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hypebrz 03-08-2016 03:40 PM

Stoptech Brake Upgrade kit
 
Hey guys! So my first week owning my new BRZ, I got in an accident with a driver who turned in front of me as I was going through an intersection with a green light. It was completely her fault, so there wasn't much I can do. However, I can't help but feel that if I had better brakes, I would've been able to stop in time. I found stoptechs upgrade kit on ft86speedfactory and have been considering it. I use my car as a DD, and have no plans to ever track it, but I do plan to do some spirited driving. Will this suit my needs? I know nothing about brakes honestly and can't afford a big brake kit and I feel that will be overkill for my needs anyway.

Here is the link for reference. http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/stop...l#.Vt83cPkrKUk

Cockatoo 03-08-2016 03:51 PM

better tires will help more in braking

jasonojordan 03-08-2016 03:51 PM

Before doing that why not just upgrade your pads and rotors. That is much cheaper and get quite a bit extra stopping power out of it. I like my frozen Stoptec slotted rotors and hawk hp+ pads. But no matter how much stopping power you have you can only stop as fast as the tires you have on the car. That and not all accidents are avoidable. Hence why they are called accidents.

Cockatoo 03-08-2016 03:54 PM

Also, maybe try slowing down a bit... or maybe you just need some more seat time, sounds like you are younger

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Originally Posted by hypebrz (Post 2573488)
I don't ever street race, but I speed everywhere I go. Even to work or to the store, and zipping through heavy traffic. It's a thrill, especially in a twin. I've never hit a thing because of what other people would call my "reckless" driving. I know my cars limits, I know my limits, and believe it or not, I'm really cautious and safe regardless of what my speedometer says lol. I'd say it's "Wreckless driving" lol a mix of reckless driving but still cautious enough to not be stupid


hypebrz 03-08-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2573559)
better tires will help more in braking

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2573562)
Before doing that why not just upgrade your pads and rotors. That is much cheaper and get quite a bit extra stopping power out of it. I like my frozen Stoptec slotted rotors and hawk hp+ pads. But no matter how much stopping power you have you can only stop as fast as the tires you have on the car. That and not all accidents are avoidable. Hence why they are called accidents.

Any recommendations for good DD and weekend fun tires? I live in Texas so there is never snow, or harsh conditions. Hardly ever rains here either. I just want tires that grip well and low road noise

hypebrz 03-08-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2573568)
Also, maybe try slowing down a bit... or maybe you just need some more seat time, sounds like you are younger

Yessir, I am 19. However this ONE time I wasn't speeding at all lol

jasonojordan 03-08-2016 03:57 PM

I have Continental DW. Have worked great both on my wrx and now my brz. They have a pretty stiff sidewall so ride comfort does suffer a bit but it takes quite a bit to push these tires over the edge.

Racecomp Engineering 03-08-2016 04:29 PM

The main goal of big brake kits is to increase thermal capacity and efficiency, meaning make them last longer before they overheat.

The kit you mentioned is more of an OEM replacement (and a decent one at that). Really a minimal change in performance, slight improvement in feel.

As others have mentioned...to really improve stopping distances you need to switch to a stickier tire.

- Andrew

hypebrz 03-08-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 2573605)
The main goal of big brake kits is to increase thermal capacity and efficiency, meaning make them last longer before they overheat.

The kit you mentioned is more of an OEM replacement (and a decent one at that). Really a minimal change in performance, slight improvement in feel.

As others have mentioned...to really improve stopping distances you need to switch to a stickier tire.

- Andrew

Would this kit and stickier tires make much of a difference over OEM brakes and just upgrading tires?

fluffy-reindeer-slayer 03-08-2016 04:41 PM

bf goodrich sport comp 2 work well here in sa weather ive had a lot of diffrent tires and these for the price cant be beat, if your running 17 inch rims espino on san pedro can hook you up for around 600 installed. and they usually have the tires within a day. also be mindful of stupid people driving, especially around the 151 area.haha

hypebrz 03-08-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffy-reindeer-slayer (Post 2573621)
bf goodrich sport comp 2 work well here in sa weather ive had a lot of diffrent tires and these for the price cant be beat, if your running 17 inch rims espino on san pedro can hook you up for around 600 installed. and they usually have the tires within a day. also be mindful of stupid people driving, especially around the 151 area.haha

151, 1604, and 410 haha, so much construction around the city is getting drivers heated :paddle:

Racecomp Engineering 03-08-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hypebrz (Post 2573617)
Would this kit and stickier tires make much of a difference over OEM brakes and just upgrading tires?

Not much if any. The pads are slightly better than stock but shouldn't have much of a difference in stopping distance.

- Andrew

PandaSPUR 03-08-2016 05:25 PM

+1 on getting upgraded tires. Even the stock brakes will overwhelm the stock tires, I had it happen to me a few times.

ryoma 03-08-2016 07:34 PM

do you remember if you locked up your brakes? if you can lock up your brakes, then your current brakes are fine. you just need stickier summer tires. go on tirerack and see what your options are under extreme summer performance. no matter how good your brakes or tires are though, they will not prevent every single accident on the road. most of it is to do with your driving style and always be paying attention. if you saw the other car inching forward, you should have already been off the gas and floating your foot over the brakes or checking your mirrors to make sure you have room to change lanes.

considering you are on the fence about a BBK, just get slightly more track-oriented brake pads and a fluid swap for now. maybe SS brake lines if you want, but it's not really required. see how you like that set up with stickier tires before spending 1k+ for a BBK. I am running Winmax W5 pads, SS lines, and Torque RT700 fluid on stock rotors and the braking is extremely good. at the end of the straight running CCW on SoW, braking for that tight 180 turn almost rips off my face lol

good thing you are safe though.

EDIT: looked at your link and you will probably get better performance for your buck if you piece your parts together yourself. you don't really need new rotors unless yours are almost gone


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