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correct me if I am wrong but I am sure they use a proper gasket not silicon like that. I am on the dealers side here. + you should have noticed fluid all over your driveway if it leaked enough to cause damage. Sorry man, looks like its time to get a 4.67 FD hahaha!

It is fairly easy to modify a car, then part it out return it back to stock, then sell it/trade it in.

The dealer who you bought it from may have had no idea the diff was ever modified.

It's an unfortunate situation, but the dealers don't seem to be at fault.

I hate to hear this is happening to you and I hope for the best :thumbsup:

Hello @winsanity and welcome to posting to the forum ....... :clap:

Too bad your first post had to be bad news......:(

Since you bought the car used and any warranty work has been declined by the dealer and the manufacturer, I'm ah feared you are on your own.

I would suggest that you take it to a reputable auto shop and have the differential opened up and examined.

(oh, BTW, does it have any fluid left in it .. ??)

The redneck solution would be to clean all the grease/oil off the differential and surrounding area, tighten all the bolts/nuts around the casing, fill it with fluid, drive it for a while then check for leaks.

If it still leaks or still makes noise, you are most likely looking at buying a new differential (worst case).

I hope you get it fixed. Keep us posted.


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That sucks. But I agree with the others. Chances are the original owner screwed it up. The dealer you bought it from should have noticed the leak IF they did any kind of inspection. Regardless, it's on you at this point. I don't see how this is Subaru's fault. Bummer.
Lesson learned: have a pre-purchase inspection done by an independent specialist before ever buying a used car.

Sounds like dealer screwed you.... you can try arguing with them....:iono:

But I would say it's time for 4.4 or 4.7 final drive swap...:wub: You will smell @ the new found power. (or 5.1 if you don't drive on highway..xD)

I am planning on going 4.88 and if I didn't need a useable core he could have had mine lol. I am tempted to go with a 5.1 but I do driver on the highway a bit hahaha. Choices :/

This guy has a diff for sale for $330

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100964

I think his price might be CAD so thats like $200 lol

I forgot they use Monopoly money up there eh

Lol that and because oil is so low now we compare things to the price of a barrel of mapple syrup. Good news is the bacon economy is still alright

Didn't the used care dealer give you at least a 6 month warrantee? If not, I can understand why Subaru will not cover it since it looks like it was tampered with.

Main suspicious thing is that car never was serviced by Subaru dealer. It's wise to avoid used cars without reliable service history.


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Perfect excuse to go for an aftermarket LSD.



but in all honesty, thats a shitty story. Im sorry OP.

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This really sucks. Hopefully you can get it sorted out soon. You might have to fork the repair bill yourself, so start looking for used diff and find someone good to swap it out.

Don't ever be surprised a dealer doesn't offer a "goodwill gesture." It's not their fault and no one should ever expect them to pay for someone else's mistake.
If you got an inspection it could have been missed. But if it was done by someone that was good chances are they would have caught it.
Either way, good luck.

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my suggestion is to take a car to different dealership and explain your situation and see what they say. you got nothing to lose but time.
also, car doesnt have to be serviced only by Subaru dealership. as long as it has history of maintenance it's fine. all dealership will play like that though..
I would take it to local performance shop and do it right and upgrade parts if necessary after you get another negative response at different dealership.

Did you get a carfax before buying. Thats the first thing I look over top to bottom when buying a car. Mine was only serviced at Toyota, at regular intervals and only had a trim piece pop up as being repaired.

If I see a car had never been to its own dealership for repairs or maint. I won't budge on it

Sorry to hear about your troubles OP. This is one of the reasons I try to be super careful when buying used and usually get PPI's done. At least it's just a rear diff and gives you an excuse to upgrade!

Hello Win and welcome.
I am afraid I have some bad news on a few fronts as far as your situation goes.


There are many modded cars on here I would buy in a second. Unfortunately there are many, many more I would not pay a dollar for. Some cut corners or screw things up through lack of money to do it right or just plain inexperience. Your car may be stock now but god only knows what was done to it before it was put back that way. The dealer would never know what the prior owner did so could not tell you if they wanted to. Judging by the slap dash use of sealant instead of the proper gasket on that diff you may just be finding the first of the issues.


You bought it used but did you buy it Certified Used? I am not referring to the safety certification that you must have but was it a Dealer Certified used car? The terms are confusing because the same word is used for both but the meaning is radically different.
A safety certified car means all the safety functions are there and work. The mechanicals such as the engine and drive train are not part of the safety systems and therefore not subject to inspection. A Certified Used car would have been inspected for this and many other things. If not a Certified the odds of the dealer doing anything are remote. They are in no way liable for this.


On the bright side it is a relatively easy and cheap thing to replace.


Sorry to be a downer but this is the way I see your situation!

Canada no Carfax

Last I checked Toronto was in Canada so still $330. Irrelevant now anyway since the for sale thread is now deleted.

WHA! NO CAR FOX!? That's a shame cus it keeps you from buying into a clunker

We have a government system that if you are selling a used car privately yu have to get a report from them but it does not have such things as service or other info. Pretty much just says if in a serious accident and that there is no lien on it. Dealers to not have to provide that report.

Was a little confused by your original post: "The car was purchased from a Subaru dealership but I purchased it from a used car dealer."

Should that have been NOT purchased from a Subaru dealer?

I'm more surprised you didn't catch this sooner.

My rear diff (OS Giken LSD w/ Greddy rear cover) had a tiny oil leak from the axles because they weren't seated properly. My rear bumper was covered in oil within an hour of it happening...

-alex

He missed a word.

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Did the used car dealer sell it to you as "including the manufacturer warranty"? In the US they will have it listed on the window sticker at a lot of dealers. I would go through your paperwork from the used car dealer. I would imagine if they advertised it as including the warranty you might be able to keep pushing the used car dealer to cover it.

They definitely advertised it as still having balance of factory warranty but it wasn't a "certified" pre-owned vehicle.

It doesn't matter if it still has a factory warranty. Someone else messed it up. That isn't covered.

"There's some goodies that I found out about this car! I think the car may have been tracked by the previous owner!"

Wow. The moment I read your first post, I totally thought someone covered stuff up. I totally feel for you in this situation and its a shame people flip stuff like this to scew over the next person, especially if you're an enthusiast, track the car and then try to pass it off as "stock". Fuck that. Just sell it as what it is, assuming you didnt mess up, if you did, pay to fix it and let it go. I guess it takes money, and people just skimp on things.
One thing that I think would be a red flag, is that you picked this up from a "used car dealer", not saying all of them are bad, I had some dealings previously, but from my impression, usually brand dealers keep the good examples for their used lot, while they dump liability at the auction. Not saying they got this car at an auction, maybe the owner traded it in to the used car lot? I just think for these cars, you got to really know what you're getting into. All the people on the forum preach careful picking and knowing history, sometimes you think, yea that's probably overkill or won't happen to me, if it looks stock, its probably fine. Damn...

Looks like you are doing some digging and that's good, I wouldn't have patience and time to sort through such a situation, like others said, find a reputable performance shop around GTA and have them fix it, unless it gets covered by someone you're dealing with....Never had to replace the diff, but sounds like its not as disastrous as engine/tranny replacement cost.
Hopefully that's the last major thing you'll need to worry about on this car, who knows what pops up next, do you think its flashed with stock tune, haha?

Damn that sucks sounds like a uphill battle with the used dealer lot tho. You would have to prove that they had prior knowledge that the car was tracked and modified when they purchased it from the first owner. Cause then they would know they couldn't sell that car with a manufacturer warranty. Seems like your best chance at that would be finding the previous owner.

Yes, I understand that.
But if it's messed up because of the previous owner's negligence, and the car is advertised as having remainder of full factory warranty, then would that not be false advertising?

I don't know what you're trying to get at. I've already said it's not Subaru's fault for not covering this under warranty.

It still does have its full factory warranty, even on the the diff, but factory warranty only covers a manufactures defect, and that seal was not from the manufacturer so they can not warranty it sadly. Any damaged caused by running it dry is also not a manufacture defect therefore not warranty. When it was sold with full factory warranty that was still in effect until the non-factory seal failed and caused other damages.

I think you need to ignore most of the advice in this thread except for the Canadians, because US law doesn't apply to your situation. I'm not Canadian, so that includes me.

That said, in most states in the US we have certain implied warranties that come with the car that a car dealer can't just wipe away by putting "As Is" on the window. If a dealer here sells you a used car that they represent as being completely stock and never modified, and it turns out to be misrepresented, there might be some remedies available depending on how long ago you bought it.

I have no idea if Canada has the same type of implied warranties, so you might consider doing some research on that subject or simply calling a lawyer. It's usually easier to get a merchant to cooperate if you already know what they're required to do by law and what they aren't. Maybe you're shit outta luck, but I wouldn't believe it just because some Amurkin says so on a message board.