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MyRx 02-11-2016 04:08 PM

Welcome to the 2016 Norcal 86CUP presented by Cusco-Winmax, GT Radial, CSG, & others
 
2016 Norcal 86CUP presented by Cusco-Winmax, GT-Radial


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Photo courtesy of Scott Grasso Photography @http://scottgrassophotography.com/

86CUP is the premier independently organized FRS/BRZ Time Trial series in North America. Utilizing a ruleset that is specific to the platforms, the 86CUP aims to provide a friendly, safe environment in which 86 enthusiasts can hone their driving skills. Come join us at our events, get a ride, and experience the true capabilities of our platform in its natural environment!

With the success of previous years and a growing population, we could not help but expand and welcome new track organizers as well new supporters to 86Cup. Cusco-Winmax, GT-Radial, and CounterSpace Garage have been phenomenal to our growing needs and will continue to support the 86Cup for 2016. New for 2016 is Elite Performance, Burlingame. They have been a silent partner for a while now supporting our stock and modified FRS/BRZs with parts, installs, ECU tuning, and any other track-prep our cars need. Last but not least is 86drive . Norcal's group of enthusiasts that continues to grow from canyon carving to track driving. A few of Norcal 86Cups' regularly attendance still maintain their canyon carving prowess while letting it all hang out at an 86Cup event.

2016 also brings us two new track organizers hosting our 86Cup events! NCRC has been our father on the track and 2016 will mark our 3rd-season relationship with NCRC. Our newest addition to hosting 86Cup track days is SpeedSF . An established group, SpeedSF has some of Norcal's most experienced drivers utilizing a wide variety of performance vehicles. The next and upcoming 2016 86Cup track hosts is Exclusive Trackdays . They offer private trackdays with limited crowds and more track time.

2016 86CUP Rules
Visit Socal's https://www.86cup.us/ site for rules, regulations, and more info.

2016 Norcal 86Cup Schedule:

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Registrations is now open for majority of the earlier events however, you may not immediately see an 86Cup category. I am still working with the track organizers' to include an 86Cup registration/format.

NCRC --> http://www.ncracing.org/ Chrono Series --> http://www.chronoseries.com/
SpeedSF --> http://www.speedsf.com/
Exclusive Trackdays --> http://www.exclusivetrackdays.org/#exclusivetrackdays


See you at the track. :thanks:

MyRx 02-11-2016 04:09 PM

GT Radial USA contingency program for 2016 86Cup:

I have the decals! @Elite Performance has the tires in different sizes (mount/balance while you wait). Next time I go to Elite, I'll bring the decals.

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MyRx 02-11-2016 04:12 PM

Reserved 2

CSG Mike 02-11-2016 04:25 PM

I love this.

phanguy 02-11-2016 04:30 PM

i'm really interested, but i'm super paranoid and scared to wreck my car. haha. i think i'd still like to attend to watch though.

MyRx 02-11-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 2544458)
i'm really interested, but i'm super paranoid and scared to wreck my car. haha. i think i'd still like to attend to watch though.

Not a minute goes by where I don't have the same concern. I think that's what keeps me at my limits.

MisterSheep 02-11-2016 04:55 PM

Wow, there are going to be Sanoma events this year?? Nice :thumbsup:

xero404 02-11-2016 05:03 PM

YES! glad to see the schedule is up. Adding to google calendar now.

strat61caster 02-11-2016 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 2544458)
i'm really interested, but i'm super paranoid and scared to wreck my car. haha. i think i'd still like to attend to watch though.

The amount of risk you take is personal, there's no reason you can't go out there and cruise around at 8/10ths of the car's capabililties, never hear the tires squeal once, never get on ABS and have a good time. A good instructor riding shotgun will talk you through everything and build you up, not push you past what you're capable of and help you leave with a good feeling in your gut.

HPDE's are generally not competitions and if I remember correctly NCRC won't even let you compete without approval via an instructor riding along and assessing your skills before they'll let you register for the higher classes (that might have changed or is not strictly enforced).

Ask around, find a group that fits your schedule with a reputation for good instruction, maybe go with a buddy. And if you go to watch, try to find a good seat right next to a fast driver just before he heads out on track if you know what I mean ;)

Most people are friendly and willing to give rides.

The Racers Line 02-11-2016 06:30 PM

@MyRx

Pretty stoked to see Speed SF will be hosting some events, I know Elite is pretty close with those guys.

Since Speed SF runs their own little time attack group for one session, will they be allowing 86Cup participants in as well? (might be neat to have less traffic for some flying laps)

I know with Exclusive Track Days the 86 Cup participants will be getting their own run group all day, so that will be an event not to miss!

MyRx 02-11-2016 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Racers Line (Post 2544608)
@MyRx

Pretty stoked to see Speed SF will be hosting some events, I know Elite is pretty close with those guys.

Since Speed SF runs their own little time attack group for one session, will they be allowing 86Cup participants in as well? (might be neat to have less traffic for some flying laps)

I know with Exclusive Track Days the 86 Cup participants will be getting their own run group all day, so that will be an event not to miss!

I'm working out the details with SpeedSF. They have a different running convention than what we are used to. It will be fun with SpeedSF.

Yes, Exclusive Track Days should be an exclusive one. One that could entice Socal 86Cup to join us...on the new side of Thunderhill.

PMok 02-11-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanguy (Post 2544458)
i'm really interested, but i'm super paranoid and scared to wreck my car. haha. i think i'd still like to attend to watch though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2544551)
HPDE's are generally not competitions and if I remember correctly NCRC won't even let you compete without approval via an instructor riding along and assessing your skills before they'll let you register for the higher classes (that might have changed or is not strictly enforced).

Track-day insurance is available for people who are just getting started ... and some standard auto insurance companies (State Farm comes to mind as one) do in fact still cover you in an accident if you are participating in a driver-education event (HPDE). Just to give you some more peace-of-mind... although once you start competing that may not be covered. But if you are new to the sport and want to give it a try, it's something to look into.

Nonetheless, definitely come out and check out the action trackside!

The Racers Line 02-11-2016 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 2544617)
I'm working out the details with SpeedSF. They have a different running convention than what we are used to. It will be fun with SpeedSF.

Yes, Exclusive Track Days should be an exclusive one. One that could entice Socal 86Cup to join us...on the new side of Thunderhill.

Sweet!

A joint Socal/Norcal 86 Cup at Thunderhill West would be epic. That track was built for these cars.

DarkPhoenix 02-12-2016 03:04 PM

Heh the new side of Thunderhill still makes me twitchy, but admittedly, the last time I was on it was in a NASA safety truck and I was responding to a grass fire. Let me tell you, those trucks do NOT turn well and that track was narrow as hell through some of them. :D

I may consider Sonoma though since I'm literally right down the road. Besides, my husband's Focus has been out there and earned its sticker so it's my turn in the FR-S. (For the record, turn 2 at Sonoma in a 2012 Focus SE is a frightening experience because it almost baaaarely makes it up that incline.)

sw20kosh 02-12-2016 03:07 PM

This is pure WIN!

MyRx 02-12-2016 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix (Post 2545759)
Heh the new side of Thunderhill still makes me twitchy, but admittedly, the last time I was on it was in a NASA safety truck and I was responding to a grass fire. Let me tell you, those trucks do NOT turn well and that track was narrow as hell through some of them. :D

I may consider Sonoma though since I'm literally right down the road. Besides, my husband's Focus has been out there and earned its sticker so it's my turn in the FR-S. (For the record, turn 2 at Sonoma in a 2012 Focus SE is a frightening experience because it almost baaaarely makes it up that incline.)

Thanks for sharing and hope to see you out there.

You're right, Thill West is some single-lane, go-kart-like mechanics required...which I could not see our cars better belonging to.

Sonoma has been a long time coming. Fortunately for the 86Cup, SpeedSF is experienced with Sonoma.

Cop 02-12-2016 03:55 PM

See you guys at Sonoma (hopefully).

AyJay 02-14-2016 12:39 PM

Thanks once again for donating your time to make this happen MyRx. Much appreciated!

Cop 02-18-2016 12:32 AM

Quick question about Sonoma, will I have any issues regarding the noise restriction with a header + exhaust?

BAMF86 02-18-2016 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cop (Post 2552576)
Quick question about Sonoma, will I have any issues regarding the noise restriction with a header + exhaust?

SpeedSF registration says Sonoma sound limit is 103db so you should be fine. I know some people have trouble passing sound at laguna with catless header + exhaust since their limit is around 92db

MyRx 02-18-2016 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cop (Post 2552576)
Quick question about Sonoma, will I have any issues regarding the noise restriction with a header + exhaust?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAMF86 (Post 2552605)
SpeedSF registration says Sonoma sound limit is 103db so you should be fine. I know some people have trouble passing sound at laguna with catless header + exhaust since their limit is around 92db

Laguna Seca has the greatest reinforcement of the db rules.

Bach415 02-18-2016 12:56 PM

I want to join in... but my car isn't ready for anything yet :( nor do I have the finance to do it.

MyRx 02-18-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bach415 (Post 2552934)
I want to join in... but my car isn't ready for anything yet :( nor do I have the finance to do it.

First step to joining in is to spectate :party0030:

kster1 02-18-2016 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bach415 (Post 2552934)
I want to join in... but my car isn't ready for anything yet :( nor do I have the finance to do it.

Got to an autox or a BMWCCA car control clinic (bonus points if wet). You can take a bone stock car and it costs much less than a track event. Learn to feel both the front and rear wheels sliding, and how to recover from that. Having some car control practice in a parking lot will help immensely when you get to a road course.

Bach415 02-18-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 2553137)
First step to joining in is to spectate :party0030:

Haha maybe I will come spectate and if possible sit in one of you guys car for the experience!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kster1 (Post 2553142)
Got to an autox or a BMWCCA car control clinic (bonus points if wet). You can take a bone stock car and it costs much less than a track event. Learn to feel both the front and rear wheels sliding, and how to recover from that. Having some car control practice in a parking lot will help immensely when you get to a road course.

I was planning to but hell im in need of tires. Their almost bald! Gotta get that done and alignment before I do anything else importantly


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The Racers Line 02-24-2016 01:48 PM

Just registered for Sonoma!

Just looked at the currently registered names, and there aren't very many 86 Cup people signed up. Come on guys!

Cop 02-24-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Racers Line (Post 2558752)
Just registered for Sonoma!

Just looked at the currently registered names, and there aren't very many 86 Cup people signed up. Come on guys!

Will sign up when I go home today. Excited to meet the norcal folks :)

Krispeee 03-13-2016 02:48 PM

I just registered for Thunderhill West with SpeedSF on 4/17. First time running with this group and I was wondering how they conduct time trials. Are they similar to NCRC?

To sign up for 86 cup, do I check the SpeedSF challenge during registration? It's an extra $20 but includes transponder and "Bonus extra session with vehicle grid by their fastest lap time".

BAMF86 03-13-2016 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krispeee (Post 2579489)
I just registered for Thunderhill West with SpeedSF on 4/17. First time running with this group and I was wondering how they conduct time trials. Are they similar to NCRC?

To sign up for 86 cup, do I check the SpeedSF challenge during registration? It's an extra $20 but includes transponder and "Bonus extra session with vehicle grid by their fastest lap time".

You don't necessarily need to sign up for the SpeedSF challenge to be timed for 86cup. They still count your times during the sessions.

They have the separate speedsf time trial session during lunch, starting you on grid based on best time. Great way to try and beat your PBs without hitting traffic

Krispeee 03-13-2016 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAMF86 (Post 2579636)
You don't necessarily need to sign up for the SpeedSF challenge to be timed for 86cup. They still count your times during the sessions.



They have the separate speedsf time trial session during lunch, starting you on grid based on best time. Great way to try and beat your PBs without hitting traffic


Thanks for confirming!


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Pwolf 03-14-2016 09:09 PM

Sonoma was pretty wet yesterday but that didn't stop some people from testing their skills. Unfortunately there was only one 86Cup participant in the morning, @AyJay. Luck for him though, he got his own personal track photographer! This was also my first chance to take track pictures with my new lens :D

Here are some pictures of Adam going around the track plus a few extras. Link to the gallery page afterwards.

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There was a lot of this going on both on the skidpad (fortunately) and on the track (unfortunately)

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The rest of the pictures can be seen here:

http://scottgrassophotography.com/86...onoma-raceway/

As always, if you would like higher-res copies of any of the photos, please let me know.

MyRx 03-15-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krispeee (Post 2579489)
I just registered for Thunderhill West with SpeedSF on 4/17. First time running with this group and I was wondering how they conduct time trials. Are they similar to NCRC?

To sign up for 86 cup, do I check the SpeedSF challenge during registration? It's an extra $20 but includes transponder and "Bonus extra session with vehicle grid by their fastest lap time".

Yes, having the transponder will record your time. I will take your time from SpeedSF. Unless of course, you have your own personal Aim Solo (DL or not), I can take your time from that too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAMF86 (Post 2579636)
You don't necessarily need to sign up for the SpeedSF challenge to be timed for 86cup. They still count your times during the sessions.

They have the separate speedsf time trial session during lunch, starting you on grid based on best time. Great way to try and beat your PBs without hitting traffic

Let's just not get in the way of the their Porsche/BMW drivers when they lap the 86s :lol:

Krispeee 03-16-2016 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 2582769)
Yes, having the transponder will record your time. I will take your time from SpeedSF. Unless of course, you have your own personal Aim Solo (DL or not), I can take your time from that too.



Let's just not get in the way of the their Porsche/BMW drivers when they lap the 86s :lol:

Awesome. I don't have an AIM Solo, so SpeedSF transponder will be my official time keeper.

Looking forward to getting out there in April!

sw20kosh 03-16-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 2582769)
Let's just not get in the way of the their Porsche/BMW drivers when they lap the 86s :lol:

I don't know what you are talking about... :paddle::paddle::paddle:

MyRx 03-17-2016 04:59 PM

2nd post updated with GT Radial contingency program.

Also, check out https://www.86cup.us/ site for more detailed information/rules/mod list.

megamarines 03-17-2016 09:20 PM

Color me stupid, but what are the safety gear regulations of helmets and such for the 86 Cup? I need to buy a new one and was wondering which Snell and dot standards are desired.

MyRx 03-18-2016 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megamarines (Post 2586627)
Color me stupid, but what are the safety gear regulations of helmets and such for the 86 Cup? I need to buy a new one and was wondering which Snell and dot standards are desired.


For starters, any SA2010, SA2015, or DOT will work. Fitment will be the most important regardless who's rating you may follow. Any plans to take it serious, I would suggest investing in a SA2010 or SA2015 helmet (SA2005 expired and discountinued) just because other race clubs/orgs tech helmets and having an outdated or non-Snell could end your day before it begins.

http://winecountrymotorsports.com/ inside Sonoma Raceway has a large inventory of helmets to try on.

megamarines 03-18-2016 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 2586925)
For starters, any SA2010, SA2015, or DOT will work. Fitment will be the most important regardless who's rating you may follow. Any plans to take it serious, I would suggest investing in a SA2010 or SA2015 helmet (SA2005 expired and discountinued) just because other race clubs/orgs tech helmets and having an outdated or non-Snell could end your day before it begins.

http://winecountrymotorsports.com/ inside Sonoma Raceway has a large inventory of helmets to try on.


I assumed as much. My helmet that was 2010 rated was damaged when I moved, so I figured it was worth asking if 2015 was now mandatory. Thanks!

acx23 03-18-2016 08:33 PM

Like the 86cup website 👍

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 2586250)
2nd post updated with GT Radial contingency program.

Also, check out https://www.86cup.us/ site for more detailed information/rules/mod list.


GenRuleAThumb 03-19-2016 01:58 AM

Sonoma =D


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