me the go around and don't exactly want to work on it. What should I ask them to check while the car is there?

ZionsWrath 04-06-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billwot (Post 2547106)
:rolleyes:Let me see...

I had a new tranny installed under warranty...the new installation is defective...and I have 1000 mi left on my warranty.

I wonder if I should return to the dealership...?

Boy, that's a tough one!

Oh wait, I'll just see what the guys on the internet say! :rolleyes:

A dealership repair should have a 1 year/12,000 mile warranty independent of you new car warranty


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