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Spacemane969 01-24-2016 08:17 AM

Is there a science to getting your 86 to work at 6am in 2" of snow?
 
Sarcastic title. Winter plans were to spare the 86 by driving my old honda, until my old honda died half way to work yesterday. Also my journey out of the driveway began in reverse.
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roddy 01-24-2016 08:42 AM

Good winter tires...all you need. I bought some cheap 16" steel wheels, and run 205/55/16 Bridgestone Blizzaks. My drive to work is 30 or so miles on country roads and a bit of in town driving. There have been times I've been plowing through 8"-10" of snow on my way in with no issues.

MidwestFRS 01-24-2016 11:12 AM

I second that, I put Blizzaks on the stock rims and have had no issues driving through snow and ice on my 52 mile trip to work each day.

MuseChaser 01-24-2016 11:30 AM

Thirded. Get a set of 16" steelies w/ snows on'em, and you're good to go. Not to state the obvious, but just in case you're new to driving in snow or rear-wheel-drive in snow, the key when you're getting the car rolling is to not lose traction in the first place. Start very slowly, and don't let the wheels spin. If they start to spin, let off the gas immediately. All you're doing is either digging a little ditch underneath your tire or polishing the ice so it's even more slippery. Once you're rolling, gain as much speed as you can if you're trying to make it uphill or through a snowplow-induced berm at the road end of your driveway, but don't let the wheels spin.

I have a pretty steep uphill driveway, and we get a lot of snow. When I'm able to park in the garage, I LAUNCH from the garage with my wheels on the concrete floor, but back off the minute my wheels touch snow or ice. I can almost always plow my way up the driveway and usually make it through the plow berm. Sometimes I've gotta back back down into the garage and take a second run at it.

Winter driving is FUN, except when it's snowing so hard you can't see anything, and/or you're surround by folks who either DON'T know how to drive in it, or are too stupid and reckless to care about their lives and anyone elses. Alone on snowy back roads.. it's a BLAST!

No sudden moves, don't hit the brakes EVER if you enter a skid, steer in to the skid, and back off on the gas until she settles down. On the other hand, if you WANT to have some fun.. well.... you'll figure it out!

Barry

jawn 01-24-2016 11:31 AM

Fourthed. Get winter tires.

mdm 01-24-2016 11:32 AM

In case someone still did not know how to drive in snow, this is vey well written, and it contains one additional piece of advice that most people forget.


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hmong337 01-24-2016 11:56 AM

winter tires, winter tires, winter tires...

Braces 01-24-2016 12:13 PM

I'm not sure, but I see a pattern with the answers.

Apoc 01-24-2016 12:21 PM

Supercharge then get studded winter tires

elBarto 01-24-2016 12:25 PM

Adding some weight in the trunk also helps with traction.
Oh, and did somebody already mentioned that he needs winter tires?

FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-24-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacemane969 (Post 2520311)
Sarcastic title. Winter plans were to spare the 86 by driving my old honda, until my old honda died half way to work yesterday. Also my journey out of the driveway began in reverse.


Next year, or even order them now, get some blizzaks or cheap general altimax artic rts on 16 inch steel wheels for under $600. Great insurance for situations like this where your normal winter car is out of comission. As for this case, do the pedal dance, and get someone to push the car back in, also you need to dig quite a wide swath of snow out of the way its going to dance the rear end around when you gas it.

Tcoat 01-24-2016 01:10 PM

This is a great time to buy winter tires. Find a place that guessed wrong on stock (not someplace that order in as required) and you can bargain with them. The rest is pretty much as MDM attached.


This is probably the best driving in the snow advice I have ever read right here:


"Which brings me to the first thing you need to know in order to drive the hell home in the snow: You are not actually required to lose your goddamn mind just because snow is falling. It is not the apocalypse. Neither physics nor society have been cancelled by it. It is not sulfuric ash. There are no abominable snowpeople stalking through it. It will not dissolve your body if it touches you. It is frozen water. You can drive in it, you can walk in it, you can stand in it long enough to help a fellow motorist get the fuck out of your way, you can ball it up and throw it at people who treat it like it's the end of the goddamn world. It is snow."

justatroll 01-24-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2520383)
I'm not sure, but I see a pattern with the answers.

How about this instead of beating around the bush:

DO NOT DRIVE THIS CAR IN SNOW WITH THE STOCK PRIMACYS!.

I nearly totaled my car because: "it was just a quick trip, and its not THAT bad outside."

TommyC 01-24-2016 02:19 PM

I live in the Midwest, and it boggles my mind that Subaru doesn't even offer an option for all-season tires on the WRX/STi.

RichardsFRS 01-24-2016 02:20 PM

Kitty litter or cement blocks in your trunk work. We don't get a lot of snow but we did get the ass end of that storm but its all melted now. I know guys put crap like that in their trunks. I just don't drive in it, unless I'm taking a fwd car. Wife's kia handles it pretty well

Other than that, you need another daily. I recommend an old jeep

TRD-X 01-24-2016 02:29 PM

Well back in the old days all we had was RWD so it's like riding a bicycle once you learn how to drive one you never forget.

As Yoda would say "You must unlearn what you have learned" it's not a FWD car.

Tcoat 01-24-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD-X (Post 2520450)
Well back in the old days all we had was RWD so it's like riding a bicycle once you learn how to drive one you never forget.

As Yoda would say "You must unlearn what you have learned" it's not a FWD car.

Is this a good time to break out the old your grandmother and probably your great grandmother drove RWD without all the aids we have now comment?
There is no mystery nor magic about it just some minor changes to what you would do with FWD and you are done.

TRD-X 01-24-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2520465)
Is this a good time to break out the old your grandmother and probably your great grandmother drove RWD without all the aids we have now comment?
There is no mystery nor magic about it just some minor changes to what you would do with FWD and you are done.



Tcoat I miss the old cable operated clutches vs these hydraulic clutches with zero feedback.

I would love to see the young guys drive the old styled cars with zero driver aids can't you just see the new threads posted about WTF is up with this car.

ToySub1946 01-24-2016 03:55 PM

No one seems to be interested in the real issue.

What happened with the Old Honda ?

This is a forum...can we diagnose it here ? Did it get towed ?

humfrz 01-24-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2520514)
No one seems to be interested in the real issue.

What happened with the Old Honda ?

This is a forum...can we diagnose it here ? Did it get towed ?

Yes, back to a solution.

I suggest you arrange to work from home for the next day or two.

Get the Honda fixed.

Oh, yes ....... did anyone suggest snow tires for future adventures ...... ?? :D


humfrz

MuseChaser 01-24-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardsFRS (Post 2520444)
Kitty litter or cement blocks in your trunk work......

Is it better to distribute the kitty litter evenly throughout the entire trunk area, or should you pile it up high over the wheels? Is it OK to just leave it in the original bags? What if you like to take your cat on rides?

daiheadjai 01-24-2016 04:53 PM

Have heard that weight in the trunk, while useful for getting straight line traction, can make spins more vicious, and spin recovery more difficult. I've taken my sand bags out and left them home. I remember reading about some poor mustang driver who crashed with sandbags in the trunk, which became projectiles that flew into the passenger compartment and crushed the driver.

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Tcoat 01-24-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daiheadjai (Post 2520562)
Have heard that weight in the trunk, while useful for getting straight line traction, can make spins more vicious, and spin recovery more difficult. I've taken my sand bags out and left them home. I remember reading about some poor mustang driver who crashed with sandbags in the trunk, which became projectiles that flew into the passenger compartment and crushed the driver.

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THIS^
I know that this is a highly debated subject but we are not talking about 70/30 front to rear balanced pick up trucks here that really do need weight in the back. The car is already well balanced and I will sacrifice some marginal traction improvement for the ability to recover from a spin any day.

jawn 01-24-2016 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2520581)
THIS^
I know that this is a highly debated subject but we are not talking about 70/30 front to rear balanced pick up trucks here that really do need weight in the back. The car is already well balanced and I will sacrifice some marginal traction improvement for the ability to recover from a spin any day.

Yeah. I was going to comment on this. The extra traction is nice... but not having to deal with lift oversteer/snap oversteer from all that extra weight is also nice.

Tcoat 01-24-2016 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD-X (Post 2520474)
Tcoat I miss the old cable operated clutches vs these hydraulic clutches with zero feedback.

I would love to see the young guys drive the old styled cars with zero driver aids can't you just see the new threads posted about WTF is up with this car.

Non synchroed "find 'em and grind 'em" 3 or 4 speeds with a mechanical clutch would have so many baffled they would truly understand why the auto was invented.

kev60625 01-24-2016 06:13 PM

This is a very dumb question, I know. But what setting should we be driving on? Traction control off? aids all on? For snow, Thanks...

Tt3Sheppard 01-24-2016 06:17 PM

Yea snow tires man. Had no issue keeping up with the trucks yesterday trucking through inches of unplowed snow. 2hr 50 mile drive :(

Tcoat 01-24-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kev60625 (Post 2520608)
This is a very dumb question, I know. But what setting should we be driving on? Traction control off? aids all on? For snow, Thanks...

No real answer for that. It depends on the road conditions and can vary a pile. I leave the traction on unless in deep snow and then turn it off.
The real trick is controlling your acceleration and keeping everything smooth. It is the sudden movements be that accelerating, braking or turning in ice and snow that get you into trouble. Do everything in a smooth and fluid manner and the nannies really shouldn't matter if on or off.

FR-Sky 01-24-2016 06:22 PM

1st gear,,7000rpm

FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-24-2016 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2520581)
THIS^
I know that this is a highly debated subject but we are not talking about 70/30 front to rear balanced pick up trucks here that really do need weight in the back. The car is already well balanced and I will sacrifice some marginal traction improvement for the ability to recover from a spin any day.


I feel like I would only use sandbags, and then resort to cutting them open to use the sand for more grip if I were to get bogged down or stuck

kev60625 01-24-2016 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2520613)
No real answer for that. It depends on the road conditions and can vary a pile. I leave the traction on unless in deep snow and then turn it off.
The real trick is controlling your acceleration and keeping everything smooth. It is the sudden movements be that accelerating, braking or turning in ice and snow that get you into trouble. Do everything in a smooth and fluid manner and the nannies really shouldn't matter if on or off.


Good to know. I thought it was an easy answer, that I did not know. Thanks

Tcoat 01-24-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2520618)
1st gear,,7000rpm

LOL You would not get far.

Tcoat 01-24-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2520628)
I feel like I would only use sandbags, and then resort to cutting them open to use the sand for more grip if I were to get bogged down or stuck

I do carry a small bag of kitty litter for that very purpose. Also a set of traction mats and a small folding shovel. Also since I spend so much time on the highway I made a kit with some cereal, energy bars, tea candles, battery flashlight with a radio in it, a blanket and battery pack charger for my phone. Never needed it but just in case.

bluer 01-25-2016 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2520651)
energy bars, tea candles, battery flashlight with a radio in it, a blanket

Sounds like the ingredients for a road date. Nothing more romantic than tea candles in a car that's stuck off the side of the road in a ditch pointing down.

No one else said it, so I will: Snow tires OP, snow tires.

Tcoat 01-25-2016 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluer (Post 2521031)
Sounds like the ingredients for a road date. Nothing more romantic than tea candles in a car that's stuck off the side of the road in a ditch pointing down.

No one else said it, so I will: Snow tires OP, snow tires.

I will take the candles in my down pointing car over freezing to death in it any day.
Couple of years ago 800 people got stuck on a highway for 2 days due to a storm. Nobody died but those that were prepared had a much better time of it than those that were not.


http://americanpreppersnetwork.com/2...ituations.html

Hotrodheart 01-25-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2520407)
This is a great time to buy winter tires. Find a place that guessed wrong on stock (not someplace that order in as required) and you can bargain with them. The rest is pretty much as MDM attached.


This is probably the best driving in the snow advice I have ever read right here:


"Which brings me to the first thing you need to know in order to drive the hell home in the snow: You are not actually required to lose your goddamn mind just because snow is falling. It is not the apocalypse. Neither physics nor society have been cancelled by it. It is not sulfuric ash. There are no abominable snowpeople stalking through it. It will not dissolve your body if it touches you. It is frozen water. You can drive in it, you can walk in it, you can stand in it long enough to help a fellow motorist get the fuck out of your way, you can ball it up and throw it at people who treat it like it's the end of the goddamn world. It is snow."

Take it from @Tcoat he's from Canada, and the place is MADE of snow.

Tcoat 01-25-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodheart (Post 2521071)
Take it from @Tcoat he's from Canada, and the place is MADE of snow.

Well not so much this year. At least around here. I can still see grass and it is supposed to be above freezing for the next few days so may soon have nothing on the ground again. Bet we have had a total of 6 inches all year. Normally by now we have a total of about 6 feet.

daiheadjai 01-25-2016 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2521075)
Well not so much this year. At least around here. I can still see grass and it is supposed to be above freezing for the next few days so may soon have nothing on the ground again. Bet we have had a total of 6 inches all year. Normally by now we have a total of about 6 feet.

I know! I was expecting to be drifting everywhere and having endless snowy parking lots to play in. Somewhat disappointed...

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Tcoat 01-25-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daiheadjai (Post 2521137)
I know! I was expecting to be drifting everywhere and having endless snowy parking lots to play in. Somewhat disappointed...

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I wanted to get video of me snowplowing 14" of untouched powder but so far it hasn't even come up to my bumper in one fall.
Supposed to rain today and tomorrow. Rain. In freakin' January

Hotrodheart 01-25-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2521075)
Well not so much this year. At least around here. I can still see grass and it is supposed to be above freezing for the next few days so may soon have nothing on the ground again. Bet we have had a total of 6 inches all year. Normally by now we have a total of about 6 feet.

"Join the Canadian Army Reserve, eh?"


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