Check engine light just came on after 2k miles.
 

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(Day 1)Had just gotten off the freeway and pulled into my bank. Right as I pulled into the parking space, I noticed a slight dip in the RPMS that caused the car to shake violently for a few seconds which stopped. When I went I to pull the parking break I noticed the engine light and the Slip Light was on had turned on. Shut the car off and ran into the bank, started the car again. Lights were still on, but the car seem to run ok, but I'm taking it in first thing in the morning. Has anyone else had this issue?

Update 2:(Day 2) Just finished dropping the car if with the service department where I bought her. I guess since the car is so new they have to pull the codes and report it back to corporate. Then corporate will tell them what to do. I'm waiting to find what they say. I'm hoping it's something as simple as a sensor issue.

Update 3: (Day 2)The anticipation of finding out what was wrong with my car was killing me so I walked into the service bay to find out what was going on. Walked up on 5 tech's standing around my car, which in my experience isn't a good sign. In talking with the tech they said that the code they pulled off was related to a crank shaft position sensor error. They all seemed to agree that they didn't think that's what the issue is. Could be the sensor or an issue with the ECU. Leaving her here so they can continue troubleshooting the issue. they said the demo car they have ran into the same issue and another scion dealership in the area had a FRS which had the same issue as well which they are going to cross reference. I'll update this thread when I get more info

Update 4: (Day 2)So just got a call from my service rep. He said that they narrowed it down to a few parts, and ran down a list of parts that that could be causing the issue. Went on to say that they need to source parts for my car since they don't have any parts available yada yada tada... Basically giving me the run around any time i asked for specifics. Botton line is that they are going to need to keep my car for a MOTHER F!@#ing week while they continue working on it...

Update 5: (Day 3) Just got a call from my Service Rep. First off he said that he called their headquarters and got me approved to upgrade my loaner car sine the FR-S is so new. Stuck at work, so that'll have to wait till tomorrow. HE said they have a Toyota Rep on site that is overseeing the work as well, and the SR ensured that they we're doing everything they could to get my FR-S back to me. Went on to tell me that they won't be able to get parts till Mon at the earliest. I then asked if he could provide me with the codes they were pulling off my car. the SR said that there are some standard codes that comes up but the one that the Toyota Rep was interested in was the code that they kept pulling off, evening after clearing in out.
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Update 6: (7-2-12) Service Rep just called me to give me an update. Reaffirmed that Toyota Rep is onsite overseeing everything. Good to know that corporate is so hands on with these early issues. They are basically replacing everything that relates to the error code. So that includes new cam gears, sensors, valves, solenoids, and new ECU. If everything goes as expected my car will be ready by tomorrow afternoon. Toyota is going to keep all the parts and inspect them all to see if they can determine the issue, which isn't so reaffirming.


Blog post regarding this whole ordeal.
http://downrightfrs.blogspot.com/201...ine-light.html

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Scary .. I'll have to keep the miles low I guess .. so much for breaking it in quickly.

check fuses !

Try tightening your gas cap. :iono:

Well from seeing your avg mpg... Either you running the car hard and it's low or something is up with your fuel map... Could be a fried o2 sensor

He might only do city driving.

Dreading my 20+ miles drive home. Gas cap was screwed on tightly. But that wouldn't explain the ABS lights Fuse box smelt suspect, but with no access to tools it's hard to say.

Yep. LA traffic sucks.

I can't say I drive it light as possible but I do drive a lot of city unfortunately ...
I don't think that my driving should damage the engine EVER.
This engine is marked to hit +7k RPM meaning 4k should be cake walk!

i would take it in this wknd right away - maybe its something simple or loose... 2k almost cant beleive it..

Typically (not always) that a solid CEL is emissions related. For me it works like this: If it's not flashing, it's not critical. If it's flashing STOP!

But seriously, after only 2k miles? Please let us know what the OBD2 scanner says.

If it's not a simple fuse, your ABS module may be fried (defective). I've seen a few cars (typically Fords and Buicks) with the ABS light on and had to do with electronics.

You don't need tools to get into the fuse box.

I get the same mileage. I'm not driving hard, nor do i baby it either.

Something i noticed was when you enter the FRS forum, the first thing you see is at least 3 threads about car problems. When you go to the BRZ forum, this problem is nearly non-existent.

Pull the code, give us the code, then make a diagnostic

Maybe because the ratio of FRS to BRZ is somewhere around 3:1 right now? :D

Larger sample size? ;)

My CEL came on at about 300 miles. The code I got was "loss of communication between the ECU and the display," probably caused by my using a poorly-shielded OBD2 reader next to a high-voltage power line.

there is a small sensor on each wheel for the ABS. it may have fallen off? Not sure how much you know about this type of thing but its a quick visual check.

...At these times I'm glad I spent $50 years ago to buy a scantool.

Just finished dropping the car if with the service department where I bought her. I guess since the car is so new they have to pull the codes and report it back to corporate. Then corporate will tell them what to do. I'm waiting to find what they say. I'm hoping it's something as simple as a sensor issue.

I am sorta happy to see we have such dedicated members to report problems. The quicker we identify these issues, we will less likely to have to pay for it when the warranty is over.

The anticipation of finding out what was wrong with my car was killing me so I walked into the service bay to find out what was going on. Walked up on 5 tech's standing around my car, which in my experience isn't a good sign. In talking with the tech they said that the code they pulled off was related to a crank shaft position sensor error. They all seemed to agree that they didn't think that's what the issue is. Could be the sensor or an issue with the ECU. Leaving her here so they can continue troubleshooting the issue. they said the demo car they have ran into the same issue and another scion dealership in the area had a FRS which had the same issue as well which they are going to cross reference. I'll update this thread when I get more info

I've been reading about mostly FR-S related issues but issues that were seen on previous Subaru models; condensation, vibration in the vents etc :iono:


Wow, that sucks! Keep us posted on what the issue actually is!

This is starting to sound like what happened to whiteout and Stu....:(

This.


I hope "corporate" has a damn good answer!

The crank shaft position sensor sounds like the same issue some of the others are also having with the idle issue. Have you happened to notice any strange idle dip? Does your idle ever randomly drop below 400rpm? Would love to know if this is all related to this little sensor, or even the crank shaft itself.

Yea! Right before the EC light came on, the car rpms dipped for a few seconds causing the car to shake. Was the first and only time it happened though. Feels good knowing there is such a supportive community growing around such a new car that can offer great feedback. :thanks:

I smell tsb coming soon?

if this continues, its gonna hurt both toyota and subaru real bad.

Nah. This happens a lot on 1st year cars.

If engines start blowing up and/or people get hurt from a problem, then it's time to complain.

So instead of WPP (White People Problems, you have First Year Problems. FYP.)

Dealerships are always so quick to say that the ECU must be defective. I've NEVER seen a car with a bad ECU. They don't just fail but I know so many people who in the process of trying to diagnose a problem have had the dealership replace the ECU. It's just the answer that dumb service techs like to give.

that messed up.:thumbdown:

AGREED. The only time I've seen a bad ECU was on a 12+ year old Dodge Stratus. However, I've heard tons of people having their ECUs replaced and the problem persist (not in the FRS/BRZ, other vehicles).

The crankshaft position sensor would definitely be causing issues like this with rough idle and potential stalls. The sensor must be just a little off or something because with a real bad sensor you'd get problems starting and misfire codes (and noticeable problems accelerating). Then again, this is a brand new car so maybe a bad batch of parts from OEM? However, why the ABS light stays illuminated is also interesting. Those are pretty unrelated!

I figured the car would have at least one FYP, something minor hopefully. This isn't too bad, the 06 Si had tranny problems and I am glad ours does not (*knock on wood*).

Actually after looking over the manual again, its the Slip indicator light that is stuck on. The same light that comes on when your TS and SC kicks in.

In the manual in the fine print reads:
If indicator does not turn off within a few seconds of starting engine, there may be a
malfunction. Have vehicle inspected by your Scion or Toyota dealer.

Im going to update my OP.

Oh, that is interesting. Wonder if that's a code for particular engine issues, doubt your diff is broken!

Maybe try turning the TC/SC off and on again? Just outa curiousity, still need to have it checked out though...

This all sounds very related to the idle issue some of us are having that may have to do with that sensor. Some others have also reported misfires, rough idle, ect.

The more I hear about it, the more it's narrowing down to the same problem.

This is true...probably because all the BRZ threads are along the lines of "Why the hell don't I have my BRZ yet?" :bellyroll: