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Sonolin 04-19-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight23 (Post 878236)
It's growing in NorCal and SoCal decently, and they just opened a station in fresno, I wouldn't suggest a trip to vegas on it though. but LA <> SF is possible now on it.

That's news to me! I'll have to look into this - I have a road trip to northern california this year and I'd love to be able to run e85 the whole way!

King Tut 04-19-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse@JDLAutodesign (Post 878127)
You can't load the car on a dynojet...you can on the street. Dynapacks, mustangs, dyno dynamics, maha dyno can all simulate various load points. There may be an option for load control on new model dynojets but all the ones we have in the PHX area are older models and dont' have load control.

Dynojet has been doing load control for quite a few years. You could state that while all Mustang, Dynapack, and Muststang dynos have load control as standard, it is optional on the Dynojet.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-19-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 878304)
Dynojet has been doing load control for quite a few years. You could state that while all Mustang, Dynapack, and Muststang dynos have load control as standard, it is optional on the Dynojet.

Thats why i mentioned the ones we have around here are all older non load control ones. We have a dynapack across the parking lot so thats what i'm most familiar with. :)

mad_sb 04-19-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 878062)
I LOVE it when people automatically proclaim any given dyno a "heartbreaker", especially when they have never run a vehicle on it simply on the word of the parts manufacturer saying their dyno is even lower than all other mustang dynos, or Dynojets.. or whatever. If I were a manufacturer I would want people to assume that my dyno ran low too.

The older dynodynamics software (that spits out plot like those in this thread) are very accurate when you use a 1.0 correction factor, so accurate that they are often proclaimed to be heartbreaker dynos because in that mode they read about 12 - 15% lower than dynojet and lower than most mustangs... That said.. they are also the easiest to inflate.. pick up the keyborad, hit the x key, enter desired correction factor, do another run :). To combat this, dyno dynamics offers shoot out mode, which is a standardized mode that is not user correctable and prints out all the correction data on the plot. It produces numbers that are VERY close to crank HP numbers though.

@skatery1989
Amazing numbers man, im sure it pulls like a freight train. Still not sure what the issue was with your orginal tune when you dynoed it, it was either pulling timing or had not learned the timing advance. Regardless, looks very happy now on the corn juice, new compressor and pulley :happy0180: . Have you talked to vortech or perrin about running a wastegate to get more boost earlier in the rpm range?

No Limit Motorsport 04-19-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SnapOv3st3r (Post 877646)
Dyno Dynamics are called Heart Breaker dyno's for a reason. They are the only ones I use to get my numbers with. Mustang Dyno is low reading also.

This car would break 400whp easy on a dynojet, and probably 430whp on a Dynopack.

This is true only if the runs were done in Dyno Dynamic's shootout mode which locks the user from changing any settings or playing any games. If the dyno runs were done in Shootout mode it would say it on the chart. Shootout mode reads very low in comparison to say Dynojet, probably lower than a Mustang by a bit.

That being said since the dyno was not done in shootout more there is a correction factor that can be adjusted by the dyno operator. We find most Dyno Dynamics run with a .15 correct faction which makes them read similar to a Dynojet. However without knowing what correction factor was used for this it is tough to compare this to other dyno's numbers as it could be high or low. We had this same style Dyno Dynamics dyno for many years here.

OP skatery1989 Awesome I bet the car flys! No matter what factors are in use, I have no doubt this car makes good power. However I would love for you to ask the dyno operator what correction factor they use, or even better if you could go back and do some pulls in "shootout mode" to get a solid baseline to judge your cars power against.

Great job,
Adam

SnapOv3st3r 04-19-2013 07:55 PM

^That's my whole point. Trying to compare dynos from 3 different cars on 3 different dynos is pointless.

liteyouup 04-19-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 877260)
Yeah, 365 at altitude is amazing...even more powwuhhhh at sea level.

Ususally numbers are corrected.... so it would make same numbers but would actually be a shit ton faster at sea level. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

charged86 04-19-2013 08:20 PM

I knew this was capable with the vortech kit ( I had hoped). Will have the same setup. Sadly skatery beat me. But I'm am very happy for him and extremely excited to get mine done. Maybe I will have the same results at @Dustin@Dynosty also I will be near sea level

cmss2000 04-19-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 878609)
I knew this was capable with the vortech kit ( I had hoped). Will have the same setup. Sadly skatery beat me. But I'm am very happy for him and extremely excited to get mine done. Maybe I will have the same results at dynosty. Com also I will be near sea level

Hurry up! :)

charged86 04-19-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmss2000 (Post 878704)
Hurry up! :)

As soon as @Dustin@Dynosty is available can afford to tune 93 pump injectors 12.5 psi and supporting mods. I need moneyyyyyyy. And good job skatery. Did he provide full mod list?

Dustin@Dynosty 04-19-2013 09:43 PM

Great numbers! Looking forward to getting charged86's car on the dyno

charged86 04-19-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Dynosty (Post 878770)
Great numbers! Looking forward to getting charged86's car on the dyno

Any day after may 1

OrbitalEllipses 04-19-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coheed (Post 877517)
The majority of us will take perception over reality any day. Perception is more fun anyway. :respekt:

The truth of the matter is that perception IS reality.

charged86 04-19-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 877775)
What is this cars character? :) I would love to know.

honey badger on corn alcohol


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