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Savagez88 02-05-2016 04:08 PM

What if lexus got the 86/ subie made sti brz?
 
.....Instead of scion getting the frs..

Toyota would have gotten the base model, lexus gotten the premium. Then Subaru the base and sti model

Follow me on this, a year ago, lexus came out with an is250 f sport turbocharged, and is350 f sport awd.

Toyota paired with a company that is notorious for turbo and awd. Why the f*** didn't they do this to the 86? Ppl have been asking for more power since car came out 4 years ago!

Would sales have been better?

Is this possible now/ that scion is gone?

Did they already have plans of scrapping scion to begin with, if so why did they badge the 86 a scion in North America?

Can we make it happen?

Thoughts?

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go_a_way1 02-05-2016 04:16 PM

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MisterSheep 02-05-2016 04:16 PM

Wishfull thinking but there is a high chance that will not happen

Slammedsteve 02-05-2016 04:19 PM

It would hurt Lexus's reputation in the future. I say no.

Atticus808 02-05-2016 04:20 PM

they did make an 86

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...us_LFA_001.JPG

chaoskaze 02-05-2016 04:27 PM

:popcorn:

cdq85 02-05-2016 04:28 PM

well Subaru has already said they won't add power. why would they jeopardize sales on their wrx? you slap a turbo and awd into an 86 and you are also adding 10k+ to the sticker and then everyone bitches that it's too expensive...then since you are adding factory FI, much more R&D is needed to make sure this is something that isn't going to grenade in 50k miles and risk ruining their reputation. as for lexus picking it up, highly doubtful just because they wouldn't want a car that creeks and rattles all the time in their lineup. adding a motor won't make it a "lexus" in my opinion. the car is perfect for the money in my opinion. if you want it to be faster, drop 5-6k and slap in a SBD turbo/oil cooler/etc. and you've got a bargain for power to weight.








TL; DR keep dreaming

Teseo 02-05-2016 04:32 PM

Lexus, high price tag. And sti version looks rice.
What point you did not understood when toyota said"we want to produce affordable sport car"

Tectoniic 02-05-2016 04:33 PM

Why is this so hard for everyone to comprehend? The twins were designed to be a cheap fun to drive sports car. Lexus is not about "cheap" cars and IMHO the lexus bumper looks absolutely terrible on this body.

The main segment of people who actually bought this car have not been asking for more power. A lot of us would have liked it but most people bought the car knowing it would not have a lot of power or they could add it themselves down the road. The majority of people asking for more power in the stock car would not have bought it even if did have more power.

For the millionth time, best of luck to you finding a car that is rwd, unique chassis, LSD, turbo, meets EPA MPG requirements, and all under 30K new.

edit: ninja'd

theparagon 02-05-2016 04:49 PM

Went to a carshow with my girlfriend. We sat in a Lexus RC-F. She said it felt exactly like sitting in the FR-S, just fancier.

Of course the RC-F doesn't have anything to do with the FR-S but Lexus has a RWD sports coupe.

KR-S 02-05-2016 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
Toyota paired with a company that is notorious for turbo and awd. Why the f*** didn't they do this to the 86? Ppl have been asking for more power since car came out 4 years ago!

Because that's not what Toyota had in mind. Simple as that. Want turbo and AWD? Get a WRX/STI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
Would sales have been better?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
Is this possible now/ that scion is gone?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
Did they already have plans of scrapping scion to begin with, if so why did they badge the 86 a scion in North America?

It's business, who knows for sure?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
Can we make it happen?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
Thoughts?

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FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-05-2016 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537346)
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These threads are getting more ridiculous and stupid by the minute

Atticus808 02-05-2016 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theparagon (Post 2537436)
Went to a carshow with my girlfriend. We sat in a Lexus RC-F. She said it felt exactly like sitting in the FR-S, just fancier.

Of course the RC-F doesn't have anything to do with the FR-S but Lexus has a RWD sports coupe.

wtf?

i sat in the RC and it's pretty nice. the only thing that was the same is that I was sitting.....

ConceptX 02-05-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 2537499)
wtf?

i sat in the RC and it's pretty nice. the only thing that was the same is that I was sitting.....

Don't forget about the R and the F! :bellyroll:

Cole 02-05-2016 05:41 PM

Are threads like this indicative of the average intelligence of someone who owns a twin? I want out of this platform.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-05-2016 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2537542)
Are threads like this indicative of the average intelligence of someone who owns a twin? I want out of this platform.

Probably that or just newer owners, because OP just joined the forum and has the new 16 and also hasn't fully grasped the search concept yet.

NemesisPrime909 02-05-2016 05:54 PM

I love how people are in such denial about power.

it's not going to happen

at the very most we'll probably get 20-40 more HP

Cole 02-05-2016 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 2537567)
I love how people are in such denial about power.

it's not going to happen

at the very most we'll probably get 20-40 more HP

Or none. That's the most likely thing.

go_a_way1 02-05-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2537570)
Or none. That's the most likely thing.

^ This I don't get why people think they are going to give the FRS more power. I don't see the point in going through more R&D and using higher quality parts (bring costs up) to add extra power to a sports car in such a niche market that is slowly losing sales. Just my 2 cents.

Sideways 02-05-2016 05:59 PM

I like twins the way it is. Its priced right and is a fun to drive and I highly doubt lexus adding this platform into thr lineup. If I want tons of power and got money to burn, I would have gotten gt350r or something else.

People are already crashing these car even with 200hp motor. Just image how many more crashes will happen if high powered version of these car are released and all these wannabe showoff kids gets there hands on it who doesn't know how to drive. The twins are already classified as high premium slot by insurance companies due to soo many people crashing it.

on a side note: this reminds me of the wannabe drift kid at my job with the mustang who crashed his ride on his way home last week trying to be cool and totaled the car....lol...kids!!!

Mim 02-05-2016 06:05 PM

The best way I can describe the twins in this context is they are the anti Lexus. You probably couldn't make them further from being a Lexus in every way even if you tried.

Much like the Bugatti Veyron it would be an exercise to prove that it could be done as apposed to whether it made any financial sense to do so. Amusingly enough Lexus already did it with the LFA anyway.

Leonardo 02-05-2016 06:07 PM

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go_a_way1 02-05-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 2537590)

LOL you and I can be friends now that you have posted so many memes today

go_a_way1 02-05-2016 06:13 PM

Can't remember if I posted a meme about this so here is one anyways

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Leonardo 02-05-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2537597)
LOL you and I can be friends now that you have posted so many memes today

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Savagez88 02-05-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2537602)
Can't remember if I posted a meme about this so here is one anyways

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U Didn't... that I remember lol

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go_a_way1 02-05-2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 2537603)

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go_a_way1 02-05-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537605)
U Didn't... that I remember lol

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LOL good, memes are kinda me thing I need to post them to convey how I feel hahaha!

Savagez88 02-05-2016 06:26 PM

Fave meme of the thred tho!

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 2537590)

Fave of the day tho!! @go_a_way
Quote:

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2537608)
LOL good, memes are kinda me thing I need to post them to convey how I feel hahaha!


go_a_way1 02-05-2016 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagez88 (Post 2537627)
Fave meme of the thred tho!


Fave of the day tho!! @go_a_way

you forgot the 1 ..... :mad0259:

Talus1 02-05-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mim (Post 2537584)
they are the anti Lexus...

*Snort!* Well said.

Savagez88 02-05-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2537664)
you forgot the 1 ..... :mad0259:

Shit!! My bad!!

RichardsFRS 02-05-2016 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 2537567)
I love how people are in such denial about power.

it's not going to happen

at the very most we'll probably get 20-40 more HP

40hp would be pretty substantial.

DarkPhoenix 02-05-2016 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2537556)
Probably that or just newer owners, because OP just joined the forum and has the new 16 and also hasn't fully grasped the search concept yet.

Hey now - don't go insulting all us forum newbies like that. :P

chaoskaze 02-05-2016 07:33 PM

Guys Stop saying 86 is noisy


There is one that isn't ..........Style cB in japan for 42K Cold hard cash >__>

http://toyota.jp/86/grade/special/

Savagez88 02-05-2016 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 2537750)
Guys Stop saying 86 is noisy


There is one that isn't ..........Style cB in japan for 42K Cold hard cash >__>

http://toyota.jp/86/grade/special/

Aston Martin!!?!?!??!?!

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FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-05-2016 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix (Post 2537745)
Hey now - don't go insulting all us forum newbies like that. :P

My bad

soulreapersteve 02-05-2016 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix (Post 2537745)
Hey now - don't go insulting all us forum newbies like that. :P

It's ok, you have a Lava.

Where was I going with this?


GO TEAM LAVA!

DarkPhoenix 02-05-2016 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve (Post 2537779)
It's ok, you have a Lava.

Where was I going with this?


GO TEAM LAVA!

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Tcoat 02-05-2016 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2537492)
These threads are getting more ridiculous and stupid by the minute

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2537542)
Are threads like this indicative of the average intelligence of someone who owns a twin? I want out of this platform.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2537556)
Probably that or just newer owners, because OP just joined the forum and has the new 16 and also hasn't fully grasped the search concept yet.

SOON


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