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UtahSleeper 02-03-2016 02:51 AM

Well, this is sad.......
 
http://www.motortrend.com/news/break...brand-the-axe/

Apparently, Scion will be gone soon.

nova.86 02-03-2016 03:00 AM

Rest In Pepperonis.

megamarines 02-03-2016 03:05 AM

Wanna bet the FRS will become the GT86 again for the American market?

airjonny 02-03-2016 03:06 AM

Hopefully they finally bring over the gt86 then.

soulreapersteve 02-03-2016 03:08 AM

I should put the Scion badges back on...

fitcious 02-03-2016 03:08 AM

Well, this is sad.......
 
Scion!

PresiO. 02-03-2016 03:09 AM

Scion Gone?
 
So supposedly scion is closing up shop? what does this mean for the future for our cars?

Would value for the frs go up since it was only produced for about four years?

Are we going to be ultra rare cars now?

DAEMANO 02-03-2016 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PresiO. (Post 2532655)
So supposedly scion is closing up shop? what does this mean for the future for our cars?

Would value for the frs go up since it was only produced for about four years?

Are we going to be ultra rare cars now?

Link or GTFO

DSOmegaX 02-03-2016 03:12 AM

Not sad. Scion was a shit brand from the beginning lol

megamarines 02-03-2016 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2532659)
Link or GTFO

Calm your tits

http://www.motortrend.com/news/break...brand-the-axe/

YamahaR86 02-03-2016 03:16 AM

Just read it as well. Sales for the frs were down 25% in 2015 and scion only sold a few cars.

PresiO. 02-03-2016 03:16 AM

you got my back @megamarines

Baymax86 02-03-2016 03:16 AM

Very interesting to think of the future of our FR-S now. Will it become a Toyota? Disappear? Will the Scion version be rare and desirable in 20 years or long and forgotten as everyone has the Toyota.

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PresiO. 02-03-2016 03:21 AM

In a way I'm sad but, i kinda am happy that maybe the scion version will be rare or something and maybe in years the scion version will be the more sought after version of this car. Maybe just maybe?

Celica00 02-03-2016 03:24 AM

All the sudden the Scion badges on the FRS might be highly coveted instead of reviled... Especially if they just start calling it the Toyota FRS

megamarines 02-03-2016 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2532674)
All the sudden the Scion badges on the FRS might be highly coveted instead of reviled... Especially if they just start calling it the Toyota FRS

lol if I still have my car in ten years I'll probably put my spare scion badges on. If it goes the way of Datsun, that is(yes I know how their history actually went lol).

FR-Sky 02-03-2016 03:27 AM

2016 is the last year of scion?

weederr33 02-03-2016 03:28 AM

It's about damn time.

l0aded 02-03-2016 03:28 AM

Maybe they will release a 2nd gen of our cars under Toyota 86?

FR-Sky 02-03-2016 03:29 AM

I am glad I got the 10 series....I am part of the history...

Sosa 02-03-2016 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PresiO. (Post 2532673)
In a way I'm sad but, i kinda am happy

I was shocked seeing this on my local FB page! Like you I was saddened at first, then excited to be in the (potential) rare category...

As for now: I'll wait for something official :-)

Celica00 02-03-2016 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 2532678)
Maybe they will release a 2nd gen of our cars under Toyota 86?



I wonder if it'll undergo quite moderate design changes and be called a new name to 'trick' people into thinking it's a new car under the Toyota brand to boost sales.


"The all-new 2018 Toyota SRF"

Mim 02-03-2016 03:42 AM

From what I read over the years I think most of the US crowd will be happy to finally get a Toyota 86. Hope the Scion employees are cared after and migrated over to the Toyota family with minimal fuss.

Knshro13 02-03-2016 03:45 AM

It's not that simple.
With the move and internal re-org, employees must "re-apply" for a position at Toyota.

But they are given an incentive if they choose to leave the company. That goes for the entire TMS corporation as they prepare the transition to Texas.

It's gonna be a few rough years for Toyota internally. We speculate 2020 to be the year when everything finally settles in.

STZ 02-03-2016 04:08 AM

Yes please.

If the GT86 comes to Canada I'm not even going to wait anymore. The GT86 literally takes all the features and stuff I like from the FR-S and combines it with what I like from the BRZ.

xuimod 02-03-2016 04:12 AM

That sucks, kind of sad. Hope the FRS continues as the GT86 in the US. And really hope there's a 2nd gen GT86 in the US.

Alltezza 02-03-2016 04:43 AM

GT86 lets go lol give us those sexy ass headlights in the US.
@xuimod I'm sure they'll either make it the Toyota FRS or GT86. The FRS sold pretty damn good, for their specific target market. And it wouldn't be the same to not have our twins.

Alltezza 02-03-2016 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX (Post 2532661)
Not sad. Scion was a shit brand from the beginning lol

LOL I'm glad I wasn't the only one that felt the same way, not only does the emblems and logo look ugly af. Their target market is just not what I wanted to be a part of, and the FRS is too damn good to even be branded/tainted as a scion.

Edit: So after all the excitement now, I started to look around Google for the sales figures. I didn't find much but apparently our cars aren't selling very well or as well as I thought they were. I find it hard to believe since I have friends in CA saying they see FRS' and BRZs left and right, and I heard it's sold AMAZINGLY in Australia and other parts of the world. But not here in the USA. I don't know exact sales figures, but I hope that with the GT86 or FRS becoming a Toyota brand here in the USA that FRS' will start selling a lot more. I'm sure one of the factors in the case of the FRS was that it simply was a scion. Also potential customers will see the Toyota brand and think of quality and reliability now instead of it just being a scion, kind of like the Civic Si is for Honda, we see the Honda brand and know that it's immediately reliable and has quality to it.

I hope our 86s will sell much better and we will see a 2nd generation 86.

OICU812 02-03-2016 05:24 AM

Very unlikely that you'll see a GT-86 likely they're just "done". Parts get pricey while the value of the car crashes. Sad deal really. We shall see..

JD001 02-03-2016 05:34 AM



Must be a big deal as we 3 threads started on this very subject..

Tcoat 02-03-2016 06:44 AM

The reality of this will be seen today if there is one accurate word in the articles.


The Car Buzzard clickbait site reporter that is quoted as the source must have some strong pull.


"Word on the street is that tomorrow morning, the Scion division of Toyota will cease to exist. At a top-secret meeting this afternoon, employees were told that the division, which started with the xA and xB in 2002 as 2003 models, wouldn’t see it’s 14th anniversary."

Tcoat 02-03-2016 06:45 AM

The reality of this will be seen today if there is one accurate word in the articles.


The Car Buzzard clickbait site reporter that is quoted as the source must have some strong pull.


"Word on the street is that tomorrow morning, the Scion division of Toyota will cease to exist. At a top-secret meeting this afternoon, employees were told that the division, which started with the xA and xB in 2002 as 2003 models, wouldn’t see it’s 14th anniversary."

Hotrodheart 02-03-2016 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2532733)
The reality of this will be seen today if there is one accurate word in the articles.


The Car Buzzard clickbait site reporter that is quoted as the source must have some strong pull.


"Word on the street is that tomorrow morning, the Scion division of Toyota will cease to exist. At a top-secret meeting this afternoon, employees were told that the division, which started with the xA and xB in 2002 as 2003 models, wouldn’t see it’s 14th anniversary."

Blame Canada.
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j0sch 02-03-2016 07:27 AM

Should this be true, how would it affect vehicles currently on order?

mdm 02-03-2016 07:37 AM

Slightly off topic:

"The brand’s no-haggle pricing was another innovative tactic designed to attract new buyers that might otherwise be intimidated by the car buying process. "

Did it actually work this way? Was buying a new Scion any different from buying any other new cars (apart from fewer trim level/equipment options)?

RichardsFRS 02-03-2016 08:08 AM

Well guess its time to get toyota badges
This would be my 9th year in a scion. I'm loyal to t he brand because my XB such a good car and went and went till she couldn't go no more, almost getting 200k

raven1231 02-03-2016 08:11 AM

Few things:

1) There is no actual credible source for any of this.
2) "IF" Scion does get axed it doesn't mean the frs will also, it is still being made elsewhere as the 86 and will likely carry over.
3) In what world does an item that is selling so poorly that it gets axed mean that it will become ultra valuable and extremely coveted? Yes it's possible value will go up but it's also possible it will go the way of the numerous other cars that get axed due to poor sales, and go down in value even further (or stay unchanged).

RichardsFRS 02-03-2016 08:14 AM

Maybe we should all just park our cars now and cover them up. In ten years they'll sell at the Barret for ONE MILLION dollars!

RichardsFRS 02-03-2016 08:17 AM

Will we still be able to go to Toyota for service? I'm under extended warranty but I prefer Toyota/Scion to work on my car over someone else

mdm 02-03-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS (Post 2532762)
Will we still be able to go to Toyota for service?


Why not? You can go to Toyota now, at least in my area they are no separate Scion dealerships, only Toyota or Toyota/Scion.


Also, the Scion website has always said "Serviceable at any Scion or Toyota dealer"


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