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SCIONMONTREAL 04-24-2012 09:44 AM
the bottom line with the M3 is that although it is an excellent car, you'd better know a bit of car maintenance because if something goes wrong Gunther the german mechanic will gladly take your money.

I have a friend here who is excellent with stuff like that, bought an e36 M3 and swapped everything into a 318ti. the 318 is light and the m3 engine as well as reinforced bits the car required turned it into a dream.

BUT you'd better know CARS

BMWDavid 04-24-2012 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by prophecy0 (Post 190062)
I stopped by the VW dealership today to test drive the GTI. I've wanted a GTI for years (until I found out about the BRZ), so I figured I might as well test one out just to be sure.

Unfortunately, I LOVED the GTI. The fit and finish was top notch (amazing interior), and it didn't feel at all lacking for power. I'm trying to get the VW dealership to come down on the price of a fully-equipped 4DR with a DSG transmission. If the dealer can get within 1k or so of the Limited BRZ automatic, I may very well go with the GTI. Yeah, it's FWD and a hatch, but my wife and I may be having kids in the next few years so it's the "smart" choice.

I just wish there was a BRZ close by for me to test drive. Maybe it would dissuade me from the GTI.
I have had my '06 MKV GTI/DSG since new. Approaching 90,000 miles with only a bad rear wheel bearing. Otherwise the most reliable and trouble free car I've had. The torque from that 2.0 Turbo is still amazing. I love the smooth quick shifts from the DSG trans and the braaap from the exhaust on upshifts is really neat.

Going to keep my GTI and when the BRZ gets here it will have a pretty high bar to meet in terms of build quality. I'm hoping the BRZ is a kick in the pants to drive and from all indications should be.

I'm looking for my BRZ to be a modern take of my '89 Porsche 911.

prophecy0 04-24-2012 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWDavid (Post 190263)
I have had my '06 MKV GTI/DSG since new. Approaching 90,000 miles with only a bad rear wheel bearing. Otherwise the most reliable and trouble free car I've had. The torque from that 2.0 Turbo is still amazing. I love the smooth quick shifts from the DSG trans and the braaap from the exhaust on upshifts is really neat.

Going to keep my GTI and when the BRZ gets here it will have a pretty high bar to meet in terms of build quality. I'm hoping the BRZ is a kick in the pants to drive and from all indications should be.

I'm looking for my BRZ to be a modern take of my '89 Porsche 911.
That's all good to hear. Whether true or not, VW cars still have the stigma of being unreliable.

Turbowned 04-24-2012 12:09 PM
Hmm, it's my day off. I think I should go drive a C5 Corvette Z06, Mustang V6, Gen Coupe 2.0T, Cadillac CTS-V and Honda S2000 just to make sure I've tested everything else I could possibly want for <$30k. :thumbup:

CoryUyede 04-24-2012 12:20 PM
Lol...have fun!

ichitaka05 04-24-2012 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 190354)
Hmm, it's my day off. I think I should go drive a C5 Corvette Z06, Mustang V6, Gen Coupe 2.0T, Cadillac CTS-V and Honda S2000 just to make sure I've tested everything else I could possibly want for <$30k. :thumbup:
Good idea. I did. I've drove, S2k, 350Z, Miata, GC, Mustang, Camaro, G35, WRX, & Cvic

andcas7 04-25-2012 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf (Post 189887)
Sweet, so you bought the only car slower than the FRS/BRZ for 40g's :thumbup:
Because everyone buying the FRS/BRZ is buying it for it's "Speed"... Last I checked most people love the fact the car is a great "performance" car for it's low price. So basically, you get what you pay for, fun to drive, without the bells and whistles.

I was in the market for the FR-S because it would be my daily driver, not for "racing", if that's why you are buying this car then I would go for something "fast", unless you've got the extra G's to make it fast. I personally love driving the IS with the F-sport suspension, big difference from the non F-sport suspension. It also has an amazing sound system.

Later down the road I would consider the FR-S again, to actually make it a track car, and keep the IS as my DD.

As someone said, I'm not here to compare the cars, basically say why I gave in for another car, the "fun" of driving the FR-S would just not be enough to make up for the other things I enjoy when I have a 1 to 2 hour drive going to work and back home, 3-4 hours driving each day. I also do drive with friends in the back, I hate to have them too cramped up so the FR-S would've done just that.

f0rge 04-25-2012 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzpeed (Post 190186)
If u've never driven a M3 before and drive one now. I'm pretty sure the 86 or BRZ will not impress you one bit.
This is my concern, i have a 2004 M3 with some suspension work and it's getting a bit old so i'm thinking it may be time for something new, but i'm concerned after driving my car to the dealership i'm going to be seriously underwhelmed by the FR-S, not because it's a bad car, but it's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

While i've been waiting i've been looking at FD RX7's, same weight (2800lbs) but with much more power stock and even more with simple bolt ons. But that car is even older than my M3...

Anyway i guess i'll just have to wait and see how the test drive goes.

Lonewolf 04-25-2012 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by andcas7 (Post 191201)
Because everyone buying the FRS/BRZ is buying it for it's "Speed"... Last I checked most people love the fact the car is a great "performance" car for it's low price. So basically, you get what you pay for, fun to drive, without the bells and whistles.

I was in the market for the FR-S because it would be my daily driver, not for "racing", if that's why you are buying this car then I would go for something "fast", unless you've got the extra G's to make it fast. I personally love driving the IS with the F-sport suspension, big difference from the non F-sport suspension. It also has an amazing sound system.

Later down the road I would consider the FR-S again, to actually make it a track car, and keep the IS as my DD.

As someone said, I'm not here to compare the cars, basically say why I gave in for another car, the "fun" of driving the FR-S would just not be enough to make up for the other things I enjoy when I have a 1 to 2 hour drive going to work and back home, 3-4 hours driving each day. I also do drive with friends in the back, I hate to have them too cramped up so the FR-S would've done just that.
...I guess sarcasm detectors don't come standard on ultra noobs these days, do they?

oneday 04-25-2012 04:30 PM
I have been a fan of the FR-S since it was first announced back in (08?), but I did just buy a 99 M3. As I said in my thread it really came down to the fact that if I buy the FR-S I will not only be spending two years worth of my motorsports budget on the car, but I will be too worried about wadding the car up on track--and when you worry or are scared, you make mistakes...I still haven't cancelled my FR-S order or gotten my deposit back yet...so there is still small chance of getting that too (if I sell my tC before the FR-S comes in).

I originally wanted to pick up a late-80s E30 (like a 325is) but for not much more money I got a better chassis, suspension, and motor in a sleeker package.

I am picking the car up in Atlanta on Friday, going to The Mitty on Saturday, then driving back to PA to start prepping it for track duty.

qbsacker93 05-01-2012 06:21 AM
Hey new here. I have been waiting patiently for the Scion FRS, however, a fantastic deal just fell into my lap. A 2012 Ford Mustang GT, brand new(25 miles), black, for 25,400! I really am not sure that I can pass up such a crazy good deal. My insurance quote was only 680 every 6 months. Any advice would be appreciated!

alan.chalkley 05-01-2012 07:38 AM
Yes!
I bought a 99 VVTLi 6spd manual celica. Metallic blue with black and blue trim in immaculate condition.It is a lot of fun to drive and I could buy 5 of these for the price of 1 ft86/BRZ.
I wonder what an ft86/BRZ will be worth in 14yrs.
Wether it be a dud or a classic , it will still be "fun to drive".

Guff 05-01-2012 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by qbsacker93 (Post 196724)
Hey new here. I have been waiting patiently for the Scion FRS, however, a fantastic deal just fell into my lap. A 2012 Ford Mustang GT, brand new(25 miles), black, for 25,400! I really am not sure that I can pass up such a crazy good deal. My insurance quote was only 680 every 6 months. Any advice would be appreciated!
It may be a good deal, but that doesn't change the fact that most people will enjoy the FRS more. Money is important though, so it's your call. Just know what you're passing up though, the Zx6 isn't an ordinary sports car...

SUB-FT86 05-01-2012 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 189751)
For everyone that looking at GC. I can tell you this. If you want raw power, go for GC, cuz GC have hp that you might like (over 300hp). Other than that, GC isn't worth the money. I've driven both FR-S & GC (V6), I'll take FR-S any days of the week.
The GC isn't only about power. I love how everybody calls it a muscle car/pony car yet when I drove a 3.8 Track it felt like the 06 G35S coupe I drove which also left a big smile on my face during the test drive. Now I don't know about the 2013 models.


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