all yall suck

This thread is a year old. Why bump it? lol

When I bought mine these cars had not been overly riced yet.


These cars can't be the new civic, they don't hold their value like one.


But seeing these threads like the guy who plasti dipped entire car matte black and the other with the ricer wing and teal badges and splash guards sure as hell don't help this platform get away from the ricer stigma.

It has been fun to watch the evolution of what defines "rice" over the last 4 decades.
To us pony/muscle car owners back in the mid 70s to early 80s any and all Japanese cars (from a 240z up to the most basic 4 door sedan) were "rice burners" or "ricers". It didn't matter if they were fast, slow, modded, stock or anything else. If they were built in Japan they were rice.
Into the 80s and early 90s when the Japanese cars became more popular and common people started trying to make base model US cars look, sound and be more like the Japanese ones. Cars like the Tempo and Neon would get the Japanese car treatment and these pretenders took over the name of "ricers" and not many actual Japanese models were called that anymore regardless of what had been done to them.
Then the Fast and Furious movie came out. What had been a relatively small regional hobby of going to extremes with mods exploded around the world and shot these heavily modded Japanese cars to the forefront. This resulted in the name of "ricer" returning to the Japanese cars that had been extensively changed.
Now just a few years later the general preference has swung back to more subdued mods so even something as small as some stickers can be considered "rice" by certain groups of people.
There is a very obvious trend for anybody that doesn't like some very minor point about a car to cry "rice" even though they have done things to their own car that puts them squarely in the middle of that category.


http://image.cdn.ispot.tv/brand/IkS/history-channel.jpg

THAT explains it all.

I'm 32. Before those stupid films came out, there were nice cars and ugly cars as far as myself or any of my friends were aware. Those idiotic films inspired a whole culture pretty much overnight, and people with modified Japanese cars were suddenly judged immature and insecure. There was a stigma to be avoided. We obviously "hadn't got enough attention as a child".

I hate those films. :(

AND, probably indirectly responsible for the deaths of more than a few teenagers, as well as the slow lingering deaths of many more poor cars.

You got it! I am sure many younger guys will argue the point but the reality is that prior to those movies the import car crowd was a very different demographic.

I like rice. We should hang out. Get a bowl of some rice and teriyaki plus a few beers.

LOL - they were mostly Asian back in the 90's. my buddies were into Initial D, and i liked Wangan Midnight since i had owned a '78 280Z since 1985. The other ethnic groups seemed to be more into muscle cars and low riders - less so the imports.

After F&F came out, every kid with a backwards baseball cap was a street racer.

Everything was fine until the fast and furious nation attacked

LMAO at that acronym.

But lets just say that your acronym is correct and when people called something "rice" for the first time they had that acronym in mind.

Are you saying that a car with 1000hp can't have "Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements"?

In 1970 we called these rice and there was nothing race inspired about them!

http://www.carpictures2015.com/wp-co...0CVCC-pJrO.jpg

To state my position: I don't consider wheels and tires and a cat-back to be"Riced". You may or may not according to your definition.

That said, Keep in mind that for every one that is Riced out, there are 50 that are left stock. (Yes I did make that ratio up, but think if accurate)

So, if you think you are seeing a lot of rice running around look at the bright side, that means that there are a lot of buyers out there and the car will be around for a while.

As to diminishing the value of "Your Investment" keep in mind that cars are never an investment.

The insurance question will continue to be an age and experience related ratio as it has always been. I don't think that the number of accidents or the rice image is going to impact this.Theft being one of the few reasons why insurance companies ever bump up the rates for a particular vehicle after it is introduced.

So relax, I get that rice is not your thing nor is it mine, but do take a bit of time and appreciate some of the rice mods that show skill and talent from the owner. It is there. And damn, they seem to get the hot chicks at the show eh?:drool:

The op has been banned for a while now, no need to try to get your point across to him.

Yeah I have always compared the FRS/BRZ not to the civic of yesterday but more to the Integras.

SHHHHHHH I love watching people give crap to members that have been gone for years. It is a hobby for me now and I can't wait for the next thread resurrection to see it happen all over again.

I had one of those! (well except it was the 5 door "wagon" and was green/Tan like the one below)

Mine was "riced up" a bit. Unlike the one below it had a chrome grill guard upside down "U" on the front that fit between the two lights, and it had meatier tires on the back jacking it up in the back. It was that way when I bought it used and I just went with it since the wheels were custom Crager knock-offs.

That was the first car I bought that cost me more than $1,000. If I could find one that looked as good as the one in this Pic, I'd probably buy it.


http://hondaclassiccars.weebly.com/u...5_orig.jpg?448

+1... I'm still waiting on a CJ resurrection.

We have so many members to make up for him though! Like Squad and BugZ...

I missed most of that by just a few weeks but highly doubt there are many of his threads left to resurrect.

I had one like the pic I posted but in beige and it was 8 years old. The exhaust manifold had a hole rotted through it, I am pretty sure that at least one cylinder only fired on alternate weeks, the accelerator would stick wide open on occasion, no heater (I mean removed) and the tires would go flat for no apparent reason.
You couldn't pay me to take another.

many do.

Ah. So you're just posting to get that post count up.

Keep up the good work.

pot calls the kettle what now?

there are plenty of 1000hp showcars with useless mods, simply for the "ooooh shiny" factor. sadly, these cosmetic mods are there to win points with the judges, not actually improve performance.

Post count war?
You are both amateurs!

They're not as good:/

Interesting, sounds like the previous owner beat it pretty hard.

I bought mine with 40,000 miles on it, looked brand new except the paint was spider-webbing. Honda repainted it under warranty. I got rid of it at about 190,000 miles and it still looked new except it had started burning about a quart of oil between oil changes, and there was a burn in the carpet in the back where the exhaust had rusted through and heated up the floor enough to melt the carpet before I replaced it.

Oh they did, they did! Those cars didn't like salt much either.
Mind you I paid $50 for it and drove it about 2 months so shouldn't really complain.

Agh, OK, that would definitely explain it! I lived in Richmond, VA at the time so it saw very limited salt. They definitely would rust out quickly if you even spilt a salt packet in them.

Then tell me EXACTLY what the point of your post quoting my post with that stupid acronym?

"Pot calls the kettle what now?"

WTF are you talking about? WTF are you talking to?
Do you even know what you typed is supposed to mean?

I know how that is I've got a 77 celica trying to find parts for that is a nightmare

*cough* ND

If parts from a 92 would fit, I know someone who has a 92 GTS they're trying to get rid of. It's in Sandy.

I've said this multiple times.. but this platform is the Honda world from the late 90s/early 2000s. Same exact culture, opinions, builds, etc.


Which makes it really funny when I see Honda bashing on here.

Not so sure that it is "Honda" bashing so much as "what people did to some of the poor Hondas" bashing. There is no denying that the Civic was/is not the only car to get the treatment since Neons, Cavaliers, Sunfires, (shit just about any small sporty looking car you can name) have also been riced to death but the Civic became the poster child a long time ago.
Not hard to figure out why since used ones are cheap, reliable and easy to find so make the perfect platform for young, creative artists with a limited budget.
No doubt at all that the 86 will suffer the same fate as used ones get cheaper and cheaper. The only thing that may save it a bit is that there are way fewer of them so perhaps more will go to track instead of purely cosmetic "race car" mods. I don't hold out much hope though.

Expensive cars suffer the exact same fate, only their tasteless mods have a higher price tag.

Civics became the icon of rice when F&F came out. I knew a kid whose goal it was to get his Civic low enough to do the "drive under the 18 wheeler" stunt from the movie. He would never try it; he just wanted his car that low. It turns out that the 18 wheeler from the movie was lifted slightly, so he wasn't able to meet his goal.

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Wait. You mean the movies aren't real?

I wasn't talking about this thread. Look in OT and other threads and you'll see thousands of Honda bashing comments throughout the past few years (general comments not pointed towards a pic that was posted, etc).

AHHHHH I misunderstood! Ya, also bashing for just about every car ever made though. Even the Miata and S2000 get their turn at being bashed here even if not quite as often as some.
And geez just try to show support for any FWD AT car and watch the fun roll out.