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wise345 02-08-2016 01:35 PM

Why is the SBD kit so well priced?
 
I know SBD is pretty good quality stuff (basically GReddy correct?) so with this being the case why is it so much cheaper? The GReddy is $4500 while the SBD is $2999.

jawn 02-08-2016 01:40 PM

Get your popcorn ready.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68017

Freeman 02-08-2016 01:41 PM

No R&D costs=lower costs.

go_a_way1 02-08-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2539880)

:popcorn: My popcorn is always ready

MisterSheep 02-08-2016 01:49 PM

:popcorn:

Carlitoz3 02-08-2016 01:51 PM

:cheers:

sidesleeper 02-08-2016 02:09 PM

Trump will tell you why it's so well priced...

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chaoskaze 02-08-2016 02:11 PM

cuz china?




also another thing is that you are paying japanese premium price......for the same price u pay in japan, u get lots minor updates & more flexibility which you obviously don't get here, but different market different stroke.

DustinS 02-08-2016 02:21 PM

Technically it's Taiwan which is arguably a lot better than Cheap Chinese Parts. I would also venture to say if SBD kit was cheap China parts, there would be a ton more failures with the Kit itself. Most of the "JDM" parts are outsourced to Taiwan anyway.

sidesleeper 02-08-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2539911)
Technically it's Taiwan which is arguably a lot better than Cheap Chinese Parts. I would also venture to say if SBD kit was cheap China parts, there would be a ton more failures with the Kit itself. Most of the "JDM" parts are outsourced to Taiwan anyway.

Yeah, well... According to China, Taiwan is China and it's all China to Trump.

nickmerronesucks 02-08-2016 02:28 PM

Well For what its worth. some of my parts say greddy still and others are grinded flat right where the greddy logo is. So im gonna say the kits are either, Greddy kits that don't meet greddy standards and sent back, or greddy buys them from alibaba just like SBD does.

weederr33 02-08-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2539880)

Man that was a hardcore thread. Talk about cringe

PandaSPUR 02-08-2016 03:25 PM

Regardless of the origin and quality of parts, SBD is cheaper because they didnt have to do any R&D. Copying what another company does is a lot cheaper than doing your own research.

go_a_way1 02-08-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2540022)
Regardless of the origin and quality of parts, SBD is cheaper because they didnt have to do any R&D. Copying what another company does is a lot cheaper than doing your own research.

+1 to this all they have to do is go to the supplier that builds the greddy kit and buy the parts, put them in a box, profit.

Dream20b 02-08-2016 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wise345 (Post 2539876)
I know SBD is pretty good quality stuff (basically GReddy correct?) so with this being the case why is it so much cheaper? The GReddy is $4500 while the SBD is $2999.

Because china, Because No R&D, Because "not the same kit"

Dream20b 02-08-2016 03:39 PM

Plot twist: Greddy didn't do the R&D and SBD did, but Greddy uses quality parts.

Freeman 02-08-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream20b (Post 2540041)
Plot twist: Greddy didn't do the R&D and SBD did, but Greddy uses quality parts.


Illuminati confirmed

go_a_way1 02-08-2016 03:40 PM

http://img.memecdn.com/everyone-know..._o_2627961.jpg

continuecrushing 02-08-2016 04:05 PM

:popcorn:

NyC Zn6 02-08-2016 04:26 PM

Well must be a good kit if hundreds of 86 owners are running SBD kits.

Freeman 02-08-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2540120)
Well must be a good kit if hundreds of 86 owners are running SBD kits.


Yeah looks like Greddy designed it well

NyC Zn6 02-08-2016 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Freeman (Post 2540121)
Yeah looks like Greddy designed it well

yes they did....i even like the T620z but looks like you need a built motor as well

wise345 02-08-2016 05:31 PM

Well this could get controversial...

carczar87 02-08-2016 06:07 PM

Subbed for thread carnage...

:popcorn:

Yoda 02-08-2016 06:56 PM

Well you can't beat what you get for the price. No matter how they got it that low its still a bargain that much you have to give them as well as their customer support.

go_a_way1 02-08-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by carczar87 (Post 2540265)
Subbed for thread carnage...

:popcorn:

lets get the ball rolling lol!!
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61490794.jpg

MuseChaser 02-08-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2540022)
Regardless of the origin and quality of parts, SBD is cheaper because they didnt have to do any R&D. Copying what another company does is a lot cheaper than doing your own research.

Yep... just ask Behringer. Why develop your own products when you can copy Mackie? On the other hand... why in the world did they copy Mackie instead of Neumann, Schoeps, Allen and Heath, Manley, and the REALLY good stuff?

Ooopss.. this isn't the pro audio forum, is it. Sorry...

Barry

mrk1 02-08-2016 08:01 PM

From an SBD box, plenty of other similar grind marks on the kit.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...psbf6f4b79.jpg

raven1231 02-08-2016 08:16 PM

Yes zero research and development allows them to sell greddys kits for much cheaper. That's all there is to it. It's a great kit if you can deal with it being a stolen product/design.

wise345 02-08-2016 08:21 PM

I could care less if they didn't design it as long as it will be reliable

raven1231 02-08-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wise345 (Post 2540430)
I could care less if they didn't design it as long as it will be reliable

Well then get it

nickmerronesucks 02-08-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wise345 (Post 2540430)
I could care less if they didn't design it as long as it will be reliable

This...My kit hasn't let me down. My car has. (clutch, Axle). Any small issue I have ever had was resolved with in minutes of contacting SBD(which was either me being plain old stupid, or just something I needed a second brain for). customer service is amazing and Chris is still going out of his way to figure out ways to improve the turbo kit. Well it may not be designed by Speed by Design, They sure stand behind and are putting a lot of effort into making it the best bang for the buck kit.

For example the Original heat shield design kind of sucked. So chris found a reasonably priced blanket that worked well with the kit, Some of us had to pay for it, but it is now included with the kit. The blow off valve is a nice touch considering greddys kit does not come with a blow off valve and there is plenty of people that don't like that(I would rather not have one).

Also they supply pretapped oil pans for a very fair price. So you have your factory one incase you need to revert your car back to stock. Also with him pairing up with Shiv from OFT helped out a lot, Shiv made aftermarket intake pipe for the kit, which is a very nice touch, mine doesn't fit to great because I am using the factory crash beam but I prefer his intake design rather then the intake that comes with the kit.

If you have the money, buy this kit. An upgraded clutch, Pretapped pan, OFT, and a few other small things and have your self a great fun reliable car.

nickmerronesucks 02-08-2016 09:35 PM

but hey if you want your piping to say greddy you can always buy it right here.. Lol

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/AUTOF...e-046ae858a04b

wise345 02-08-2016 10:14 PM

So am I paying $1500 more for my piping to say GReddy...?

mrk1 02-08-2016 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wise345 (Post 2540541)
So am I paying $1500 more for my piping to say GReddy...?

Hear this a lot when people are try to justify buying the fake.

ZOMFGAARON 02-08-2016 10:22 PM

How many times will this thread appear?


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nickmerronesucks 02-08-2016 10:25 PM

Jesus act like you havent bought crisp rice before...instead of rice crispies..same deal..someone put the hard work in but your buyin the cheaper one cause it does the same thing

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mrk1 02-08-2016 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOMFGAARON (Post 2540549)
How many times will this thread appear?


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As long as the kit is for sale and the history is questionable

The Racers Line 02-09-2016 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nickmerronesucks (Post 2540512)
but hey if you want your piping to say greddy you can always buy it right here.. Lol

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/AUTOF...e-046ae858a04b

That website almost made me as sad as the entire tent at SEMA that was dedicated to Chinese knock-off parts...

killboy 02-09-2016 01:48 AM

I know it's easy for some to care less for these larger successful company's profit margins, but I'm betting they struggle more than most of us realize to innovate, and our community would be worse off without them. I'm not saying I've never bought a knock-off product, but if/when I did, I was not actively aware of it being a copy.

Over the years I've grown to realize that supporting knock-off companies discourages innovative companies from creating new products for us. Eventually some legit companies DO go out of business as a result, and we all suffer...even the copy cats.


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