Rust!!!
 

March 2016 Evo magazine has published a buying guide for the twins. It covers the usual but shock horror it talks about rusting quarter-light pillars on both front windows. I have not seen any threads talking about rust, is this real?

Oh noes!!

*runs outside and checks car*
*stops and realizes that MisterSheep lives in California and doesn't have to worry about such thing*

Lets ask @go_a_way1 he lives in Canada.

LMAO I guess since you posted so do I.

I live in canada with salty roads, rust free 3 winters so far :iono:

Yes it is real and no it is not near as bad as it sounds. There are a couple of threads on it. I will see if I can find them.
Like so many issues it seemed to be restricted to some of the very early 13s.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63579

Phew!!! I was already doing man maths to swap it for a dare I say it.. . M2..

Keep the 86. A little bit of rust shouldnt scare you off. Especially when the first model was released maybe 3-4 years ago.

Nah you should be good. Can't find the other thread but if I recall it is one of those issues that you either get quickly or not at all.

The good thing about the rust in that spot, if it happens, you can actually swap out the part. If you had it elsewhere on a body, like rear fenders, you'd be in for a world of pain, grinding and re-painting.

So far after one winter of salt piles and a wet summer I have no rust other than bolts and fasteners that are not treated and you expect to rust. There is even a big rock chip on my front fender that I purposefully left untouched just to see that is still rust free. I am very optimistic at this point.

.....Tcoat checks later today........:eyebulge:

OP, I wouldn't worry about it .... if I recall proper, it was no more than a bit of "discoloration" at the base of the window strip.

Easily taken care of with a toothbrush and a bit of rubbing compound.



humfrz

Ummmm not exactly.
It does however seem to be very, very rare and restricted to a certain run of cars.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=7692

OK, OK ...... a brass brush, a strip of fine grained sandpaper and some touch up paint ....... ;)



humfrz

That's ugly. As stated above though, if it happens, the part can be easily swapped out. My car is an early production (April 2012) vehicle, and it is on it's 4th salty Southern Ontario winter...I don't have that problem.

My BRZ was assembled June 2012 which makes it an early model and has no such rust despite 3 years of daily driving on salted and sanded roads.

Edit: I will also note that it has never been rust proofed.

Wish I could find the other thread on the subject but can't. The ones with the issue seemed to be a very closely grouped batch based upon VINs. All were fixed under warranty with no questions asked which usually means there was a know issue even if no TSB is issued. It was suspected (as also said in the linked thread) that the trim may have been too ridged and wore the paint causing the issue. Even the other thread only had 8 or so cars so not exactly a rampant issue no matter how you look at it. All had done it within a year so if still OK then probably not going to be a problem.
I recall it so well because being an Ontarioite the minute I see the word "rust" all sorts of alarm bells go off and I start digging for info. I have had 6 or 7 year old cars with no floor left so I panic a bit at the thought.

I seem to remember a thread or two as well. It was the first thing that came to mind when reading this one.

yeah this was found in the early models and then it was taken care of quickly under warranty and looks to have been quickly taken care of by Toyobaru factorys

go take a gander but its probably not even there

It's a shame that the "specialists" advising the magazines are not feeding them the correct info.. On a positive note residual values are strong in the UK.

going to have to check my car for this when she comes outta storage....

It took a while but i fought back and fourth with the dealer ship. Got my windows replaced(they are attached). I couldn't get them to retint that window but i got the windows..guy was trying to tell me it wasn't covered. and subarus been doing this for years and i said clearly the design sucks and he said no no it doesnt.

Also i have a late 2014 model if that helps.

I've got 2013 and had this problem, service manager thought it looked fine with touche up paint over the rust told them it looked ugly as f**k and they replaced once the parts came in after a month

So it obviously can still pop up outside the 13s then. Not sure I have seen many others beyond those first ones though. Was yours also right at the trim or some other place?

I did the same.. Got too lazy to fill in with touchup paint so left it alone.

Really surprised that no rust is occurring :D

I currently have the same rust in a late model 2014. Went to the dealer and they ordered the part to replace it no questions asked. I just haven't gone back to get it done even tho that was a 6 months ago...

My car goes back to the dealer once a year for its service and I think they carry out a body inspection so any paint issues that may lead to the dreaded rust attack should be picked up!

HMMMM so maybe we have a second set of issues developing with late 14s? Of course two guys is not enough to call a pattern yet but it can indicate the start of a trend.
Checked my early 14 and all is still good. I will be watching more closely again though.

Mine was at the bottom on both sides like pictured earlier in this thread. The service manager had to have someone else come out to look at it because he had never heard of the issue. I also was there to get the dash and steering wheel replaced. Which now there is a funny rattling from my dash that im gonna have to dig into to look for one of these days..

The same magazine article also mentioned potential rattles from the dashboard. We are doomed!! Only 4 years into the model run! Don't wish to stereotype but I thought the Japanese car manufacturers were top of their game.

Actually these articles can take a very small sample size and make it sound like all of the vehicles. The fact that we are only into the fourth year of the model also actually works against it not for it. It is a known fact that the first 1 or 2 years of any car produced can have bugs. This car is no different and there were several relatively small things that pooped up at first but seem to have completely disappeared. Since most of the data that they would be using would be from those early cars then it makes things seem way worse that they really are. If you dig deep enough you can find issues with any car so unless it happens to me I just let it ride. My own car has had zero issues and at 50K miles already I would think if they were going to happen they would have by now. I am not however going to go searching for what could go wrong.

well im assuming its a loose bracket or something after the dashboard install.

I've never owned a Subaru without a dash rattle, for what it's worth.

Actually my California car that's never heard of snow has it, but like humfrz describes it's more like discoloration than anything else.

Probably going to be a summer project to pull it off and blast it with a bunch of spray paint to give it some resilience...

As for the so-called Japanese mfg being at the top of their game, imo they've been resting on their laurels for about 15 years content to fatten profit margins and collect bonuses because nobody is really doing it better. Hope the Koreans and Tesla can make a splash soon.

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